Curmudgeon’s Creative Challenge #4

Because there’s no news out there for us to write about, we’ll have to make our own. Nothing could be better than giving you the opportunity to show off your knowledge and wits in another Curmudgeon’s Creative Challenge.

It’s been a while since we had one of these. Earlier contests were: #1 (Creationism is to evolution as _____ is to _______), followed by #2 (The typical Discoveroid’s next job will be _______), and most recently #3 (The Discoveroids are the dregs of _____).

We now throw open the comments section so that you, dear reader, may achieve eternal glory by answering the following question:

The creationists’ biggest lie is _____.

You know the rules: Enter the contest as many times as you wish, but you must avoid profanity, vulgarity, childish anatomical analogies, etc. Also, avoid slanderous statements about individuals. Feel free to comment (tastefully) on the entries submitted by others — with praise, criticism, or whatever.

Your Curmudgeon will decide if there’s a winner, and whenever we get around to it we’ll announce who the winner is. There is no prize. The accomplishment is its own reward.

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19 responses to “Curmudgeon’s Creative Challenge #4

  1. Since Bush and gang were creationists….The biggest
    lie would be Iraq was a huge threat to the USA because
    it was planning to use WMAs and supported Al-Qaeda.

    Another huge lie by the creationists was that Obama was
    not born in Hawaii.

    Then there is the lie that the universe is young and humans
    and dinosaurs were created in the same week.

  2. Charley Horse said:

    it was planning to use WMAs

    And if there is one thing we didn’t want them to do, it was use a proprietary Windows audio media format!

  3. How about “it’s only a theory” or “It’s never been proven.” Those are both technically true, though, but they’re the only creationist talking points I’ve ever heard non-religious pro-ID people parrot.

  4. The creationists greatest lie is creation itself.

  5. Creationist biggest lie is borrowed, that “the Holy Bible is the infallible word of God.” Their justifications all come from “if it is in the Bible, it must be true.” The fact that there are already proven falsehoods in the Bible proves them wrong, but they continue to insist they are right. And they gull other “believers” (people who believe things, all evidence aside) into also believing in Creationism, even though they do not understand it.

    We scientists are somewhat guilty of this same fault. If you look at TV science programming, so much of what is presented is actually incorrect, but done a certain way to convince “ordinary citizens” to “believe” in science.

  6. Charley Horse: “Since Bush and gang were creationists.”

    In fairness, Bush has come out and accepted evolution, as best as one can expect from someone who is both illiterate of, and indifferent to, science, and who associates with anti-science activists with a common agenda on social issues. What you might mean is that he advocated teaching “both sides,” ironically just a few months before a judge that he appointed ruled that such approaches are inappropriate for science class, and unconstitutional to boot.

    I often admit that I too advocated teaching “both sides,” and that was in the 1990s, after 20 years as a chemist, and 30 years after accepting evolution. I quickly realized my error. Bush probably did too, with his statement, and Judge Jones’ decision, fresh in his mind.

  7. Actually I think that most of those who insist that humans walked with Dinosaurs, or that the Earth is only 1000s of years old truly believe that nonsense, and thus, technically are not lying. It’s usually a case of Morton’s Demon, and often one where they eventually admit that the evidence does not support their fairy tale, but they believe it regardless.

    The ones who are lying, or at least telling falsehoods that they honestly beleve that the “masses” need to believe to behave properly are the ones who say “don’t ask, don’t tell what happened when or whodunit.”

    Thus, IMO, the biggest lie is when they say, in so many words We don’t need to connect no stinkin; dots!” Because they know that they do need to connect dots, and that if they did, it would point right to evolution.

  8. The creationists’ biggest lie is that creation/ID is science.

  9. The creationists biggest lie is ‘what is reality’

  10. That the Nazis were evolutionists.

    Because, in the words of a statement by the Anti-Defamation League:

    “Using the Holocaust in order to tarnish those who promote the theory of evolution is outrageous and trivializes the complex factors that led to the mass extermination of European Jewry.”

    Because some of the people who promote it are in a position to know better. They may not know better, but they ought to.

  11. I can’t decide which one is the biggest lie, either “creationism is science” – despite the fact that they never actually publish any professional scientific research backing up any of their beliefs – or “evolution isn’t really science, it’s just another religion” – which they say by deliberately ignoring the existence of the literally hundreds of research articles published about various aspects of evolution each and every year in the professional science literature. (There’s also the related lie that “the theory of evolution is on the verge of collapse in science”.)

  12. Frank J: “Actually I think that most of those who insist that humans walked with Dinosaurs, or that the Earth is only 1000s of years old truly believe that nonsense, and thus, technically are not lying. …
    The ones who are lying, or at least telling falsehoods that they honestly beleve that the “masses” need to believe to behave properly are the ones who say “don’t ask, don’t tell what happened when or whodunit.””

    I agree. I would also add to the “Liar’s Column” those who espouse creationism for monetary gain. Ken Ham comes to mind, as well as the entire DI.

  13. Ed said:
    “The creationists greatest lie is creation itself.”
    I think I would go with this, but I would put the word in quote marks, “creation,” to emphasize the point that it’s the deliberate and considered use of that word, with its specific meaning in this context of “an artifact of god’s making,” that leads to and necessitates (creates?) all the other lies, misconceptions and buffoonery of creationism.
    Of course, the concept itself, as believed in by most people, is not technically a lie, only an error. But I think an error persisted in IS a lie, when it’s actively taught as a valid “truth” in the face of evidence to the contrary. It’s a lie in its effect.

  14. There biggest lie is that they pretend to be honest.

  15. Tomato Addict

    “The creationists’ biggest lie is _____.”

    (We do not understand science, therefore) God did it.

  16. The creationist’s biggest lie, one they believe themselves, is that they understand science. They want science to say what they already believe. They don’t think of themselves as misguided fundamentalists, but that the truth is what they believe it to be. That’s a very dangerous attitude, a refusal to follow science founded on free inquiry and to instead perpetuate a religion of lies. I know how they think, I used to be one, backing off from ‘evolution doesn’t happen” to “happens in some cases” to “other species but not humans” to (finally) acceptance of the evidence. Don’t let this happen to you, open your eyes. The biggest lies of creationists is they believe they want to know the truth.

  17. The creationists’ biggest lie is _____.

    There’s so many to choose from. I think the most annoying is their dishonest claim that there’s real biologists in the world who are evolution deniers, as if it’s possible for a biologist to deny the foundation of biology.

    They get this misconception from the extremely dishonest Christian Creationist Discovery Institute and their list of non-scientists, dead scientists, and fake scientists. They pretend there are real scientists who invoke magic (AKA magical intelligent design creationism) to solve scientific problems.

    A close 2nd place is their idiotic “we interpret the evidence differently” even though they don’t have any idea how much evidence there is. How can they interpret something they have never heard of? Of course they’re not qualified to say anything about it, and to put it as nicely as possible they’re not able to understand any scientific evidence.

    I wrote a few hundred posts about the breathtaking stupidity of science deniers.

  18. @Human Ape: Don’t you hate it when you arrive just as the party has ended? That’s sort of how I feel now after just discovering your blog, but at least there’s are lots of leftovers to browse through. I hope we continue you see your comments there.

  19. The Creationist’s biggest lie has not yet been spoken.

    Their whoppers are getting bigger all the time.