Creationist Parents Guilty in Child’s Death

In a case that is gruesomely similar to the one involving Dale & Leilani Neumann, about which we first reported here, Damn You! Damn You All To Hell!, we read in the Christian Post, presumably an unbiased source: Faith-Healing Couple Convicted in Son’s Death. Here are some excerpts, with bold added by us:

The Pennsylvania parents who turned to prayer instead of medicine as their son died of bacteria pneumonia were found guilty of involuntary manslaughter and child endangerment Friday.

Herbert and Catherine Schaible could face five to 10 years in prison for the manslaughter charge and 3-1/2 to seven years for endangering the welfare of a child in the 2009 death of their 2-year-old son.

Involuntary manslaughter? It seems to us that refusing to seek medical treatment is a deliberate decision. Let’s read on:

The couple, who have six other children, must await until Feb. 2 to be sentenced by Common Pleas Judge Carolyn Engel Temin. Bail was set at $150,000 pending that hearing, according to the Philadelphia Inquirer.

We hope none of the remaining six becomes seriously ill. The article continues:

During the trial, defense attorneys argued that faith played no part in the parents’ decision to forgo medical care for their son, Kent Schaible. They said the couple thought their son was suffering from a severe cold and was not very sick.

Ah, it wasn’t their religion. They just didn’t know the boy was sick. Right! But there are two sides to this story. Here’s more:

A statement made by Herbert Schaible to homicide detectives was read during the trial, in which he said, “We tried to fight the devil, but in the end the devil won.”

Whatcha gonna do? The devil is a powerful adversary. One more excerpt:

Herbert, 42, teaches at a school run by the couple’s church, First Century Gospel Church, and Catherine, 41, is a stay-at-home mother.

First Century? That sounds about right. So your Curmudgeon located that church’s website: [the original link is dead, try this — First Century Gospel Church] and we found this page: [their “what we believe” link is now dead]. It lists [well, it used to list] ten articles of faith, including this one, number 7:

Believing faith in the atonement work of Jesus includes trusting God for healing without medicine, for divine protection without devices, and for daily needs without laid-up money.

That’s nice. First Century medicine at its finest. But we were curious to know if this group is also creationist. We found a page with several Sermons, and that’s where we came across this goodie: Creation by God, sub-titled: “The choice between the truth of the Creation story, and the lie of evolution.” It’s everything you’d expect, including:.

Everyone must choose whether to believe the truth of God’s creation story, or the lie of the evolution theory. The creation account in Genesis is 100% accurate, but the theory of evolution is totally in error. Biblical facts are completely opposed to evolution beliefs. Every design has a designer, and random chance has no chance.

[…]

If we believe that God has the power to create anything, then we should also believe He can do anything or heal any oppression.

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Satan wants to discredit God by refuting creation and endorsing evolution. A multitude of mistakes, myths, and misinformation have been discovered in the evolution theory, but this lie remains in public school textbooks.

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If Satan can have us question whether God created the world, he can have us doubt all of Scripture. If someone rejects the truth of creation by an all-powerful Creator, they would also reject divine healing by an all-powerful God.

We don’t need to add any commentary, dear reader. The situation speaks for itself.

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16 responses to “Creationist Parents Guilty in Child’s Death

  1. By their ‘logic’ if God doesn’t heal their sick, then they must think he can’t do anything…

    oh wait, it was the devil… I actually agree, it was the devil of ignorance and blind faith.

  2. Here’s an article in the Philadelphia Inquirer. It has a picture of the loving parents.

  3. My son (in his 40s) almost died of bacterial pneumonia a couple of years ago. I know how sick he was, and he was an adult who could articulate how he was feeling. It was awful for him, and so painful for me I still remember it vividly. I can’t imagine letting a baby suffer like that. I want them to go to jail where they can’t hurt any more children.

    BTW, Herbert and Catherine Schaible, your theology is nasty. Your god, small and mean, and may the Creator, whom you do not worship (and don’t give me any bunk about Scotsmen, because I’m not interested) have mercy on your soul. However, I don’t want the law to show you any more mercy than you showed that baby.

