Evolution and Creationism Timelines Reconciled?

We found another genius promoting himself and his brilliance with a press release. Take a look at Timelines for Evolution and Creationism are Both True.

According to their “About Us” page, the promotional outfit posting that information is something called 24-7 Press Release, which tells us: “Launched in 2004, 24-7PressRelease.com is a leader in the online press release distribution industry.”

The genius who is taking advantage of their service is Michael Dow, and this is his website: Dow Creative Enterprises. His interests are many, including dieting, personal finance, skill development, leadership, and family activities. Clearly, Mr. Dow is a man of many talents.

Thanks to that informative press release, we can bring you some information about Dow’s latest intellectual accomplishment. Here are some excerpts, with bold font added by us.

Observational measurements of the universe place its age around 15 billion years old while a literal reading of the first book of the Hebrew and Christian bibles place the age of the universe at only around 6 thousand years. Surprisingly, one of the most confirmed theories of physics, Einstein’s Special Theory of Relativity, resolve this issue and allow both to be true.

You know where this is going, don’t you? Let’s read on:

Einstein’s equations show that the faster you move in uniform motion, time will be measured differently for you since the speed of light has to remain constant. For example, if there are twins born on earth and one is put on a space ship …

Yes, we know all about special relativity, time dilation, and the twin paradox. The press release continues:

In regards to our evolution and creationism timelines, God could have simply been moving so close to the speed of light during the creation that to Him, it was only 6 days. We can now calculate how fast He was moving by doing some algebra. [Skipping a paragraph of simple math.] … God was traveling at 299,792,457.99 meters/sec as He was creating everything which is why it was reported as being only 6 days because that’s how long it was for Him relative to an earth day and his speed.

Whoopie! Anyone — even your humble Curmudgeon — can use the Lorentz transformation to calculate how fast one must be moving with respect to a different frame of reference so that six days for him are 15 billion years in the other reference frame. Actually, Mr. Dow should have used 6,000 years and 15 billion years, but let’s not quibble.

So he computes that God was moving at almost the speed of light. Why not faster? Surely, God isn’t constrained by anything. Even if God were limited by the speed of light, He could have moved at light-speed itself, and then Genesis would inform us that creation was accomplished instantaneously.

But there are other problems in applying the Lorentz transformation to God and creation. We need two frames of reference that are in motion with respect to each other. At the moment of creation there was only one frame of reference — creation itself. Even if God — who is omnipresent — were a totally separate reference frame, somehow apart from creation, where was God going at almost the speed of light — somewhere away from creation? Where could that be?

The press release doesn’t discuss any of that. Here’s how it ends:

No wonder He wanted to take the seventh day to rest after moving so fast and doing so much! And we also see that even God worked according to the laws of universe.

That’s the deal, dear reader. Make of it what you will.

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19 responses to “Evolution and Creationism Timelines Reconciled?

  1. There are obviously many other problems with this idea, but one that comes to mind immediately is that if God is traveling at a constant speed during his six days and our 15 billion years, then his third day would have ended about 7.5 billion years ago. He created the earth (and it’s modern plant life) during that third day, so according to Mr. Dow’s Theory of Divine Relativity, the earth should be at least 7.5 billion years old. The sun, moon, stars, remaining planets, etc. are younger, at about 5 billion years of age. Swimming and flying creatures are around 2.5 bullion years old.

    I don’t think his theory completely resolves the differences between Genesis and modern science, but it certainly makes for an entertaining effort.

  2. Ed says: “There are obviously many other problems with this idea …”

    Yes, obviously. Poul Anderson handled it better in Tau Zero. His guys were in a ship that was, I think, orbiting the universe at virtually lightspeed. They watched it collapse (which was predicted back when the novel was written) and then a new one start up, in which they settled on a habitable planet. At least they had their own reference frame. But at that speed, they weren’t in any position to pause from time to time so they could create fish and plants and Adam & Eve.

  3. The idea of reconciling the Biblical account with the scientific one by stretching out the days goes back to the 19th century (a variation on the “day-age” interpretation) and I’ve seen it brought up fairly often. (I’ve also seen references to special relativity to back up the “day-age” interpretation.) I’ve even seen people doing probability calculations to demonstrate how improbable it is that there would be such a match “by chance”.

