WND: Rev. David Rives — Darwin’s Big Problem

We were once again aroused by the blaring sirens and lights flashing on the wall display of our Retard-o-tron™. The blinking letters on the wall said WorldNetDaily. WorldNetDaily (WND) is the flamingly creationist, absolutely execrable, moronic, and incurably crazed journalistic organ that believes in and enthusiastically promotes every conspiracy theory that ever existed.

The Retard-o-tron™ directed us to WND’s presentation of a new video by the brilliant and articulate leader of David Rives Ministries. WND’s headline is Darwin’s ‘gravest objection’ to own theory.

The rev’s video is titled The Gravest Objection. It’s only one and a half minutes long, in which you’ll learn that Darwin himself doubted his theory because of the lack of transitional fossils, and he blundered around desperately trying to explain away this terrible defect, but he just couldn’t do it.

We’ve dealt with this before, but creationists endlessly repeat the same old nonsense, so we need to haul out the same old rebuttals. Yes, it’s true — the fossil record is incomplete and it always will be. Darwin recognized this and explained it in Origin of Species, Chapter 9. Gaps in the record are inevitable because not every dead animal fossilizes, and those that do are difficult to find. Creatures migrate and expand their range, so fossils that are found may be far from the location of their ancestors. Additionally, the geological record is often chaotic.

Nevertheless, a large number of rather striking transitionals have been found — see List of transitional fossils. Only a few would be sufficient to support Darwin’s theory because if evolution didn’t happen, then there shouldn’t be any transitional fossils at all. How does the rev explain their existence?

As we’ve done before with the rev’s videos, due to the lack of any rational content, and because there’s so much else of genuine importance going on in the world, please feel free to use the comments as an Intellectual Free Fire Zone. You know the rules. Okay, now go to it.

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9 responses to “WND: Rev. David Rives — Darwin’s Big Problem

  1. Christine Janis,

    OK, so the lack of transitional fossils is all the fault of those early geologists, like James Hutton, who did not believe in God enough to consider the bible in their understanding of geology.

    Can someone explain this to me?

    BTW Good thing that Archaeopteryx was found a couple of years after the publication of the Origin, so that problem got sorted pretty quicky.

  2. David Rives, gotta love the Redartotron.
    Another issue with the earth’s rock record, is that it has innumerable sequence boundaries (unconformities) where there is missing time in the chronostratigraphy. Many of these can be attributed to sea level fluctations caused by pertubations in the earths orbit, called Melenkovich cycles(there are 4 types of pertubations). These cause fluctuations in global climate and therefore, the earth’s ice budget. Sea level rises and falls globally in response(climate change deniers howdy!).. Ancient and modern basin subsidence rates also play a role in what is preserved and what is eroded off during these lowstands of sea level. These cycles in the rock record are documented by the Haq et al global sea level curves extending back to the Cambrian, where geoscientists, using outcrop and seismic data, have documented where these events occur in the earhts stratal record. They are significant, andf very correlabale events looking at strata worldwide.
    Its also important information to understand when looking for oil reservoirs in the sub surface.
    Moreover, extinction events of marine organisms in particular, can be correlated to these global sea level drops, which expose continental shelves globally and cause great amounts of erosion updip. Therefore sedimentation in the basins into which fluvial (stream) drainage supplies clastics(sand and mud), increases at those times in marginal marine and deepwater settings. These cycles are also evident in limestones. Plate tectonics and changing basin volumes worldwide also effect global sea level drastically, and this is overprinted on the Haq curves, but occurs less cyclically apparently.
    So, the “gaps” in the record of fossils are very much , correlable to missing rock that was being eroded during sea level lowstands. Its true that sometimes there are major changes in the fauna
    across these unconfomities, such as the Cretaceous-Tertiary boundary
    (big changes) and between Paleozoic eras. However, some fauna persist in changed form across these boundaries . extremes in climate apparently also effect terrestrial extinctions as well.
    Not hard to follow that if you look at the evidence.
    Unless you’re a creationist or don’t like to think.
    Hutton and Lyell of darwin’s era were ground breaking geologists(excuse the pun). And their work helped the scientific community formulate understandings about the fossil record. We couild explain the gaps as times of miraculous supernatural events, but then before light was understood better, we did the same when we saw rainbows. 🙂

  3. I always love hearing this series of words (it seems rude to call it something like an argument) out of creationists. We can immediately see how out of touch they, how willingly ignorant they are, how arrogant they are to say such things with that confidence. In less than a minute you can pull up a few pages with hundreds of ‘transitional fossils.’ But then aren’t all fossils transitional?

    In the Origin of species Charlie made a few predictions, Human fossils would be found in Africa (which pissed off many English people because we were foolishly nationalistic and racist, some of us have changed). Fossils will be found in pre-cambrian rocks, which were discovered 100 years after the Origin of Species was published, and the whales with half teeth and half baleen things.

  4. I have to take exception to the title here: Rev. David Rives — Darwin’s Big Problem

    Darwin is beyond having such problems, or indeed any problems at all.

    I’m afraid that Rev. Rives is our problem now…

  5. Alex Shuffell observes, “But then aren’t all fossils transitional?”


  6. @Megalonyx: I don’t know if Darwin is beyond such problems. Maybe the Rev has a point and this is Darwin’s biggest problem. I used to think it was being dead, but after his showing in the election I’m thinking being dead isn’t his biggest problem. 🙂

  7. How does the rev explain all those fossils? Isn’t it obvious? The earth started out packed to the gills with species, and in a battle royale to beat all, we’re counting down to zero. Seems inevitable if extinction occurs but speciation doesn’t. Or maybe the Lord chucks a few new critters in when the action lets up (where we can never, ever see, of course). Apparently, the Lord loves a good cage match as much as he does beetles.

  8. “… Hutton and Lyell of darwin’s era were ground breaking geologists(excuse the pun). And their work helped the scientific community formulate understandings about the fossil record. …”

    Who was that Masked Geology Professor anyway?

  9. The comments below the video on WND are a hoot. Make sure you read them. And my insurance company advertised right below the video. I think I have a letter to write, asking them to please not advertise on WND. That brings in dumber people, more likely to have accidents etc raising my premiums.