Category Archives: Evolution

AIG: The Fountains of the Deep

A month ago we wrote Massive Creationist Ecstasy Alert!, about a geological discovery of evidence suggesting the existence of large volumes of water deep beneath the Earth. We predicted that an inevitable creationist festival of Drool was certain to follow, claiming that this is proof of the fabled “fountains of the deep” that fueled Noah’s Flood.

It’s taken some time, but we finally have what we’ve been waiting for. It’s from the creation scientists at Answers in Genesis (ol’ Hambo’s online ministry), and the author is Dr. Elizabeth Mitchell. Her bio page at AIG says she’s a physician, board certified in obstetrics and gynecology. She’s a creationist gynecologist, but now she’s dabbling in geology. Her article is Diamond with Ringwoodite Reveals Water Deep in Earth’s Mantle. Here are some excerpts, with bold font added by us:

More than just a place of molten rock, earth’s mantle apparently harbors a watery zone able to hold an ocean of water. Analysis of a diamond volcanically coughed up from deep in the earth and recovered in Brazilian river gravel has serendipitously revealed water-containing ringwoodite, a testimony to the presence of both water and the elusive olivine polymorph under the earth.

She devotes several paragraphs to describing the discovery. There are better places to read about that, starting with those linked in our earlier post, so we’ll skip that and get to the good stuff. Here it comes, in a section labeled Fountains of the Great Deep:

As we examine this discovery in light of the history of the global Flood documented in God’s Word, we see that water not only changes everything about the way a planet works in the present, but also about 4,300 years ago at the time of the global Flood. Dr. Snelling explains:

“Snelling” isn’t identified, but it must be a reference to Andrew Snelling, one of AIG’s creation scientists. Mitchell, the creationist gynecologist, quotes Snelling, the flood geologist:

What is the profound significance of this discovery? It confirms the capacity of the mantle to have housed the water that was released when the fountains of the great deep were broken up to commence the Flood, and the huge volume of water that was released through these fountains for as much as 150 days, providing more than enough water to help submerge the whole globe, just as described in Genesis 7:11–24.

Verily, just as the Good Book says. Then, in a section labeled Catastrophic Plate Tectonics, there's another quote from Snelling:

So this study seems to confirm a major component of the catastrophic plate tectonics model. The break-up of the earth’s crust into plates and the resultant continental sprint was initiated by the cataclysmic release of the waters for the Flood through these fountains of the great deep.

That links to an article written by Snelling in 2007: Can Catastrophic Plate Tectonics Explain Flood Geology?, which you can read if you like, but we’re not going to bother with it. Here’s the last paragraph of the creationist gynecologist’s article:

Though we were not there at the time of the global Flood, God in His Word, primarily in Genesis chapters 6–9, has provided us with an eyewitness account of the violent events that remodeled the earth’s surface. The geology we see today has been strongly influenced by the global Flood, and Bible-believing geologists like Dr. Snelling note that what we see is consistent with biblical history. The Bible’s history helps us understand what we see in nature and to understand that our world did not require billions of years to take its present shape. This latest discovery is likewise completely consistent with biblical history.

So there you are. The creation scientists are happy, and so is your Curmudgeon. Why is the Curmudgeon happy? Because our prediction of a creationist Deluge of Drool has been confirmed.

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Meet Beniah Wilson, Kathy Martin’s Opponent

This may be the most inconsequential state legislative race in history, but it’s interesting to us because of our peculiar view of things. We recently wrote Kathy Martin and Kelly Kohls — They’re Back!, in which we quoted a news story that said:

Former Kansas Board of Education member Kathy Martin, rural Clay Center, filed today for the Kansas House of Representatives 64th District seat being vacated by retiring state Rep. Vern Swanson. She will face Republican Beniah Wilson, a K-State student who has also filed for the position.

Everyone who follows The Controversy between evolution and creationism immediately recognizes Kathy Martin’s name, but who is her challenger? We looked around for his campaign website. He doesn’t seem to have one — at least not yet. But we did find an article at the website of the Kansas State Collegian, which informs us that it is “the daily newspaper at Kansas State University in Manhattan, Kansas.” Also, it is “reported, edited, and produced entirely by students” and it’s “the ninth-largest daily newspaper in Kansas.”

