Creationist Evangelist in Vermont

WE RECENTLY reported about an Evolution Evangelist in Tennessee who had been traveling around with his wife for six years, living out of their van, and lecturing at various churches. It’s only fair that we balance things out with this article appearing in Vermont’s Bennington Banner: Creationist brings road show to local church.

Your Curmudgeon would like to give you some excerpts from the article, but that paper is owned by Media News Group, and they’re suing bloggers who excerpt their stories without permission. So you’ll have to click over there to read it for yourself.

Basically it’s about a hard-core creationist, Steve Grohman, who travels around with his wife, Dana, and their son, Paul. He spends full-time giving creation seminars. This has been going on for years.

He complains that scientists keep revising their estimates of the age of the universe. He also says that there was an additional layer of water above the atmosphere, and — get this! — that accounts for the long lifespans early in the Bible before the flood.

That’s just a sample. The article is full of insights like that. Isn’t creationism grand?

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5 responses to “Creationist Evangelist in Vermont

  1. longshadow

    Footnote: the credulous article you are quoting from was written by the newspaper’s “religion editor.”

    It would have been nice, for the sake of balance and accuracy, if they had sent a science reporter as well…

    As for Grohman’s rantings about the age of the Universe being all over the place and science not having a clue, the reality is that currently, multiple independent lines of objective scientific evidence support an age of the universe of about 13 billion years. What Grohman manages to misrepresent as being some sort of helter-skelter “pick a number out of your ass” game, is the convergence, over several decades, of scientific consensus on a specific, increasingly accurate value for the age of the universe.

    It’s Grohman who’s talking out of his ass — even the Sensuous Curmudgeon has managed to show the evidence from SNa1987 alone conclusively refutes an age of the universe less than 160,000 years, which makes the YEC claims of a 6000-10,000 year old Universe utterly preposterous.

    At least the Banner’s headline writers got it right when they characterized Mr. Grohman’s performance as a “road show.”

  2. Yes, “even the Sensuous Curmudgeon has managed to show” that the universe is at least 160K years old. We bask in your praise.

  3. longshadow

    Well, when I give you an opening to reference your own work, I expect you to have the good sense to link it:

    http://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2008/07/20/how-old-is-the-creationists-universe/

  4. Okay, you have forced us to overcome our traditional modesty. It’s here: How Old Is The Creationists’ Universe?

  5. Well, there we go again.

    First it was 10, then 12, followed by 15, 18 and 20 BILLION years old, now you claim it is more than 160,000 years old, which means it could be anywhere from 160,000 years old to 20,000,000 years old. Obviously you have NO idea.

    Hurumph.