AIG: There Were Dragons on Noah’s Ark

This is a brief one from Answers in Genesis (AIG), which is part of the creationist empire of Ken Ham (ol’ Hambo), along with the infamous, mind-boggling Creation Museum.

AIG’s article is Dragon Legends: Truths Behind the Tales. There’s not much to it, but it’s great creationism. Here we go, with bold font added by us and scripture references omitted:

In the book of Job, God describes a behemoth and a fire-breathing leviathan.

Those are interesting passages. We’ll skip the behemoth; he’s in Job: 40. Here’s a sample of passages about the fire-breathing leviathan, from Job:41, King James Version:

1 — Canst thou draw out leviathan with an hook?
2 — or his tongue with a cord which thou lettest down?
14 — Who can open the doors of his face? his teeth are terrible round about.
15 — His scales are his pride, shut up together as with a close seal.
19 — Out of his mouth go burning lamps, and sparks of fire leap out.
20 –Out of his nostrils goeth smoke, as out of a seething pot or caldron.
21 — His breath kindleth coals, and a flame goeth out of his mouth.

That’s what it says in the Good Book. Let’s read on from AIG:

These creatures are unlike anything we find today. Is it possible these dragons refer to dinosaurs and other reptile-like creatures of the air and sea?

Powerful questions! What’s the answer? AIG continues:

Dragons appear again and again in the records of cultures around the world, as well as in their art and pottery.

Oooooooh — evidence! Here’s more:

The similarities are hints that many accounts may be based on actual encounters with these creatures—dinosaurs and other reptiles which God created on Day Five and Six and which survived the Flood aboard Noah’s Ark.

Yes — it all fits together! They’ve made their case. Here’s the conclusion:

Dragons may not be around today for the same reasons that other animals go extinct — changes in environment, food issues, hunting by man. Let’s face it, most legends end with a dragon’s death. But their memory lives on.

At the end of the article is a listing of various dragon legends from around the world. Gotta give those AIG boys credit — they show you their data!

But we’re left with a lot of sympathy for Noah’s wife. That poor woman not only had to scrub out the animal pens each day — for millions of animals — she also had to be careful about dragon flames, which might have set her hair afire.

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16 responses to “AIG: There Were Dragons on Noah’s Ark

  1. He also believes in unicorns because they’re in the Bible. I don’t know if they were pink, though.

  2. Fire Breathing Dragon + Wooden Boat* = someone didn’t do this math very well.

    * Wood that was cut from trees in a land where it never rained (according to some).

  3. Not truth – Fabrications. Distorting mythical dragon legends by cherry picking certain parts of an anatomy of a dragon creationists think fits dinosaurs while throwing out the rest that didn’t fit dinosaurs in a desperate attempt to make their idiot case for dinosaurs living with humans – a concept solely an invention of Hollywood and science fiction writers.

  4. Leviathan is Tiamat, a Babylonian chaos goddess overthrown by Marduk the sky god. The parallels with the Bible are obvious.

  5. Gabriel Hanna says: “Leviathan is Tiamat, a Babylonian chaos goddess”

    Blasphemy! Leviathan refers to the Khalkotauroi of Greek mythology.

  6. The Leviathan was a sea monster, so maybe your Khalkotauroi would be over in the Behemoth pasture. A sea creature that breathes smoke… it doesn’t sound like a sea-going dinosaur but more like a garbled interpretation of a spouting whale, with the flaming bits added as an afterthought.

  7. Personally, I think the Creationists really jumped the ichthyosaur by trying to work dinosaurs into their cosmology. Part of it is that people tend to think of the world of Genesis as some kind of early version of presentday Israel, reinforced by memories of all those beautiful color paintings illustrating children’s storybook retellings of Bible stories found in dentists’ office waiting rooms. It’s a comfortable, familiar world of ancient Hebrews herding sheep in the desert, with tents, caravans, and an occasional city loooking like ancient Jerusalem or maybe Babylon. Animals are the familiar Middle Eastern kinds, like sheep, goats, and camels. It’s a picture almost as familiar as your memory of the town you grew up in. But wait — somebody is now telling you that there were dinosaurs there, too! Which somehow nobody ever seems to have noticed before. The absurdity is just too much for anyone outside the cult to accept, and makes Creationists who claim to believe look like fanatic fools.