The item we found is Student doesn’t want to wait to pursue goals, files to run for Kansas House. Here are some excerpts, with bold font added by us:

A K-Stater has a goal to be working in the Kansas capitol, soon. Beniah Wilson, senior in music composition, has filed as a Republican candidate for the Kansas House.

Music composition? Yes indeed. He has a video at YouTube where you can spend three minutes with him as he plays the violin: Joy and Hope. Your Curmudgeon listened to it, but we are hopelessly un-musical, so we’ll refrain from expressing an opinion. Back to the college newspaper story:

Wilson’s interest in politics began in high school when he participated on the debate team. It grew in college after he took several political science classes, including Kansas Politics and Constitutional Law. He is now minoring in political science.

Our only observation here is that aside from political science, there’s no mention of any actual science courses, so we don’t yet have a clue as to what Wilson’s thinking may be about creationism. Let’s read on:

Wilson is a member of the College Republicans and Campus Crusade. He also participates in Conversational Cafe on campus. Although his major is music, Wilson said his extracurricular activities have prepared him for a career in politics.

We found a website for the K-State Cru, which says they were formerly named the Campus Crusade for Christ. That’s probably Wilson’s group. They have a Statement of Faith, which begins by saying:

The sole basis of our beliefs is the Bible, God’s infallible written Word, the 66 books of the Old and New Testaments. We believe that it was uniquely, verbally and fully inspired by the Holy Spirit and that it was written without error (inerrant) in the original manuscripts. It is the supreme and final authority in all matters on which it speaks.

It’s reasonable to assume that Wilson and Kathy probably have identical beliefs about creationism. So what will the race be about? The newspaper article continues:

“I want to be a voice that is concerned about the future and enact policies that would be beneficial to everyone,” Wilson said.

That’s nice. Here’s more:

Currently, Wilson is working as an intern for Rep. Jim Howell to learn more about how the House works. Wilson said he is looking for new laws to push, and is interested in working on legislation for education, job creation and preserving freedoms, including Second Amendment rights.

That’s what this country needs — legislators who are “looking for new laws to push.” We don’t have nearly enough laws now. Moving along:

Wilson is currently running against Kathy Martin in the 64th District for the seat vacated by retiring Rep. Vern Swanson. The district covers parts of Riley, Geary, Dickinson and Clay Counties. Junction City and Clay Center are included in the district, but Manhattan is not (it lies in the 22nd District). Martin is a Democrat and a former member of the Kansas Board of Education.

Aaaargh!! They certainly blew that. We’ll quote from our earlier post:

Martin is the Clay County Republican chairperson and is on the Republican State Committee.

How did the Kansas State Collegian mess up so badly? We’ll never know. Another excerpt:

The primary election for the district will be held on August 5.

And as everyone knows, Republicans always run against Democrats in primary elections. Ah well, we’re talking about Kansas.

There’s more in the article about Wilson’s youth and enthusiasm, and nothing much about Kathy. The overall impression is that an energetic young student is challenging a shriveled hag who is presumably out of touch with the state’s young people.

Our guess is that Kathy will totally crush the idealistic fiddle-player, but one never knows. In Kansas, anything is possible.

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Casey Reacts to “Cosmos” Episode 6

Today we have the reaction of Casey Luskin — our favorite creationist — to the latest episode of Cosmos: A SPACETIME ODYSSEY which aired last weekend, hosted by Neil deGrasse Tyson. It was titled “Deeper, Deeper, Deeper Still,” in which Tyson explored the atomic and sub-atomic structure of the universe.

We already posted Klinghoffer Awaits “Cosmos” Episode 6 Tonight. That was where Klinghoffer slipped up and admitted that the Discoveroids’ intelligent designer — blessed be he! — is “transcendent.” That means it exists beyond the space and time of the universe it designed. A claim like that, at least in our experience, has heretofore been made only in reference to Yahweh. There’s little doubt now (there never really was any) that the “scientific theory” of the Discoveroids is all about mysticism and supernatural phenomena.

