Liberty University & the Natural History Museum

WE have all read amusing accounts about visits to the Creation Museum, telling how rational people react the absurd display of Babylonian-era “science.” Okay, dear reader, now we’re going to give you the flip side.

Here are some excerpts from US creationists unswayed by evolution exhibition, appearing in the Daily Telegraph, which has the ninth largest daily newspaper circulation in the UK. The bold font was added by us:

They plan to become doctors, researchers and professors, but these students from Liberty University, an evangelical school, also believe that God created the Earth in a week, around 6,000 years ago.

Each year, a group of biology students at the Christian university based in Lynchburg, Virginia, travels to the Natural History Museum in Washington to learn about a theory they dismiss as incorrect – Darwin’s theory of evolution.

Here’s some information about Liberty University. Now let’s read some more from the Daily Telegraph:

The young “creationists” examined a model of the Morganucodon rat, believed to be the first and common ancestor of mammals that appeared some 210 million years ago.

Lauren Dunn, 19, a second-year biology student, was unimpressed. “210 million years, that’s arbitrary. They put that time to make up for what they don’t know,” she said.

Smart girl! We continue:

Nathan Hubbard, a 20 year-old from Michigan and a first-year biology major who plans to become a doctor, regarded the model with suspicion. “There is no scientific, biological genetic way that this, this rat, could become you,” he said, seemingly scandalised by the proposition.

That lad is going to be a great physician one day. Here’s more:

Liberty University is the most prominent evangelical university in the United States, with around 12,000 students who adhere to strict rules and regulations regarding moral conduct. Its biology curriculum includes a course on “Young Earth Creationism”, which juxtaposes Charles Darwin’s Origin of the Species with the Book of Genesis.

Truly, a model for schools everywhere! Moving along:

David DeWitt, a Liberty University biology professor, opens his classes with a prayer, asking God to help him teach his students. “I pray that you help me to teach effectively and help the students to learn and defend their faith,” he says.

That’s the way science should be taught! Another excerpt:

Creationist belief has implications for the way people understand a variety of fields, including biology, paleontology and astronomy, but also impacts questions about climate change and educational debates.

Isn’t this great? On with the article:

“Creationism and evolutionism have different ways of explaining the evidence. The creationist way recognises the importance of biblical records,” said Ross [Marcus Ross, who teaches paleontology]. He teaches his students that dinosaurs were wiped from the face of the Earth 4,000 to 5,000 years ago during the flood that Noah survived by building an ark. He says carbon-dating techniques that have been used to suggest the Earth is in fact billions of years old are simply not reliable.

Carbon-dating suggests billions of years? Who knew? The article ends with another quote from Ross:

Though Ross acknowledges that the United States is among the most welcoming environments in the world for creationists, he said it can be difficult to convince people to take him and his beliefs seriously. “The attitude is when you are a creationist you are ignorant of the facts,” he said.

And so we leave the creationist students and their learned faculty. We trust that they will soon be back in the comforting environment of Liberty University, where their science is respected.

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13 responses to “Liberty University & the Natural History Museum

  1. “The attitude is when you are a creationist you are ignorant of the facts,” he said.

    LOL! Does the truth hurt? Of course not, they just ignore it.

    I also like where, “He says carbon-dating techniques that have been used to suggest the Earth is in fact billions of years old are simply not reliable.” How like a cretinist “professor” to be ignorant of the fact that carbon-dating has nothing to do with determining the age of the earth. According to wikipedia, carbon-dating is used “to determine the age of carbonaceous materials up to about 58,000 to 62,000 years.” Even that, no matter how “reliable”, call into question a young earth.

  2. It is disheartening to see that ignorance is still being taught based on an old out-dated book that had no pretense as being a scientific text. Science has learned and progressed, these creationists haven’t.

  3. An oldie but a goodie:

    “If it’s really true that the museum at Liberty University has dinosaur fossils which are labeled as being 3,000 years old, then that is an educational disgrace. It is debauching the whole idea of a university, and I would strongly encourage any members of Liberty University who may be here to leave and go to a proper univeristy.”

    -Richard Dawkins

  4. Has Marcus Ross ever challenged Hugh Ross (old-earth creationist) on the timeline of events?

  5. Article notes

    David DeWitt, a Liberty University biology professor, opens his classes with a prayer, asking God to help him teach his students.

    One may call to mind here an old observation: God always answers prayers, but sometimes the answer is “No.”

  6. It’s a little disturbing to think that these people could one day be the doctor about to perform surgery on you. Like a car mechanic that’s convinced planes fly by giant invisible fairies pushing them. I mean, they might be good at their profession, but if they are so woefully and deliberately ignorant of an important part of science, I couldn’t help but question their competence.

  7. retiredsciguy

    Here’s a thought — if creationists were to see only creationist doctors, evolution should eventually thin their ranks enough that future Curmies won’t have much to write about. Creationism will be in the past tense.

  8. Roger E spotted the fallacy about the C14 thing quite nicely.
    C14 is only used to date stuff a few tens of thousands years old. We use radioactive dating to measure back millions and billions of years. And that stuff is pretty damn reliable, it’s about radioactive half lives after all.

  9. LOL! How is LibU even accredited???

  10. retiredsciguy

    So, which med schools admit students from Liberty U?

  11. RBH says: “Here’s video of that piece.”

    Thanks, Richard.

  12. A video? It’s bad enough reading about it.