Creationist Wisdom #275: Bill Nye or Jesus

Today’s letter-to-the-editor appears in the Daily News Journal of Murfreesboro, Tennessee. The letter is titled ‘Science Guy’ needs to go back to school. We’ll give you a few excerpts, enhanced with our Curmudgeonly commentary, and some bold font for emphasis. As we usually do, we’ll omit the writer’s name and city. Okay, here we go:

Bill Nye the ‘Science Guy’ claims that “religious based dismissal of evolution endangers US science” (DNJ Sept 24, 2012). How did the ‘Science Guy’ become so un-scientific? What scientific data did he use to arrive at his conclusion? How did he experimentally test his hypothesis?

As you surely know, the letter-writer is talking about the viral video, Bill Nye Blasts Creationism. The letter continues:

On the contrary, the teaching of evolution has gone on unrestrained in our public schools for decades. Is it a coincidence that our country has dropped to 23rd in the world in science education? Many think not.

Many think not? We suspect that many of those many also think they’ve been abducted and probed by aliens — many times. Let’s read on:

The classic scientific method consists of hypothesis, model, theory, and law.

Uh huh, and the classic ignoramus who writes creationist letters-to-the-editor always seems to write sentences like that. We continue:

In order for a hypothesis to be considered a valid theory, it must be confirmed through repeated experimental tests. Has macro evolution (all plants, animals, and people descendant from a single ancestor) ever been tested and proven through repeated experimental tests? NO! Then why do we teach it to our children as a law of nature? In doing so we are teaching our children not to think critically with an open mind and thus we stifle innovation and valid scientific research.

Oh, if only the kiddies could be taught to think critically — like this letter-writer! Here’s more:

Bill Nye states that adults can dismiss evolution, “but don’t make your kids do it because we need them.” What do you need them for Bill … to indoctrinate them into a Godless, un-scientific ideology?

A godless, un-scientific ideology? BWAHAHAHAHAHA! Where does one find such a thing? Moving along:

Bill Nye also makes the following astounding statement, “If we take a generation of students who don’t believe in the process of science … who think everything that we’ve come to know about nature and the universe can be dismissed by a few sentences from an ancient text, you’re not going to continue to innovate.” Hmmm … since we have been teaching evolution in public schools for a generation, isn’t THAT perhaps why students don’t believe in the process of science?

Yes, that must be it. And now we come to the end:

That ancient text has two more things to say: “A fool has said in his heart that there is no God” (Psalm 14:1), and, Jesus said, “Heaven and earth will pass away but my words will never pass away” (Matthew 24:35). The question is who has more credibility, Bill Nye the ‘Un-scientific Guy’ or Jesus Christ?

Well, dear reader, it’s up to you — who has more credibility?

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14 responses to “Creationist Wisdom #275: Bill Nye or Jesus

  1. Decisions, decisions…Bill Nye?…Jesus?…Bill Nye?…Jesus?….Tough call…Ooh, wait, I know!!…..Klinghoffer!!

  2. I utterly reject the false ‘either/or’ choice on offer here, I want my Jesus and my Bill Nye, too! And I am not alone in this — at least, if the scholarly and compelling Jesus Believes in Evolution website is anything to go by…

  3. A little more googling turns up a starker binary choice, this one from What Did Jesus Say About Evolution?, which concludes:

    This is an all or nothing proposition—there is no middle ground to stand on. Either you believe every word, or you might as well throw out the entire Bible!

    The position that God did not create Adam—that he did not exist—makes Paul, John, Peter, Jude, even Jesus Christ, into liars.

    You are left with a choice. Will you believe the biblical record?

    As Frank J has already mused, “Decisions, decisions…”

    🙂

  4. The letter writer states, “On the contrary, the teaching of evolution has gone on unrestrained in our public schools for decades.”

    “unrestrained”? Hardly. So many teachers are wary of offending their religiously-indoctrinated parents, principals and school boards that they tread lightly when mentioning evolution, if they mention the word at all. In fact, many teachers at the middle school level teaching science are elementary-certified or licensed, and have very little science background or interest. (Many are doubtless creationists themselves.)

    So, perhaps this is why we are 23rd in science.

    The letter-writer’s time would be better spent entering cockroach-eating contests.

  5. retiredsciguy suggests

    The letter-writer’s time would be better spent entering cockroach-eating contests

    Steady on! Why punish the cockroaches?

  6. Megalonyx: “Steady on! Why punish the cockroaches?”

    PETA member, eh? (People for the Ethical Treatment of Arthropods, that is.)

  7. Charles Deetz ;)

    Okay, I’ll agree with the letter writer that a little research to back up Nye’s point is do-able and would be a great follow-up to his video.

    Ahh, a quick google says this has been tried before. here is one given to college bio students.

  8. Not quite.

    People for Edible Tasty Arthropods.

    Lobsters, yes. Cockroaches, not so much.

  9. If there really was an Intelligent Designer, there’d either be no such thing as cockroaches, or they’d be delicious.

  10. In the countries ahead of the US in science education they do teach evolution in schools and not creationist mythology.

    This may be the most pathetic creationist argument yet.

  11. retiredsciguy: “unrestrained”? Hardly. So many teachers are wary of offending their religiously-indoctrinated parents, principals and school boards that they tread lightly when mentioning evolution, if they mention the word at all. In fact, many teachers at the middle school level teaching science are elementary-certified or licensed, and have very little science background or interest. (Many are doubtless creationists themselves.)

    Exactly! This is just what I think whenever I see or hear creationists bemoan the supposed evolutionist “indoctrination” that they say happens in all our public schools. “Tread lightly” is exactly what my 9th grade biology teacher did, and she even made sure to tell us that “this is all only a theory and it hasn’t been proven.” If it matters, this was in an upscale suburb of Dallas in the mid-’90s.

  12. TPK: “If it matters, this was in an upscale suburb of Dallas in the mid-’90s.

    SC has done a thorough job of documenting the “creationist leanings” of the Texas School Board and The Gov. So, yes, that wouldn’t be surprising in Dallas.

    I should have mentioned in my post that my comments were informed by 27 years of experience teaching in a middle school in Ohio.

  13. NeonNoodle hypothesises:

    If there really was an Intelligent Designer, there’d either be no such thing as cockroaches, or they’d be delicious.

    Or:

    The fact that far more cockroaches are happy to dine on humans than the other way around strongly suggests the Intelligent Designer is more likely to be an exceptionally Big-Brained Blattarian.

    Gomez and Richards really missed a trick in their Privileged Planet screed. If one really wants to ‘explain’ the cosmos by seeking out the cui bono, one would likely conclude our cosmos is optimised, not for us, but for cockroaches.

  14. Cockroaches, or tartigrades, or small insectivores or . . .