Evolution: The Biggest Lie Ever Told!

It’s difficult to believe that a human brain could produce something like what we’re about to present, dear reader, but … well, let’s look on the bright side: A species with as much intellectual diversity as this item reveals must possess abundant raw material for future evolution. Therefore, what you’re about to read is actually good news — it shows that as a species we have the potential for lots of adaptation. Although whether we’re going anywhere other than extinction remains to be seen.

What we found is at a website called Christian Post, which describes itself as “the nation’s most comprehensive Christian news website and was launched in March 2004, incorporated with the vision of delivering up-to-date news, information, and commentaries relevant to Christians across denominational lines.” The article we’re talking about is Evolution: Real Science -or- the BIGGEST LIE ever told? It’s written by someone calling himself Trey Smith. The Wikipedia article about him says:

Trey Smith, originally Brian “Trey” Smith, is an ex-safe robber, author, documentary producer, and founder of the God in a Nutshell Project. Trey Smith is best known for his role in the 1999 safe robbery of prominent television evangelist, Mike Murdock …

Interesting guy. Here are some excerpts from his article, with bold font added by us:

Evolution: Is it REAL Science -or- Modern Mythology? None could argue, in-light of science as it develops…. the probabilty [sic] of Darwin’s evolution being true grows grimmer and grimmer with every passing discovery and increase in human knowledge.

“None could argue”? BWAHAHAHAHAHA! This is going to be good. Let’s read on:

To many spectrums of science, the failure of the 1859 theory does not come as a surprise.

Spectrums of science? We love this guy! He continues:

Of sciences damaging to evolution, increased understanding of DNA — the 3 dimensional digital programming code for life — may be nearer the top of evolution’s progressively growing long list of 180 degree violations of science laws. It is hard for many to understand how coordinated precision programming 100s of thousands of times more sophisticated than ALL the computer software on Earth (with ZERO junk code) happens “accidentally.”

Persuaded yet? No? You will be. He mentions a video that is available with his article, which we haven’t looked at, and then he says:

The Theory of Evolution is often promoted by late night comics, such as Bill Maher, and atheist spokespeople such as, Richard Dawkins.

Comics and atheists. How depressing. Here’s more:

Evolution (Evolution-ism) — definitions — Evolutionism and/or its spin-offs such as “Atheism” are the religious beliefs that nearly all observable sciences, modern knowledge, science laws, as well as all ancient records are a product of grand conspiracy.

A grand conspiracy! Moving along, we find the inevitable Hitler connection:

Evolution (Evolution-ism) — historically — Evolution (as proposed by Darwin) was first used (in a large scale application) as a political tool under Adolph Hitler in Nazi Germany’s infamous Eugenics programs. As per Nazi policy, many, many races — initially starting with the Jews — were politically defined inferior under Evolutionary Eugenics. These programs not only allowed for the extermination of “inferior genetic stock”, but also made provision for human experimentation.

Great stuff, huh? If you’re new to this, we discussed it in one of our earliest posts: Hitler and Darwin. Here’s another excerpt from Trey Smith’s brilliant essay:

Evolution / Evolutionism as a cultural movement is a facet of the modern Atheism / Atheistic belief / religious structures — it is largely based on those who are “vigorous fans” so-to-speak of the theories, writings, and speculations of Charles Darwin. Though Darwin’s conjectures and thoughts were violations of known science laws even in his own day — such as Entropy in Thermodynamics …

Ah yes, entropy. Then he mines some quotes from Darwin. We love it when creationists quote Darwin as evidence against Darwin’s theory. We’ll skip that stuff so you can click over there to read it for yourself. Okay — we can’t resist giving you one of them:

“I am quite conscious that my speculations (evolution) run beyond the bounds of true science …. It is a mere rag of an hypothesis with as many flaws & holes as sound parts.” Charles Darwin

That was debunked in the TalkOrigins Quote Mine Project. We discussed the same bogus quote here: Creationist Wisdom — Example 63.

Okay, dear reader — we’re done. Now go, re-think your wretched life and all the nonsense you’ve foolishly accepted. It’s not too late to change your evil ways.

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33 responses to “Evolution: The Biggest Lie Ever Told!

  1. >”The Theory of Evolution is often promoted by late night comics, …”

    That’s not so much promotion as it is mocking silly people like Trey Smith.

    >”Trey Smith is best known for his role in the 1999 safe robbery of prominent television evangelist, Mike Murdock …”

    Well, I guess he’s not ALL bad.

  2. I think this part of the Darwin quote mine is new:

    “It is a mere rag of an hypothesis with as many flaws & holes as sound parts.”

    That’s not at the TalkOrigins Quote Mine project, so far as I know.

