Jason Lisle: Instant Starlight & the Lake of Fire

We found two new articles by Jason Lisle, Ph.D. Jason is the creationist astrophysicist who functions as a retained servitor, credentialed and compliant, employed by the ever-growing creationist conglomerate of Ken Ham (ol’ Hambo). Hambo is the Australian entrepreneur who has become the ayatollah of Appalachia. He runs the online creationist ministry, Answers in Genesis (AIG), and he also created the infamous, mind-boggling Creation Museum. He is now promoting a new project — a Noah’s Ark theme park named Ark Encounter.

One of Jason’s latest articles is familiar material that we’ve posted about before — his solution to the Distant Starlight problem. The problem — for young-earth creationists — is that the light we see from distant sources required literally billions of years to reach earth, yet the creationist’s universe is only 6,000 years old. Jason’s “new” article is titled Distant Starlight: The Anisotropic Synchrony Convention, and it appears in a recent issue of Hambo’s magazine, Answers. That’s a different publication from AIG’s “research journal” where Jason’s paper was originally published.

The new piece is little more than a verbose and watered-down re-telling of what we’ve already discussed in posts like Jason Lisle’s “Instant Starlight” Paper, and then Jason Lisle’s “Instant Starlight” Paper, Again, and then still more, and after that there was one more time (which didn’t generate many comments). We’re mentioning this “new” item in Answers only so that if any of you still want to talk about it, this is your opportunity.

Jason’s second article is God’s Law: What it is Not. This one is spectacularly odd, but you may find it interesting to see how Jason uses his astrophysics degree in the service of creationism. Here are some excerpts, with scripture references omitted and bold font added by us:

God is absolutely perfect, and His standard for us is absolute, perfect obedience.

Your Curmudgeon must also be perfect, because we too demand absolute obedience. Let’s read on:

[I]f you think you can be righteous in the eyes of God by “doing good” then you are horribly mistaken. None of us is good enough for God’s perfect standard.

Your Curmudgeon is a better master. We accept 98% performance from those who serve us. Jason continues:

If you are trusting in your own good deeds to earn your place in heaven, you will not see heaven. Salvation from hell cannot be earned.

There’s yet another reason to choose the Curmudgeon as your master. We can’t promise heaven or hell, but if you serve us well, we’re easy to get along with. Here’s more from Jason:

Every person on earth will either (1) receive Christ as Lord, thereby receiving forgiveness of sins by Christ’s payment on the Cross, or (2) pay for his or her own sins eternally in the lake of fire.

Maybe so, but who needs to hear this from a creationist astrophysicist? If you’re interested, click over to AIG and read it all. The article is a long one, but if you like what you’ve seen here, you’ll find that it’s more of the same.

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12 responses to “Jason Lisle: Instant Starlight & the Lake of Fire

  1. Um, God demands absolute and perfect obedience? I’ve never violated the Law of Gravity, and I’m told that I promote the increase of entropy. How am I doing?

  2. MontyMoose

    >We accept 98% performance<

    And for the clowns in Austin and Washington DC, anything above 40% is reason for me to celebrate.

  3. Gabriel Hanna

    I’ve never violated the Law of Gravity, and I’m told that I promote the increase of entropy. How am I doing?

    Huh. I warp time and space in my vicinity.

  4. I am a Theist, and therefore agree with some of what Lisle says, although I suspect our personal theologies would differ greatly. That said, it appears to me that in most of his writings, rather than saying salvation can’t be earned, he’s saying the opposite: that salvation can indeed be earned, but only if one espouses his particular brand of creationism — id — whatever the current term is. Now, I have to go and read the starlight article.

  5. Ellie says:

    I am a Theist, and therefore agree with some of what Lisle says, although I suspect our personal theologies would differ greatly.

    He’s not wrong 100% of the time about everything. But I think he’s wrong most of the time about things I know; so I don’t take him seriously about anything else.

  6. SC said:

    Your Curmudgeon is a better master. We accept 98% performance from those who serve us.

    Do you round up? Can I be a 97.5% performer and still be within specs?

  7. Gary asks: “Do you round up? Can I be a 97.5% performer and still be within specs?”

    Bad attitude. Strive for 100%

  8. And for the clowns in Austin

    I *hope* you’re not talkin’ about ME.

  9. Lisle’s biggest problem, as with all creationists, is that he doesn’t deal in what is provable or falsifiable, but looks at all science through the beer goggles of his faith.

  10. Ellie: it appears to me that in most of his writings, rather than saying salvation can’t be earned, he’s saying the opposite: that salvation can indeed be earned, but only if one espouses his particular brand of creationism

    That’s the way it appears to me too. After going on and on about good deeds not getting one into heaven, he proclaims that the good deed of receiving Jesus gets you into heaven. Its like that self-help guru from the early Simpsons episode: ” There’s no trick to it, it’s just a simple trick!”

  11. Jason Lisle: “Every person on earth will either (1) receive Christ as Lord, thereby receiving forgiveness of sins by Christ’s payment on the Cross, or (2) pay for his or her own sins eternally in the lake of fire.”

    I usually don’t pay much attention to the truly loony science-deniers, but I’m dying to hear Lisle admit that he thinks that David Klinghoffer, creationism’s ultimate spokesman, will be uncomfortably warm for a long time.

  12. Calvinists. The life of the party.