  8. While the idea of humans living with dinosaurs is insanely awesome, it is sadly untrue. I agree that a smoke breathing sea monster sounds an awful lot like a spouting whale, with the assumption being made that where there is (something that looks like) smoke, there’s fire. As for behemoth: well, let’s say you were one of the scribes who was writing the bible, and the largest animal you’d ever seen was cow. Then, let’s say, some foreigners from the south come to town with an elephant. You’d be shocked and amazed by the giant beast. True, elephants would later be used by ancients Jews in war, but before then, they could easily mistake it for some kind of mystical creature. But I’m geussing that it’s only a matter of time before the creationists begin to claim that the third monster usually associated with leviathan and behemoth, ziz (a giant bird), was a pterosaur.

  9. There you all go again. All these “facts” — not to mention this “reasoning” thing everyone’s hung up on — are starting to really clutter up Ham’s perfect, hermetically-sealed worldview. Please, a little consideration for the man. If he was good with that stuff, he wouldn’t be where he is now.

  10. One has to wonder what a dragon sneeze would have done with all that methane buildup in the bowels of the ark. (“Stoopid dragon!)

  11. Fascinating. Job 40 is a creation account — notice in how many ways it differs from either Genesis account, either Genesis 1 or Genesis 2.

    Interesting that AIG would do such damage to a creation account, in essence calling God a liar (it’s God’s recounting of the creation to Job in that story — remembering His tremendous struggle with Tiamat, in which he emerged victorious), merely to preserve their tortured views of history that are, after all, completely extra-Biblical. Creationism turns creationists against God and the Bible in its quest to dominate thinking. Dangerous stuff!

  12. Ham’s depiction of dinosaurs on the ark is pure marketing. It draws in the kids who would be bored otherwise.

    Ham could be consistent with the bible creation story while assuming that all extinct / fossilized life forms died out during the period between the creation and the flood. Rather than taking that easier path, Ham chose to deal with the logical difficulties inherent in his re-imagination of the biblical flood story by requiring Noah and his family to house and feeding a pair of every land creature that ever lived on their hand-built wooden boat. Either he is obsessed with the book Dinotopia, or he did it so he could create dinosaur displays for the museum and the ark park. The is certainly no biblical requirement for Dino’s on the ark.

  13. Speaking of Dinotopia, in one of Ham’s idiot books, there were a group of people leaving what it supposed to be The Tower of Babel. Guess what’s pulling the wagons and giving humans rides the same way Dinotopian dinosaurs have been pulling wagons and giving humans rides in James Hurney’s books? Wanna bet that such scenes depicted in Ham’s idiot drivels along with Buddy Davis baby Triceratops models with a saddle on its back is a direct result of Ham and Davis borrowing from Gurney’s fantasy series?

  14. Ed says: “The is certainly no biblical requirement for Dino’s on the ark.”

    Maybe not (was Job pre-Flood or post-Flood?) but unless the dragons and such survived the Flood, there’d be no way to cite the legends and myths of other cultures as “evidence” for their existence. I donno — it isn’t easy weaving a bunch of incoherent stuff into a defensible history.

  15. You forgot the map. Maps with locations shown. Maps are the most credible type of data. I just can’t figure out why they didn’t show a map of Middle Earth. Wasn’t there a dragon there on the Lonely Mountain or something like that? More data to bolster their claims.

    On a side-note, I always feel guilty clicking on your links, as I help inflate the page hits they see on the other side. I suppose it’s a no-win situation since if they didn’t see all the people coming to their site to ‘read’ it, they might stop, and thus the fun here would stop as well…

  16. I’m willing to grant that AiG is sort of half right about this. Dinosaurs may actually have inspired the legends of dinosaurs. But as fossils. Fossils have been known since the earliest of ancient times, and it wouldn’t take too much imagination to believe that the living relatives of some monstrous bones are around somewhere. A further problem for the Ham bunch, though, is the fact that dinosaur fossils aren’t found in the eastern Mediterranean area around Israel and Greece. Bones of Ice Age mammals like mammoths, mastodons, extinct forms of giraffes and rhinos, yes, but not dinosaurs. (A skull supposed since the Middle Ages to be a dragon in Klagenfurt, Austria turned out to be a wooly rhinoceros…) If Ham’s ancient Hebrew version of the Dinotopia fantasy were at all factual, shouldn’t there be lots of relatively fresh dinosaur bones lying around in the Near East?