AIG Lashes Out at Doonesbury

Doonesbury

Last week we posted Doonesbury Does Darwin about a delightful cartoon by Gary Trudeau that mocked the creationism mess in Louisiana. We assumed it would enrage the creationists, and of course it did.

We present to you, dear reader, the viewpoint from Answers in Genesis (AIG), one of the major sources of young-earth creationist wisdom. What we found is in AIG’s News to Note, July 16, 2011 — “A weekly feature examining news from the biblical viewpoint.”

It’s the lead item at their news summary, titled Doonesbury drips with twisted information. They even provide a convenient link to the Doonesbury cartoon. It’s a long and venomous screed, so we’ll give you only a few excerpts. This is definitely something you’ll want to read in its entirety. Here we go, with bold font added by us:

Last Sunday’s funnies featured a Doonesbury cartoon designed to shape public opinion with a creative but distorted comic dialogue. Misinformation which can lead people to laugh their way into decisions with disastrous eternal consequences is not funny.

A comic strip can have “disastrous eternal consequences.” This is fantastic! Let’s read on:

The fairy tale of evolution lacks testable scientific evidence to support its contentions that organisms acquired genetic information to become new kinds of organisms by accumulating information-losing mutations over millions of years. Such an idea makes as much sense as expecting a business which loses money on every sale to profit by making up the loss in volume!

AIG has a firm grip on the situation. We continue:

The assertion that the “alternative theory” offered by creationists is “supported by no scientific evidence whatsoever” is false. The biblical account of Creation and the global Flood explains genetics, the fossil record, and the results of sin’s curse on this world. What we see in today’s world is consistent with what we read in God’s Word.

No, it isn’t. That was true in ancient Babylon, where the only observational instrument available to scripture-writers was the naked eye — a rudimentary product of evolution. But by using today’s scientific instruments (telescopes, microscopes, radiation counters, satellite cameras, etc.) we see considerably more than was known in the Bronze Age. Here’s more:

The teacher [in the comic strip] also failed to do his homework about the Ark. Noah took air-breathing animals on board, not microbes. Microbes didn’t need Noah’s help to survive the Flood. But dinosaurs were on the Ark. Neither Noah nor God forgot.

It’s good to see an expert on Noah’s Ark taking the trouble to correct a comic strip about such vital details. Moving along:

The comic ends with a student’s plaintive interruption, “Please stop. I’d like to get into a good college.” But teaching evolutionary ideas as indisputable facts is indoctrination. Why should the scientific problems with those ideas be concealed from students?

Lordy, lordy! Gotta love those guys at AIG. What would we blog about without them?

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24 responses to “AIG Lashes Out at Doonesbury

  1. Misinformation which can lead people to laugh their way into decisions with disastrous eternal consequences is not funny.

    Depends on how you phrase it. The way that AIG phrases it is typically very funny, very funny indeed. What’s even funnier is that the way AIG phrases it would make one misunderstand how the world really works, which would lead to bad decisions in biology, astronomy, medicine, and a whole host of other fields. Which, as they say, could have “disastrous eternal consequences”. Or at least long enough until people come to their senses and listen to real scientists.

  2. John E. D. P. Malin

    Zack, Brought this link to my attention this afternoon. Since I also live in Louisiana (27 years), I can attest to the general mental ignorance of our people. 80% of Louisianians read at the 3rd grade level, if indeed, they can read at all. I admire your wit in capturing the delightful stupidity and ignorance of AIG!

  3. Shoot, the “News to Note” page this week is funny from beginning to end – read their explanation of the K-T boundary and a recent fossil found near that level for the old dinosaurs running from the flood account.

    Ham criticizes the “genocide” comment in the cartoon by saying: God liked “His own handiwork” just fine. Rebellious human beings wrecked this world. God as Creator was justified in destroying a wicked world, yet He made a way of salvation available to all who would take it. Only Noah’s family did.

    I beg to differ, Hambo.

    Nowhere in the bible – nowhere – is there any mention of God giving anyone except Noah and his family and opportunity for “salvation” from the flood. It’s not there, Ham. It was genocide, pure and simple. There is no mention of God doing anything at all to warn humans to reform themselves, or considering a plague or something that would only kill the humans. Nope – he just gets disappointed with his creation and destroys it. In fact, there is no lead-up in the bible explaining what it was that humans were doing that was evil, the preceding verses just name generations from Adam to Noah, happy times with God’s sons marrying human women and having children with them, and a mention of Nephilim (a.k.a Titans) being in the world. That’s it. Then, without warning God is angry. Literally, all of a sudden, he’s unhappy, and he decides to wipe it all away. That included his own grandchildren, born of human women to his sons. Somehow, this is not monstrous? Billions of animals destroyed, and Ham wants to build a park to celebrate it?

    When Ham defends the Ark story, sometimes he’s just creepy.

