We recently posted Answers in Genesis Rejects “Created Old” Argument? Now their collection of rejects is growing again.
That collection is a peculiar feature maintained by Answers in Genesis (AIG), one of the major sources of young-earth creationist wisdom. They have a small list of Arguments that should never be used. And here’s a supplemental list. There they’ve collected some of the absolute worst, most easily-debunked creationist arguments. This lets them pretend that they really don’t promote nonsensical claims. But of course they do.
In retiring certain worthless arguments, AIG is often careful to keep their options open. For example, when retiring the “created old” argument, they merely made a semantic change, because they’re still free to say that the universe was created “mature.” This is what passes for intellectual integrity in the strange world of creationism.
The same kind of slipperiness is evident today. We present to you, dear reader, some excerpts from AIG’s Arguments Christians Shouldn’t Use: The Second Law of Thermodynamics Began at the Fall.
The usual moronic creationist 2nd Law argument goes like this: “The second law of thermodynamics says that everything tends toward disorder, making evolutionary development impossible.” TalkOrigins debunks that here.
You no doubt observed from their title that AIG isn’t rejecting the whole stupid 2nd Law argument — just a peculiar variant that the 2nd Law started with the Fall — you know, Adam, Eve, and the forbidden fruit. So retiring this particular claim about the 2nd Law is trivial indeed. Okay, let’s get to it. The bold font was added by us:
Some Christians state quite categorically that the second law of thermodynamics began at the Fall. After all, it is obvious that things would not “run down” in a perfect environment, right? How could there be disorder in a world that God pronounced “very good”?
Did you ever hear that before? We didn’t either — or if we did, we paid no attention to it. Let’s read on:
The second law states that closed systems tend towards increased entropy — an increase in disorder. Another way to look at this is that the amount of energy available for work in a closed system is decreasing. The law allows for increasing the amount of order in a given system, so when applying the law, the system being discussed must be carefully defined.
AIG has a footnote to that, which says:
Applying the second law of thermodynamics to various systems to refute evolutionary ideas is appropriate, but it must be done carefully and considering the concept of open and closed systems. The law allows for increasing the amount of order in a given system, so when applying the law the system being discussed must be carefully defined.
As we said, they’re keeping their options open. You haven’t heard the last of the 2nd Law from AIG — or any other creationist. We continue with the main article:
So if things are “running down,” does it follow that this would not have begun until man sinned and brought about the effects of the Curse? Actually, this statement does not hold up under closer examination.
Then they give a few examples of physical processes that had to be occurring before the Fall, such as digestion and sunshine. You already know this stuff, but it’s probably shocking news to AIG’s usual readership. AIG then wraps up their little discussion of pre-Fall “very good” entropy by saying:
This concept can confuse people, which is understandable — considering we most often equate entropy with decay and thus associate this idea with the “running down of the universe.” However, some aspects of entropy are important for maintaining life, and these aspects are not “bad.”
How retarded to they think their readers actually are? It doesn’t matter. Here’s more:
Prior to the Fall, God upheld His creation perfectly. After man disobeyed God — which brought about the effects of the Curse — it was as if God withdrew some of His sustaining power (all the while still upholding the universe but not in a perfect state — giving us a taste of what life is like without Him). Thus we have a world that is suffering the cumulative effect of this increasing disorder (decay).
Careful now. We must always distinguish between necessary “very good” entropy and the unnecessary kind — Curse decay. These are very different concepts. And here’s the end of AIG’s article:
So the argument that the second law of thermodynamics began at the Fall is one that we believe Christians should not use.
It’s all so very clear. Now go forth and spread the word.
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