Anyway, today it’s Casey’s turn. His post is: Cosmos Episode 6: Science as the New Sacred, and Failed Darwinian Predictions About Insects and Flowers. Let’s see what he thinks. Here are some excerpts, with bold font added by us:

Cosmos episode 6 is ostensibly about the miniature reality of the atom. Once again, there are some spectacular animations explaining the nature of the atom, and how they interact to form chemical bonds. We are also treated to animations of steampunk-style molecular machines, supposedly mimicking molecular machines in biology. Host Neil deGrasse Tyson has yet to dare tackle the question of how molecular machines might have evolved, but in this episode he did throw in a little tidbit supposedly highlighting a successful prediction of Darwinian evolution.

Lots of derogatory language there. Episode 6 is “ostensibly” about the miniature reality of the atom. Tyson doesn’t “dare to tackle the question of of how molecular machines might have evolved.” BWAHAHAHAHAHA! He’s afraid! And Tyson tossed in “a little tidbit supposedly highlighting a successful prediction” of Darwin’s theory. Casey’s going to rip that tidbit to shreds. Here it comes:

He [Tyson] observes, “plants covered the surface of the earth for hundreds of millions of years, before they put out their first flower,” and then states that this led Darwin to make a prediction:

[Casey quotes Tyson on Darwin's prediction:] On this basis of his theory of evolution through natural selection, Darwin speculated that somewhere on the Island of Madagascar there must live flying insects with extraordinarily lengthy tongues — ones long enough to reach the pollen. No one had ever seen such a beast there. But Darwin insisted that an animal fitting this description must exist. It wasn’t until more than 50 years later that Darwin was proven right.

Casey isn’t impressed. He tells us:

First of all, you wouldn’t need to know anything about evolution to make the prediction Darwin supposedly made. Given the shape of the flower, if there weren’t some insect capable of sipping its nectar, the flower could not attract insects capable of pollinating that species, and the plant would die out. There isn’t some profound evolutionary principle at work here — a middle school level knowledge of angiosperm reproduction could probably lead you to expect some insect exists that enjoys this species’ flowers and fosters its pollination.

We don’t disagree. The existence of that insect is a relatively trivial prediction. Let’s read on:

Second, it actually turns out that Darwinian evolution has had great difficulties making good predictions when it comes to flowering plants (angiosperms) and insects — not the least of which is the abrupt appearance of many angiosperm groups in the fossil record — without clear evolutionary precursors — in early Cretaceous. Darwin himself called the “rapid development” of “higher plants” an “abominable mystery” for his theory.

Oh dear — “abrupt appearance.” Such discontinuities in the currently discovered fossil record are — in the Discoveroids’ view of things — uncontrovertible evidence that their magical Designer did the deed. This is a pure God of the gaps claim, and it’s worthless. Casey continues:

Somehow this abrupt appearance of plants was never mentioned by Cosmos as failed prediction of Darwinian theory in this area.

Maybe that’s because it’s a prediction that hasn’t failed — not in the way that, say, the now discredited Steady State theory was discredited by the discovery of the cosmic microwave background. The fossil record will always have gaps. The actual prediction of Darwin’s theory is that any fossils that are found will always be in the expected sequence. No one will ever find a Precambrian rabbit.

Casey devotes several paragraphs to a few other equally pathetic examples of what he claims are failed Darwinian predictions about insects and flowering plants. More gaps. Hey Casey: You want some successful scientific predictions from evolution theory? Okay, here’s a couple:

• Every fossil ever unearthed will fit into the evolutionary pattern. If you find something that doesn’t fit, let us know. Until then, we’ll keep asking Where Are The Anachronistic Fossils?

• Even discoveries unexpected by Darwin– like DNA — will support the theory of evolution.

