Creationist Wisdom #234: Who’s the Moron?

We occasionally post about columns written by Ben Bova, a good science fiction writer, when he discusses The Controversy between evolution and creationism. He lives in Naples Florida, and sometimes writes for his local paper, the Naples Daily News: The last time was here: Ben Bova: The Search For Life’s Origins.

Bova recently wrote The ignorant and their leaders are marching endlessly — to oblivion , but we didn’t post about it. However, his column triggered today’s letter-to-the-editor in that newspaper, titled Crossing the line. It’s delightfully riddled with creationist cliches. We’ll give you a few excerpts, enhanced with our Curmudgeonly commentary, and some bold font for emphasis. As we usually do we’ll omit the writer’s name and city. Okay, here we go:

Ben Bova’s lack of accuracy and truth in his March 18 commentary is matched only by his arrogance in calling people of faith ignorant. He made numerous inaccurate statements and is ignorant of the following:

A bold beginning! We can’t wait for the rest:

Although there are many examples of intra-species evolution, there has never been an instance of interspecies evolution in which, for example, a cat can become a horse. Charles Darwin wrote that if proof of interspecies evolution is not eventually found, then his theory fails.

No croco-duck, no cat-dog! Jeepers, he’s right! Let’s read on:

Darwin’s theory has failed for lack of proof, but to Bova and his ilk belief in evolution has become a false religion requiring greater faith than a belief in God.

Search your soul, dear reader. Are you among Bova’s ilk? We continue:

Increasingly, respected scientists are realizing only “intelligent design” satisfactorily explains the origin of the universe. Brilliant scientists, such as Sir Isaac Newton, Lord Kelvin, Johannes Kepler, James Prescott Joule, Werner von Braun, Carl Linnaeus, Sir Joseph Lister, Louis Pasteur, Robert Boyle, Michael Faraday, and Dr. Taylor (who has authored over 80 scientific articles) believed in creation and its Creator.

Nice list. Most lived before Darwin. As for the others, none are even 20th Century, except for von Braun — who was no biologist. We don’t know who Taylor is, nor do we really care. Here’s more:

To believe that man evolved from primordial ooze is akin to believing that a fully functioning 747 airplane was created by a hurricane passing through a junk yard.

Wow — we never heard of that before. (Actually, we have. See Hoyle’s fallacy.) Here’s one more excerpt from the letter’s end:

Bova was right when he stated: “The morons march on. To their death.” Only he didn’t realize to whom his statement applied.

We think Bova knew exactly to whom he was referring.

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11 responses to “Creationist Wisdom #234: Who’s the Moron?

  1. Tomato Addict

    Although there are many examples of intra-species evolution, there has never been an instance of interspecies evolution in which, for example, a cat can become a horse.

    Hay, you can call me a neigh-sayer if you want, but I think guy is full of road apples.

    Singing: A horse is a horse, of course, of course, except when it’s a cat!

  2. Well, Darwin proved!

    My cat sang too loudly last night and woke up this morning a little hoarse.

  3. I love it! It was like reading The God Delusion Abridged.

  4. Argh, Doc… now I forgot what I was going to write!

    Oh yeah, now I remember. None of the fine scientists on that list, with the possible exception of von Braun and the mysterious Dr. Taylor, believed in either the big bang or the steady state theory of the universe, continental drift, global warming, quantum theory, relativity, the germ theory of disease, the existence of Pluto, or thousands of other things we know today.

    However, they believed in a creator, and by the writer’s implication, intelligent design. That makes sense – one has to reject most of modern science to believe in ID, so maybe he has a point after all.

  5. one has to reject most of modern science to believe in ID, so maybe he has a point after all.

    Take an IDiot, any IDiot … please!

    But, srsly, folks, ask them these questions, nothing to do with the Designer, peace be on him.

    1. What is the theory of “intelligent design?”

    2. What is the metric of design? That is, what is the definition of the unit of measurement of design and how is it measured?

    3. Demonstrate, objectively using the metric you just described, design in nature.

    To save you the time, these are impossible questions to answer.

    There is no theory of ID. The definition, such as it is, consists of an unsubstantiated assertion followed by an argument against the theory of evolution. Sorry, IDiots, that does not make a theory.

    Likewise, there is no metric of design. If there was such a metric then we could determine objectively whether a puddle formed in a depression I dug or naturally. Specified complexity, irreducible complexity and kryptonite are all the same.

    No creationist or Disco Tute denizen has ever been able to address these three points, not Meyer, Dembski, Behe, Wells or even the mighty Nobel wannabe Attack Gerbil esquire Luskin.

  6. Tomato Addict

    Doc Bill = Kryptonite to Creationists

    Now if we can only get him to wear spandex and a cape? 🙂

  7. aturingtest

    Doc Bill: “My cat sang too loudly last night and woke up this morning a little hoarse.”
    Stop, Doc- you are KILLING me!
    The thing is, we’re talking about folks here who see this version of Hoyle’s fallacy, used without attribution, and, having never seen it before, will say, “that’s brilliant! Of course- ID!” Hoyle’s fallacy is superficially clever, but that will do for people who think only superficially.

  8. FYI, the Dr. Taylor (who has authored over 80 scientific articles) is an electrical engineer featured at Answers In Genesis. http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/isd/stephen-taylor

    I found that out by Googling “Dr. Taylor who has authored over 80 scientific articles,” so I assume the letter writer is an AIG fan.

  9. aturingtest

    Ellie: that’s interesting. So, not only is an electrical engineer qualified to pronounce on evolution- this particular one is so brilliant that he’s worthy of mention in the same breath as Newton, Kepler, Faraday, etc. To these folks, a guy with “Dr” in front of his name is a scientist, and a scientist is a scientist- the field of science doesn’t matter. It’s their ultimate appeal to authority, without regard to expertise. I’m an electrician, but primarily only a residential one- I leave the high-voltage stuff, motors, transformers, etc., to the guys who specialize in that stuff. These folks would think that because I could blueprint and build a simple four-way lighting switch system, I could also design and construct an industrial transformer-to-motor system. Of course, I have known Dunning-Kruger electricians who thought they could do things out of their league. Some of them are dead.

  10. Letter Writer: “Ben Bova’s lack of accuracy and truth in his March 18 commentary is matched only by his arrogance in calling people of faith ignorant.”

    “Of faith” – like Ken Miller and Francis Collins? I doubt that Bova would call them ignorant. And I hope he would not use that word for people like Behe and Dembski, who are clearly faking ignorance.

    Letter Writer: “Darwin’s theory has failed for lack of proof…”

    “Proof”? Well I can see that “ignorant” is well-earned by some. Especially when they parrot the “primordial ooze” nonsense, yet have no problem with, nor any desire to critically analyse the “primordial dust” hypotheses – any of the mutually contradictory ones.