Ken Ham Disciple Exposes NASA’s Godless Lies

We found an absolutely glorious article by Ken Ham (ol’ Hambo), the Australian entrepreneur who has become the ayatollah of Appalachia. He runs the online creationist ministry, Answers in Genesis (AIG), and he also created the infamous, mind-boggling Creation Museum.

The title of ol’ Hambo’s latest is Nine Year Old Challenges NASA. We’ll give you some excerpts, with bold font added by us, but first you need to see what Hambo wrote near the end:

Each time I give examples in my blog posts of children who have been influenced by AiG, the atheists go ballistic on their blogs.

We don’t know what the atheist blogs will do, but we’re going to play this straight. He begins like this:

I received a letter from a nine-year-old girl who has been brought up on AiG resources. She the following wrote to me:

“She the following wrote to me”? That’s what Hambo said. Anyway, we know you can’t wait for the little girl’s letter, so here it is:

I went to a NASA display of a moon rock and a lady said, “This Moon-rock is 3.75 billion years old!” Guess what I asked for the first time ever?

“Um, may I ask a question?”

And she said, “Of course.”

I said, in my most polite voice, “Were you there?”

Love, Emma B

Stunning, huh? NASA is undoubtedly reeling in chaos. Let’s read on from Hambo’s article:

Emma’s Mom wrote a letter to us with more information:

[From the kid’s mother:] Actually, Emma, age 9, asked a bit more, but I just copied what she typed for you. She was VERY excited to share it with you, since she’s been blessed to hear your teachings through your kids DVDs and Kids Answers.

[…]

Emma proceeded to answer that she thought the moon rock was probably around 6,000 years old, after the presenter asked her how old she thought it was then since she didn’t believe it was 3.75 billion years old? Then the rep asked Emma how she came up with that? Emma answered, “The Bible. If the earth was made around the same time as the moon, wouldn’t they be the same age?” Emma answered.

There’s more in Hambo’s article, including photos. The little kid is proud of herself, the kid’s mother is very proud of her child, and ol’ Hambo is thrilled. He wraps it up with this:

Praise the Lord, Emma has such a strong foundation in God’s Word and won’t fall for the atheist lies in their attempts to shake their fist at their creator God.

We won’t fulfill Hambo’s prophesy by going ballistic about this. It’s sufficient merely to tell the tale. What you make of it, dear reader, is up to you.

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34 responses to “Ken Ham Disciple Exposes NASA’s Godless Lies

  1. How long will it take for Hambo to have his hands in the kid’s Hello Kitty pocketbook, shaking her down for her lunch money and Jonas Brothers MP3 allowance?

  2. So Ham accuses NASA of telling “atheist lies in their attempts to shake their fist at their creator God?” HaHaHaHa. He’s probably jealous of his NASA namesake, Ham the chimp, who had a much more interesting career involving a pioneering spaceflight, and appearances on television and in the movies. Ham the chimp contributed to the advancement of humankind, whereas Ham the ape has not.

    I feel sorry for the little girl. It should have inspired wonder in her to touch something so old, and from the moon, and yet she has been inoculated against wonder by the lies of Ham and his ilk.

    Oh, and Ham – atheists don’t shake their fists at things that don’t exist. That’s a uniquely religious practice.

  3. Arrrrghhhh!
    (an atheist going ballistic)

    Poor kid.

  4. Well, there goes our access to forensic knowledge. I guess you just had to be there.

  5. I wonder how old Emma’s dad is according to the bible? She couldn’t possibly know and has no possible way of knowing if it ain’t in scripture because when he was born she wasn’t there.

    And Emma’s mom is proud that ol’ Hambo has helped promote this kind of broken thinking.

    Good grief.

  6. “Yes, I was there. It’s 3.75 billion years old.”
    “Nuh uh! You aren’t 3.75 billion years old!”
    “How do you know? Were you there?

  7. @eric:

    excellent argument.

    I feel sorry for little Emma. She’ll be shocked someday if she ever sees the light and wakes up from the delusion she’s been taught to believe. I hope she doesn’t fall too hard. I’ve had friends who really had a rough time when the truth became apparent to them.

  8. eric says: “Yes, I was there. It’s 3.75 billion years old.”

    How peculiar. I was there, but I don’t remember seeing you..

  9. @Eric Or even more simply, upon Emma’s statement that it the rock is 6,00 years old, one could simply ask: “Were you there?”

  10. Or even more simply, upon Emma’s statement that it the rock is 6,00 years old, one could simply ask: “Were you there?”

    It serves no purpose to poke fun at the logic of a 9-year-old. She’s too young to understand that she’s being brainwashed. It’s okay to be ignorant at her age – society has a cure for that. The girl’s mother, however, should be ashamed of herself. There’s no excuse for her patronizing attitude.

    Actually, the whole thing reads like that Jack T. Chick tract where the clean-cut young Christian student reduces his smug “Darwinist”/atheist professor into a frustrated, babbling idiot – with a few witty parries (and some fully-illustrated presentation graphs that he just happens to be carrying on his person.)