  4. In all fairness, most people known as “creationists” would never do such a horrible thing. But the chilling irony is that, in rejecting all the benefits of science, not just those they don’t like, these parents are more consistent than the majority of evolution-deniers.

  5. Frank J says:

    In all fairness, most people known as “creationists” would never do such a horrible thing.

    In all fairness? Yes, that’s the ticket! Fairness for creationists!

    Seriously, however, I agree that most of the professional creationist scammers probably wouldn’t kill their own children, but their mindless followers certainly might, and the professionals wouldn’t feel a tingle of guilt or remorse.

  6. Maybe they missed the part about God helping those who help themselves.

    They worship the Book not the God therein. Their faith is not in Him but in the leader(s) of their church, who should also be prosecuted for their role in leading their flock away from common sense.

    God would not punish an innocent for the ‘sins’ of it’s parents.

  7. Believing faith in the atonement work of Jesus includes trusting God for healing without medicine, for divine protection without devices, and for daily needs without laid-up money.

    I’m more curious about the ‘divine protection’ bit than the healing bit. Are they saying they don’t use birth control and don’t get pregnant? Do they not use kitchen mitts when taking things out of the oven? Do they remove their smoke detectors? Wear helmets when riding motorcycles? If they become cops, do the never wear body armor? Enquiring minds want to know.

  8. Eric, it means they don’t go to doctors — although dentists are OK, for some unknown (at least to me) reason. It also means they do not purchase any type of insurance.

    There’s an old, worn-out story about a guy sitting on top of his roof during a flood waiting for God to rescue him and turning away all other offers of help. These people think the guy was right.

  9. Ellie, thanks for the explanation, but now I am more confused than before. What the frak does an insurance policy have to do with “devices?” An oven mitt is a device. A helmet is a device. Evidently they use those. An insurance policy is a contract agreement between two parties. Not a device. But they are morally opposed to such contracts?

  10. Benjamin Franklin

    Ellie-

    In looking at their website, they are so percolated that they can go to dentists only for cleanings and cavities, but other procedures, or oral surgery would be apparently be the devil’s work.

    Actually, now that I think back on my last root canal…

  11. retiredsciguy

    NDaBoonies writes, “Their faith is not in Him but in the leader(s) of their church, who should also be prosecuted for their role in leading their flock away from common sense.”

    Sounds very similar to Jim Jones and the People’s Temple cult, don’t you think? I agree with you 100%, NDaBoonies. The cult leader(s) should also be prosecuted, although it would be a tough case to make.

  12. Sadly, I do not think natural selection will treat these folks kindly.

  13. Eric, they are morally opposed to insurance because purchasing insurance would mean they weren’t trusting in God.

    I can’t read anything more about them. They make my BP go up.

    Ben Franklin, root canals….absolutely devilish.

  14. Ellie: Eric, they are morally opposed to insurance because purchasing insurance would mean they weren’t trusting in God.

    But I assume they wear seat belts, and helmets, and so on. Ah well, like you I think I’m going to have to leave this one alone. Thinking about all their inconsistencies isn’t going to make it more rational, its just going to make me more annoyed.

  15. Curmudgeon: “Seriously, however, I agree that most of the professional creationist scammers probably wouldn’t kill their own children, but their mindless followers certainly might, and the professionals wouldn’t feel a tingle of guilt or remorse.”

    Good point, and even more reason to distinguish between the scammers and the rank and file. The former are aware that their antics will likely push a tiny fraction of the rank and file over the edge, so they do share in the responsibility. If God is anything like devout Judeo-Christians claim (Judgment and all), it would not surprise me that some of those scammers receive harsher “sentences” than those parents. Especially if God is more liberal than I am with the “insanity defense.”

  16. retiredsciguy you nailed it. This is a cult. I think Creationists are all cult members.

    They are not concerned with bringing folks to Christ, which, if I remember correctly from my church going days is the prime directive for a Christian. But not Creationists. Their prime directive is protect the book.