    “known science laws even in his own day — such as Entropy in Thermodynamics …”

    Well, OK, “Entropy in Thermodynamics”, uh…

    1. first of all, entropy is not a “law”. Entropy is an extrinsic property of matter, like mass.

    2. The Second Law of Thermodynamics was worked out after 1859.

  3. How pissed off at the world do you have to be to put that much time and energy into denying well established reality?

  4. According to Wikipedia, the first statement of the 2nd law of thermodynamics was made in 1850, and the concept of entropy dates to 1865. Note that this fellow did not say that Entropy in Thermodynamics predates evolution, but only that it existed in Darwin’s day, which is true.

  5. The second part of the quote, “It is a mere rag of an hypothesis with as many flaws & holes as sound parts.”, is not from the same letter as the first part of the quote.

    The first part of the quote is from a letter to Asa Gray and is a common quote mine debunked at TalkOrigins.

    The second part of the quote is from an early 1859 letter to T. H. Huxley and the original is here.

    The safecracker author also states that Mendel’s laws of genetics were known in Darwin’s time, but as we all know, they were unknown to almost everyone until after Darwin was dead.

  6. Also do you notice this genius spells it “Origen of Species”?

  7. At the bottom of the article is a quote from R.E.D. Clark, not identified as a creationist. He was British and promoted the argument that evolution violated 2LOT, which Henry Morris dumbed down and ran with.

  8. TomS: Be that as it may, everyone should know by now that this applies only to a closed system. Refusal to acknowledge this is either willful ignorance on the part of the writer or outright deceit.

    I always had the impression that Christian Post was somewhat legitimate as fundie publications go. I didn’t realize they stooped to levels like this.

  9. Charles Deetz ;)

    Video is 1h20m long. I listened to 6m of that. Interesting nerd, he is fully engrossed in his subject matter and if I hadn’t read his lame article first, I’d listen to him more. But just like Alex Jones, he is so engrossed in his world-view, and struggling to explain it, that he becomes interesting to listen to. Completely over the top, completely missing basic facts about reality.

  10. Poolio: I most certainly did not mean to say that the creationist 2nd law argument holds water. I would point out two things:
    1. This is a typical creationist argument which applies at least as much to the origins of individuals – an argument for Scientific Storkism
    2. And it also typical in that it applies at least as much to “design”. No matter how clever the engineer, one cannot intelligently design a perpetual motion machine in violation of the laws of thermodynamics.

  11. Well, he isn’t subtle. But his website is well worth a visit. Besides the article quoted above, don’t miss the profound insights offered in his penetrating investigations on the topic of “Aliens: Masquerade of Dark Angels” and “ALIEN GREYS? Are they Aliens or Demons?”

    A quote from the latter gem: “There are 4 possiblities: 1) Grey aliens are from other planets. 2) Aliens are ‘benevolent’ inner dimensional beings. 3) Aliens are inner dimensional demons (not friendly). 4) None of it is real.”

    I wonder if he ever seriously considers Astounding Possibility # 4 when thinking about this own belief system, creationism included …

  12. Evolutionism and/or its spin-offs such as “Atheism” are the religious beliefs that nearly all observable sciences, modern knowledge, science laws, as well as all ancient records are a product of grand conspiracy.

    Can anyone figure out what the heck he is saying in this sentence?

    My guess is that he is trying to state that people who accept evolution somehow view both modern scientific knowledge and ancient texts as the products of a conspiracy. If his understanding of modern knowledge and “science laws” is based on the bilge pumped out of places like the DI to advance the conspiratorial purposes set forth in the wedge document, then he makes some sense. Actual scientists do regard much of that as part of a fundamentalist religious conspiracy to undermine science.

    He loses me however when he includes ancient texts as part of the grand conspiracy – they’re simply ancient scribblings by various pre-scientific peoples. I can’t see the conspiracy that he alludes to, unless he knows something we don’t.

  13. Curmy, you do find some extraordinary gems!

    I have to suspect here, however, that ‘Trey Smith’ is not an actual person but rather some sort of ELIZA-like program that simply spews out this semi-grammatical and utterly non sequitur screed at the push of a button.

  14. For all the hatred these folks exhibit towards evolution, haven’t they ever noticed that their own anti-evolution/anti-science fantasies have evolved over the years?

  15. Ceteris Paribus

    @Megalonyx:

    One can infer extraordinary spewishness in some person-like entity; but no sequitur actually pushes my button. But please tell me more about this ELIZA semi-personprogram. Thanks, Trey.

  16. Megalonyx,

    this reminds me of the program MathGen, which automatically writes papers on mathematics, some of which have been accepted to be published in math journals. (They’re gobbledygook, but reviewers can’t tell.)

    We should write a program, Creo-Gen, which automatically writes creationist articles. Then submit them to Answers Research Journal.