  11. For the record, I wasn’t poking fun at a 9-year-old, I was trying to poke fun at the argument itself. My point was that is is self-refuting and suffers from a problem of internal contradiction; nobody was there to say who was there, so it ultimately leads to a negation of anything outside direct experience.

    But mapgie, IMO you’re being a bit overly critical. The argument she used is not ‘the logic of a 9-year-old.’ Its the logic of a large religious organization composed of adults, merely presented in this case by a 9-year-old.

  12. Yeah, you’re probably right, Eric. It’s a little too pat, anyway. I wouldn’t be surprised if the whole “story” was phony, made up by Ken Ham’s publicity department – with an eye toward donations, as usual.

  13. NatteringNabob

    With some training, little Emma may be able to run the cash register at Bojangles when she gets big.

  14. Well, that’s more than Ken Ham could manage. If anyone is foolish enough to trust him around a cash register, that is.

  15. The Earth is 4.5 billion years old and the Moon is 3.75 billion years old. I know, because I am an immortal alien from Alpha Centauri and I was there observing when it happened. Let ol’Hambo disprove that!!!

  16. I don’t believe I would be “poking fun” to respond to Emma in such a manner. I’d merely be showing her that the logic that she has been taught to espouse works both ways. Kids aren’t stupid and shouldn’t be treated as such; it might just teach her to truly think about what she’s being told rather than spewing it everywhere like a hose of retardation.

  17. I would just like to assure everyone that not all hope is lost for the next generation. There are many families out there who are managing to raise their children with a love for science and logic.

  18. Good to hear, Caleb.

  19. How peculiar. I was there, but I don’t remember seeing you..

    It is a large moon, after all.

  20. It’s a bad moon. It’s on the rise.

    And in other news, there’s a bathroom on the right.

  21. Don’t go out tonight, or it’s bound to take your life.
    BTW, is the bathroom busy?

  22. cnocspeireag

    Doc Bill, that was splendid: we must be of a not too dissimilar age.
    Speaking of an age just before mine, crooks who made a dishonest living by selling suspect goods in the time of post WW2 rationing were called ‘spivs’ in the UK. This dates from the nineteen fifties. You describe Hambo as an ‘entrepreneur’, but isn’t he better described as a ‘spiv’?
    I can just see him opening a voluminous jacket with his texts fixed into the lining ” psst.. wanna buy some stupid lies cheap”?

  23. He’s a huckster.

  24. I am probably old enough to introduce my guest at dinner as my “niece.”

  25. Thanks, John Pieret. PZ did well with that.

  26. @boyhollow and @eric:
    Someone named JamesM posted this on PZ Myers’ blog:

    The line in Emma’s letter to Ken Ham that bothers me the most is:
    “I said, in my most polite voice, “Were you there?”
    To even ask the question “Were you there?” in this context is intrinsically impolite, no matter what voice she used to ask it, and it was clearly intended to be impolite. It is not a genuine question (as PZ points out) because the person asking the question knows the answer. Rather, it is a rhetorical question, meant as an attempt to ridicule and undermine the authority of the educator…

    On second thought, I withdraw my criticism re: poking fun at the logic of a 9-year-old. JamesM in quite correct, or course. Emma is being encouraged to be smug and condescending and discourteous and uninformed, by adults who should know better. Nine is an impressionable age. Emma will be ill-served by her teachers and other adult role models if they fail to point this out soon.

  27. I was just coming here to post about PZ’s wonderful letter to Emma. Already handled by the great commenters here.

    “And in other news, there’s a bathroom on the right.”
    Thanks Doc Bill for that much needed laugh. That’s my favorite imaginary song lyric.

  28. @magpie61 I’m afraid Emma’s teachers would appear to be her parents, or maybe even just her mum, judging by the logo on Emma’s t-shirt. I feel very sorry for her.

  29. @magpie61 No need to withdraw your criticism. It was valid. That’s what’s beautiful about thinkers. We, as thoughtful adults, can all redraw and discuss our lines in the sand as we recognize the validity of others’ statement contra to ours – rather than fox-holing ourselves to hold an untenable position out of stubbornness. I applaud your initial post because it made me question mine and find REAL reasons why I believed it beyond my gut reaction. This is the dialogue of thought, and this world would be far better if we respected and allowed such discourse rather than vilified it as seditious in nature. I didn’t win with my post, yours worked with mine to make a better overall statement.

  30. You might want to look at the RationalWiki article:

  31. I find it rather disheartening after reading the part of the letter from Emma’s mom where she just dismisses the scientist’s rebuttal. “Scientists have proven this…yada, yada, yada, blah, blah….”

  32. I said, in my most polite voice, “Were you there?”

    I saw a documentary more than a few years back where Ham was teaching this line to young kids at a Church presentation, so this is no accident; he’s been indoctrinating kids with this garbage for many years. The fact that this rhetorical question applies equally as well to his own religion doesn’t seem to occur to him or bother him, so focused is he on the anti-evolution racket. Ham and his fans think in terms of argument from authority, so in their minds The Bible = God, and God > science. Forensic arguments don’t cut it; it’s all down to argument from authority.