    The major problems that I’ve seen with this, without getting into serious discussions of relativity are:

    1. The sequence of creations differs in major ways from the modern scientific sequence. They can’t both be correct. For example, aquatic animals (fish) and flying animals (birds) both appear in the Bible before land animals; while birds (as well as flying insects and bats) evolved after the first land animals. And the sun, moon, and stars appear in the Bible only on day 4, after the earth and plants. (Although there are old ways of explaining away the late appearance of the sun. The ancients weren’t oblivious to the problems of having the passage of days without a sun.)

    2. The majority of life forms, namely the microbes (bacteria, archaea and many eukaryotes – and don’t forget internal parasites and symbionts, which are not land, water, or air dwellers) are never mentioned in the Bible. Nor are the fungi (although it’s fair to say that the Bible would include visible fungi under the plants). Nor are the several major extinction events that occurred before the appearance of humans (according to science, and we’re talking about reconciling science with the Bible).

  4. God was traveling at 299,792,457.99 meters/sec as He was creating everything

    Except that the speed of light requires a definition of “meter” and “second”. And if we’re going down this road, then the speed of light is, with the current definition of “meter” and “second”, defined as 299,792,458 meters/sec exactly. Not .99 or .999 or .9999. Exactly. Guess God was running a little slow at that time.

  5. Gary says:

    Except that the speed of light requires a definition of “meter” and “second”.

    Only if you’re going to describe it in those units. Where I come from it’s 69 Aaaargh per Zowie. But it’s still the same speed.

  6. Oh, good grief! Really? Really?????

  7. SC said:

    Where I come from it’s 69 Aaaargh per Zowie. But it’s still the same speed.

    I just laughed so hard I snorted Mt Dew into my nose.
    Ow, that hurts!

  8. comradebillyboy

    There are things man was never meant to understand. Christianity is, in essence, a mystery cult.

  9. Just came across this on the web where someone is promoting the agreement between the six “phases” of the Bible and cosmology:

    Hawking vs. God an Unequal Contest

  10. TomS says: “Just came across this on the web …”

    Not only does that guy presume to challenge Hawking — a clear signal that his mind in the final stage of collapse — but his last paragraph is one creationist cliche after another. He must be a local intellectual, so the paper published him.

  11. Curmudgeon: “Make of it what you will.”

    The only thing to make of it is that he pretends that the issue is between “creationism” and “evolution,” (and most of us take the bait) when the issue is entirely within “creationism.” Unless he devotes “equal time” to challenging OECs who think he’s as nuts as we do, he can be reasonably suspected of making stuff up to pander to YECs.

  12. Curmudgeon: “..but his last paragraph is one creationist cliche after another. He must be a local intellectual, so the paper published him.”

    Check the comment I left at his site. Not sure what the Discoveroids will hate more, his equating of ID with creationism, or my “thanking” him for it.

  13. None of the comments support the guy.

  14. …. where was God going at almost the speed of light — somewhere away from creation?

    “The Restaurant at the End of the Universe” …..

  15. retiredsciguy

    SC: “Even if God — who is omnipresent — were a totally separate reference frame… where was God going at almost the speed of light …?”

    If God were omnipresent, how could He be going anywhere? He’d already be there.

    Related question — has it finally been determined how many angels can dance on the head of a pin?

  16. retiredsciguy asks:

    … has it finally been determined how many angels can dance on the head of a pin?

    You know my answer to all mathematical questions. Yes, that’s how many.

  17. Related question — has it finally been determined how many angels can dance on the head of a pin?

    It depends: union angels or free-market angels?

    😉

  18. Herman Cummings

    Hi.

    This “genius” is no expert with the Genesis text. Only the foolishess of Creation Science declares the literal reading of Genesis to yield 6 – 10,000 years ago for the time period of CreationWeek. Genesis advocates 4+ billion years in the past for Creation Week (7 days), and 64 million years ago for mankind (in his present likeness).

    Herman Cummings
    ephraim7@aol.com

  19. Hi, Herman. You’re the only Genesis expert we know of.