  17. @Diogenes: I’ve had just such a thought, but it seemed like a lot of work for a little bit of fun. Maybe I will look into it again.

  18. BWAHAHAHAHAHA! Look what I found!!

    Text Synthesis using Markov Chains

    Here is a 400-word sequence generated using Curmie’s post as a basis. Sorry about the CAPS, that’s how it spits out results.

    ITS DIFFICULT TO BELIEVE THAT A HUMAN BRAIN COULD PRODUCE SOMETHING LIKE WHAT WERE ABOUT TO PRESENT, DEAR READER, BUT WELL, LETS LOOK ON THE BRIGHT SIDE: A SPECIES WITH AS MANY FLAWS HOLES AS SOUND PARTS. CHARLES DARWIN THAT WAS DEBUNKED IN THE TALKORIGINS QUOTE MINE PROJECT. WE DISCUSSED THE SAME BOGUS QUOTE HERE: CREATIONIST WISDOM EXAMPLE 63. OKAY, DEAR READER WERE POLITICALLY DEFINED INFERIOR UNDER EVOLUTIONARY EUGENICS. THESE PROGRAMS NOT ONLY ALLOWED FOR THE EXTERMINATION OF INFERIOR GENETIC STOCK, BUT ALSO MADE PROVISION FOR HUMAN EXPERIMENTATION. GREAT STUFF, HUH? IF YOURE NEW TO THIS, WE DISCUSSED THE SAME BOGUS QUOTE HERE: CREATIONIST WISDOM EXAMPLE 63. OKAY, DEAR READER WERE POLITICALLY DEFINED INFERIOR UNDER EVOLUTIONARY EUGENICS. THESE PROGRAMS NOT ONLY ALLOWED FOR THE EXTERMINATION OF INFERIOR GENETIC STOCK, BUT ALSO MADE PROVISION FOR HUMAN EXPERIMENTATION. GREAT STUFF, HUH? IF YOURE NEW TO THIS, WE DISCUSSED THE SAME BOGUS QUOTE HERE: CREATIONIST WISDOM EXAMPLE 63. OKAY, DEAR READER WERE POLITICALLY DEFINED INFERIOR UNDER EVOLUTIONARY EUGENICS. THESE PROGRAMS NOT ONLY ALLOWED FOR THE EXTERMINATION OF INFERIOR GENETIC STOCK, BUT ALSO MADE PROVISION FOR HUMAN EXPERIMENTATION. GREAT STUFF, HUH? IF YOURE NEW TO THIS, WE DISCUSSED THE SAME BOGUS QUOTE HERE: CREATIONIST WISDOM EXAMPLE 63. OKAY, DEAR READER WERE POLITICALLY DEFINED INFERIOR UNDER EVOLUTIONARY EUGENICS. THESE PROGRAMS NOT ONLY ALLOWED FOR THE EXTERMINATION OF INFERIOR GENETIC STOCK, BUT ALSO MADE PROVISION FOR HUMAN EXPERIMENTATION. GREAT STUFF, HUH? IF YOURE NEW TO THIS, WE DISCUSSED IT IN ONE OF OUR EARLIEST POSTS: HITLER AND DARWIN. HERES ANOTHER EXCERPT FROM TREY SMITHS BRILLIANT ESSAY: EVOLUTION EVOLUTIONISM ANDOR ITS SPIN-OFFS SUCH AS BILL MAHER, AND ATHEIST SPOKESPEOPLE SUCH AS, RICHARD DAWKINS. COMICS AND ATHEISTS. HOW DEPRESSING. HERES MORE: EVOLUTION EVOLUTION-ISM DEFINITIONS EVOLUTIONISM ANDOR ITS SPIN-OFFS SUCH AS ATHEISM ARE THE RELIGIOUS BELIEFS THAT NEARLY ALL OBSERVABLE SCIENCES, MODERN KNOWLEDGE, SCIENCE LAWS, AS WELL AS ALL ANCIENT RECORDS ARE A PRODUCT OF GRAND CONSPIRACY. A GRAND CONSPIRACY! MOVING ALONG, WE FIND THE INEVITABLE HITLER CONNECTION: EVOLUTION EVOLUTION-ISM HISTORICALLY EVOLUTION AS PROPOSED BY DARWIN WAS FIRST USED IN A NUTSHELL PROJECT. TREY SMITH IS BEST KNOWN FOR HIS ROLE IN THE TALKORIGINS QUOTE MINE PROJECT. WE DISCUSSED THE SAME BOGUS QUOTE HERE: CREATIONIST WISDOM EXAMPLE 63. OKAY, DEAR READER WERE DONE. NOW GO, RE-THINK YOUR WRETCHED LIFE AND ALL THE

    Note how it tends to start repeating itself over and over. This bring up the interesting and slightly disturbing possibility that Creo-Gen already exists, and is in the hands of Creationists.