  4. John E. D. P. Malin says: “Zack, Brought this link to my attention this afternoon.”

    Yes, he’s got something about it on Twitter. I’m getting hits from there, but I don’t have a Twitter account to see what’s going on. I know something of Louisiana because my father’s family is from there. But hey … they’re happy!

  5. Curmudgeons: “What would we blog about without them?”

    Discoveroids, for one. Have they commented yet, or are they muzzling themselsves in another pathetic attempt to “distance” ID from YEC?

  6. Nothing yet from the Discoveroids. But it’ll happen.

  7. I’m not sure that the Flood story is a clear cut case of genocide, but the Book of Joshua contains little in it but genocide–genocide ordered by God, with divine punishments for those who didn’t engage in it enthusiastically enough.

    The rejoinder is invariably about eradicating child sacrifice in Canaan–but if it was so important to eradicate the murder of children to appease gods, then why did God order the Israelites to murder the Canaanite children along with their parents?

  8. Gabe: Thats just the loving God of scripture. I guess he was calling all those children home.

    I think I agree with PZ. It’s a death cult.

  9. Hey Curmudgeon, you should get a twitter, it is the epitome of narcissism, but it is extremely useful for affecting public opinion.

  10. Hey, Zack! Way to go! You’ve been immortalized in Doonesbury!

  11. If AiG foolishly decides to engage in a spitting contest with Mr Trudeau – or even better, a battle of wits – all it’ll accomplish will be to provide lots more creationist comedy finding its way into Doonesbury. (As if I didn’t hope…)
    Also, I’m profoundly sorry to read what J.E.D.P.M. had to say about Louisianians. I’ve never been there. I hope he’s exaggerating.

  12. Most of the bible is about killing for god. there’s even a part where god orders an Israelite to enter a tent and slaughter another Israelite who was sleeping with a member of another religion. It then goes on to describe just how this Israelite killed these two with his spear. I can’t for the life of me remember where this passage is though…

  13. Calleb
    “It then goes on to describe just how this Israelite killed these two with his spear. I can’t for the life of me remember where this passage is though…”

    I believe the passage is Numbers 25:1-9

  14. The real test of whether one is dealing with an extremist is humor: it always makes them utterly mad when one pokes fun at them.
    I often play Randy Newman’s song in which he makes fun at people for doggedly going back to their belief in him, in spite of his utter disgust for them: “I take away your children and you say how blessed are we?”
    A powerful cynical approach to all mortals trying to find a reason for their existence outside themselves. Never understood this.
    Cheers,
    Elsie

  15. @Anonymous: Yes, thank you that’s it. It was my torah portion for my bar mitzvah, but it was several years ago…

  16. Interesting passage, Caleb. It begins (Numbers 25:1):

    And Israel abode in Shittim, and the people began to commit whoredom with the daughters of Moab.

  17. The real test of whether one is dealing with an extremist is humor: it always makes them utterly mad when one pokes fun at them.

    Yeah, that seems to be the acid test. It’s usually a dead giveaway. They never seem to have any answer or defense for that.

    “If you stand on a soapbox and trade rhetoric with a dictator you never win…That’s what they do so well: they seduce people. But if you ridicule them, bring them down with laughter, they can’t win. You show how crazy they are.”
    —Mel Brooks, discussing The Producers in an August 2001 interview

  18. susanbellnc

    I don’t understand how creationism can legally be taught in a public school. But, the best thing I ever read about the whole issue said “you can teach creationism in my schools when you let me teach evolution in your church.” Works for me.

  19. Every living thing on the face of the earth was wiped out; men and animals and the creatures that move along the ground and the birds of the air were wiped from the earth. Only Noah was left, and those with him in the ark. Genesis 7:23. Wonder how old Hambo got the idea that microbes were somehow spared since they would qualify as one of the “every living thing on the face of the earth.” Also wonder – what about all of those plants?

  20. “But dinosaurs were on the Ark. Neither Noah nor God forgot.”

    …but they *did* forget the unicorn…we have the full accounting of it in the Book of Rovers: Irish 9:32-38

  21. @Douglas E

    Genesis 7:22 “All in whose nostrils was the breath of life … died.”

    The contradictions in the Genesis story give the interpreter freedom.

  22. @Mary

    I remember that big hit of 1968. By that time (8th grade) I had dismissed scriptural accounts as allegorical, but apparently the transition was not complete, becuase I vaguely recall asking if that was true about the unicorns. I was told (I long forgot by whom) that, not only was the story ficticious, that so were unicorns. It was slighly disappointing to let go of a cool sensationalist story, but I had already begun to understand the importance of evidence. Unfortunately it took another 30 years to fully grasp the double-standard of evidence (you must show me an infinite amount, I need to show you none) used by science-deniers.

  23. Tom S – true, but I presumed that those with nostrils was a subset of all living things. Regardless, I remain amazed that Hambo has it all figured out 🙂

  24. Tomato Addict

    >”Lordy, lordy! Gotta love those guys at AIG. What would we blog about without them?”

    Global warming, anti-vacc’ers, homeopathy, politics, … Twilight? 😉