Creationist Wisdom #165: The Force

Today we bring you another letter-to-the-editor from the News Star of Monroe, Louisiana. This one is titled If evolution is a random process …. We’ll give you some excerpts, and we’ll also add some bold for emphasis, plus our usual Curmudgeonly commentary between paragraphs. Here we go:

The scientific process of evolution has no facts, hard core to back up their theory of the process. They still cling to the “Big Bang” theory, but let’s consider this: How was the material for all the planets and stars created? Did the dirt, water, gases, oil and fire for the billions of trillions of planets and suns create itself?

Dirt, water, gases, oil and fire — the five primal elements! This is an impressive letter indeed. Moving along:

In order for there to be enough material, the vast expanse of it would have had to literally reach a fourth or a third of the way across the entire universe.

Yes, because such material occupies that much space in the universe. Why didn’t anyone think of this before? Let’s read on:

The evolutionists don’t say what caused the explosion that scattered this material untold miles, caused all fragments to be round, rotate around suns, spin and tilt, and hold themselves in these positions. Forget magnetism because magnetism either pulls objects directly to it or pushes it away. How is there enough metal in the earth or other planets to cause magnetism as we know it.

Jeepers! If it’s not magnetism, then what else is there? The letter continues:

Only a force so powerful that it covers heaven and earth could control what happens in this world and all the galaxies. But for this force, the universe’s planets would be slamming against each other like ping pong balls gone mad and us with them.

Thank God for the force! And now we come to the letter’s end:

If evolution is a random process then man is the result of a purposeless and natural process, an insignificant nothing with no purpose, the Ten Commandments on which our laws are founded mean nothing, death is all we have to look forward to.

[Writer’s name and city can be seen in the original.]

The significance of what you’ve read here can be life-changing — but only if you ponder it well, dear reader.

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16 responses to “Creationist Wisdom #165: The Force

  1. If evolution is a random process then man is the result of a purposeless and natural process, an insignificant nothing with no purpose, the Ten Commandments on which our laws are founded mean nothing, death is all we have to look forward to.

    If we were deliberately designed to be just a minor variant of an ape, then our purpose is to be just another ape, and we should be telling our kids to follow our designers’ intentions and act like apes.

    If our bodily makeup and history do not determine our purposes, but we must draw our purposes from elsewhere than naturalistic processes, then the fact that we are descended from other species has no more relevance than whether our great-grandfather was a horse thief, or that our genetic history involves chance.

    I don’t know why creationists think that ethics has a material basis.

  2. Some people should never attempt to write. None of the sentences makes any sense. I am always amazed at how merciful you are SC. Yes, you gave the letter lots of sarcasm, but you still pretended that the person was writing something kinda readable.

  3. gabo says:

    I am always amazed at how merciful you are SC.

    If you don’t approach this stuff with the right attitude, it’ll quickly drive you crazy. (In my case, it’s happening slowly.)

  4. Be gentle with the writer. It’s clearly another case of advanced mutational meltdown.

  5. There are already 24 comments at the newspaper. Several support the letter-writer.

  6. Ed says:

    It’s clearly another case of advanced mutational meltdown.

    A far worse scourge than even mesothelioma.

  7. Magnets. How do they work?

    No consequential metal in the core of the earth, is there? And no magnetic field (via dynamo) surrounding earth, is there?

    Compasses. How do they work?

    Not that magnetism has anything to do with the spherical earth.

    Gravity. Does it work?

  8. Gabriel Hanna

    Forget magnetism because magnetism either pulls objects directly to it or pushes it away.

    This is the exact opposite of what magnetism does. Magnetism pulls or pushes at right angles to a charged objects motion. This leads to the perfectly logical, yet surprising, conclusion that magnetic forces do no work. Yet magnets certainly seem to do work–for example, pick up a paper clearly with a magnet and you’ve clearly done work, with a magnet. However, the magnetic forces are not responsible for doing that work, and it can take a great deal of time and effort to show what exactly WAS responsible.

  9. Gabriel Hanna says:

    This leads to the perfectly logical, yet surprising, conclusion that magnetic forces do no work.

    Okay, I don’t mind admitting my ignorance if I can learn something, so I’ll bite. If I place a bit of iron on a table near a sufficiently strong magnet, it will traverse the distance to the magnet. Some kind of force moves that mass across that distance, and in my simple mind that means some kind of work is being done. Yeah, the force lines are perpendicular and all that stuff, but still, the mass is being moved. So what’s going on?

  10. Gabriel Hanna

    If I place a bit of iron on a table near a sufficiently strong magnet, it will traverse the distance to the magnet.

    Yes.

    Some kind of force moves that mass across that distance, and in my simple mind that means some kind of work is being done.

    Yes.

    Yeah, the force lines are perpendicular and all that stuff, but still, the mass is being moved. So what’s going on?

    It’s electric forces that are doing all the work, but in a very complicated way.

  11. The real question is why oh why do Creationists think that the cosmological Big Bange has anything to do with Biology and its so-called “Evolutionists” ?

  12. @SC:Bait & switch!

    That’s unfair. It IS too complicated to spell it out in detail, but think of it this way: a magnetic field can be turned into an electric field by changing your frame of reference. So in a sense they are equivalent. Think of two parallel wires with current flowing down them. The magnetic fields they generate cause them to repel, but if you move at the same velocity as the current, you see no magnetic field, just electric fields, and THEY are repelling the wires and doing the work. But it’s very simple to see them in that case, and very hard to see them when you were in a frame that had magentic fields.

  13. Guess what? I think that the “Force” that the writer seems to forget that completely fits the description is gravity! But evolution is not based on the gravitational force, though…

  14. the universe’s planets would be slamming against each other like ping pong balls gone mad and us with them.

    And we know that hasn’t happened because if it did, we’d see craters on the surface of the moon and earth?

    Good lord some folks are stupid.

  15. Yeah, Cathy. I thought it was funny that no one mentioned gravity in the comments for quite a while. The guy has little or no science education. Maybe he was sleeping in science class.