  19. This is rather dated, but he has a simple explanation of the method, and The Revelation of St. Alice is a kick. Here is a short selection:

    Alas! it was growing, and growing, and very soon found an help meet for him. She was moving them about as curious as it were
    the sun, and his Father; to him that curseth thee: and in despair she put her hand in hand, in couples: they were all the money that was the black kitten’s fault entirely. For the white kitten had had quite taken away her breath away at first. `And what enormous flowers they must be!’ thought Alice. `I’ve so often read in the sight of the LORD hath blessed me for a witness between me and the soup and fish,’ she said.

    ;-)

  20. Diogenes says: “We should write a program, Creo-Gen, which automatically writes creationist articles.”

    I’m no programmer, but in principle it sounds simple. A database with a few dozen creationist claims, like “no transitionals,” and “tornado in a junkyard,” and all the others that we see over and over again. Add to that dozens of mined quotes. TalkOrigins has them, or you can get them from old Henry Morris’ book. Plus a few dozen passages from scripture. Then just mix & match. You could crank out hundreds of creationist essays that way.

  21. ***Also do you notice this genius spells it “Origen of Species”?***

    Must have theology on the brain.

    Origen – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

  22. Wow. Trey Smith makes Time Cube look perfectly sane in comparison.

  23. Ed: It says “ancient records” not “ancient texts”. I interpreted this as meaning the geological record, the fossil record, etc. Of course I could be wrong.

    TomS: Understood. I know you’re not a crackpot. I was just noting that what was known or not known about entropy in Darwin’s time simply has no bearing on the legitimacy of the argument today.

  24. Poolio: I read “records” as written accounts, given that they are part of the alleged “grand conspiracy”.

    However, we will probably never know what was actually in the mind of the former yegg.

  25. @H.K. Fauskanger:
    I thought that you must have made a copying error when you wrote “inner dimensional”, so I went back and checked, only to find that they do indeed write about “inner dimensional” beings. What is that supposed to mean?

  26. Since I’m always looking for programming projects to hone my skills, I just may take a crack at creating the “Creo-Gen” if I have enough spare time to get around to it. This sort of thing has been done before; I forget where it is, but someone did create a similar program that would generate post-modern philosophical essays and Time Cube-ish nonsense articles.

  27. TomS,
    an “inner dimensional” being is obviously the opposite of an “OUTER dimensional” being. Duh, what else could it be? Compare the “inter-dimensional creatures from the spaces between the spaces” that appear in a certain 2008 semi-documentary movie about archaeology in South America (Harrison Ford expertly emulating what it is really like to be an archaeologist). Sometimes Hollywood’s output is every bit as educational as the average creationist site!

  28. MathGen is a real program, described by its author here.

    MathGen is a fork of SciGen, “An Automatic CS [Computer Science] Paper Generator”.

    Here is a post describing an auto-generated MathGen paper being accepted for publication.

    Apparently writing forks of SciGen is pretty easy, so Creo-Gen should be easy.

    Just take a bunch of “Darwinist” quote mines from the TalkOrigins quote mine project, and some Ray Comfort articles, some Hitler quotes (maybe fake), plug them in, and submit the output to AIG’s Answers Research Journal.

    Another possibility is Theo-Gen, which would write William Lane Craig-style proofs of the existence of God, and papers on Plantinga-style “sophisticated theology”.

  29. Fauskanger,

    are you mocking “Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull”?

    What, just because the Crystal Skulls themselves are archaeological hoaxes, that makes the movie implausible?

    Certainly archaeologists can survive nuclear blasts by hiding in refrigerators. That’s part of the job description.

    Wikipedia: ” According to [George Lucas], he outlined the scene himself, assembling a dossier of research data to convince Spielberg, who initially believed the idea was impossible. According to “a lot of scientists”, if the refrigerator were lead-lined, and if Jones didn’t break his neck in the crash, “the odds of surviving that refrigerator… are about 50-50.”

    There you go– perfectly scientific.

  30. Diogenes says:

    Just take a bunch of “Darwinist” quote mines from the TalkOrigins quote mine project, and some Ray Comfort articles, some Hitler quotes (maybe fake), plug them in, and submit the output to AIG’s Answers Research Journal.

    I could re-program the Retard-o-tron™ to do this. It already has a data base of key phrases it searches for. No reason it couldn’t print them out.

  31. Bob Carroll

    We must be careful here, when referring to the Second Law, to recognize that it is not restricted to closed systems, but is valid for all systems.

  32. I love this post. Another idiot defending evolution when it has already been proven wrong several times. Good luck with your false beliefs.