And since Casey brought up the subject of predictions, what about ID predictions? Like “there’s no junk DNA.” What about all the organisms with genomes far larger than ours — like onions, amoebae, the Norway spruce, and even moss. We discussed all that in We Welcome Our Moss Overlords. How’s that “no junk DNA” prediction working out, Casey? No answer? Okay. Then he tells us:

No episode of Cosmos would be complete without the customary bashing of religious belief in the supernatural. Here’s how Tyson puts it in this episode:

[Casey quotes Tyson:] The most revolutionary innovation of all to come to us from this ancient world, was the idea that natural events were neither punishment nor reward from capricious gods. The workings of nature could be explained without invoking the supernatural.

You know how stuff like that upsets the Discoveroids. Casey lashes out:

Tyson tells us that the idea that the universe could be explained by the workings of natural laws came from Thales of Miletus. According to Tyson, the very idea of a “cosmos out of chaos, a universe governed by the order of natural laws, that we could actually figure out” was the “epic adventure” that Thales initiated. And like we’ve seen over and over again, Cosmos‘s early heroes of science weren’t materialists who rejected belief in God, but were theists who believe in a supreme God who created everything.

Casey insists that Thales actually believed in Zeus, which doesn’t help his theory about a transcendent designer who can’t be distinguished from Yahweh. He does admit that Democritus, whom Tyson also mentioned, was indeed an atheist. He says:

So what is Cosmos now — maybe 1 for 10 early scientific thinkers cited by Cosmos to bash religion actually were atheists? In any case, we must give credit where credit is due: Democritus was an atheist who rejected the pantheon of Greek gods. But science would not really get started until hundreds of years later when Christian scholars — who also rejected the capricious Greek gods in favor of a single God with a supreme mind — created an intelligible universe.

Ah yes, Christianity and science go hand in hand. But only if one ignores the long, dreary, utterly wretched centuries of the Dark Ages when Christianity ruled the West and there was no science at all — except in the Islamic world which, for a time, appreciated the work of the Greeks. And as we’ve said before, regardless of the religious beliefs of individual scientists, there is no scientific discovery or theory in astronomy, physics, chemistry, or biology that depends upon anything in scripture. The bible is either irrelevant to or contradicted by science — which is why the Discoveroids oppose it. Here’s more:

At one point in episode 6, Tyson enters a cathedral, and for what feels like many seconds, an atom with orbiting electrons is portrayed overlapping with the stained glass windows of a cathedral. Why the strange emphasis on this imagery? If you follow new atheist thinking and literature, the answer is simple. An important component of new atheist thinking is their realization that science lacks the spiritual inspiration that religion provides for people. They are desperate to find ways to make science into a new form of human spirituality to replace religion.


And that’s exactly what we see in Cosmos episode 6: today’s sacred cathedrals become monuments not to God who creates atoms that build the cathedral, but to the atom. If that doesn’t make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside, I suppose I don’t know what will.

That’s how Casey’s essay ends. We wonder how Tyson feels, now that he’s been shown to be a fool.

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Rev. David Rives — It’s By Design!

The powerful effect of what it found this morning almost overwhelmed the Drool-o-tron™. Its blaring sirens and flashing lights seemed particularly stressed.

As we feared, the blinking letters of its wall display said WorldNetDaily (WND), and our computer was locked onto WND’s presentation of the latest video by the brilliant and articulate leader of David Rives Ministries. WND’s headline is Earth specially designed for life. It doesn’t show up here because all our link titles are underlined, but at WND you can see that the word “designed” is underlined in their headline. They want to emphasize it.

When you click over there — and we know you will — you’ll see that the actual title of the video is Our Special Earth. It’s about our location in the Sun’s habitable zone — which didn’t happen by accident! The rev is very persuasive, and the facts are overwhelming. If this doesn’t make you into a believer, then there’s no hope for you.

The video is only a minute and a half long, and the rev’s message can save you from the Lake of Fire. Surely you can spare ninety seconds to avoid an eternity of torment. But maybe you have something going on that you think is more important. It’s up to you, dear reader.

As we usually do with the rev’s videos, we dedicate the comments section for your use as an Intellectual Free Fire Zone. You know the rules, but please remember — bathroom jokes must be in good taste. Okay, the comments are open. Have at it!

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