Marco Rubio: Maybe He’s Not a Creationist

A few weeks ago we — like everyone else — wrote about Florida Senator Marco Rubio’s sensational blunder regarding the age of the earth. See Marco Rubio and Creationism.

Our last Rubio post has links to show that we’ve been writing for years about some of the spectacularly stupid things he’s said — about creationism and about separation of church and state — but we always felt he was smarter than that. Nevertheless, as long as he was willing to pander so shamelessly, we felt that he lacked integrity, which is a far greater defect than ignorance.

Now, however, Rubio seems to be coming to his senses. At least he might be. At the CNN website we found this story: Rubio clarifies age of the Earth answer. Here are some excerpts, with bold font added by us:

Republican Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida attempted to clear up Wednesday his controversial answer to a question about the Earth’s age last month.

Science says (the Earth) is about 4.5 billion years old. My faith teaches that’s not inconsistent,” Rubio said at a Politico Playbook Breakfast in Washington. “God created the heavens and the Earth, and science has given us insight into when he did it and how he did it.”

Except for hard-core creationists, almost every politician in every party will give an answer like that, so we have no objection to Rubio’s latest statement. But that’s not all he said. The CNN story then tells us:

“The more science learns,” he continued, “the more I am convinced that God is real.”

We wonder what recent scientific research finally convinced Rubio. Was it the discovery of more than a thousand extra-solar planets so far? Or maybe it was the Higgs boson? He doesn’t tell us, so let’s continue with the CNN story:

On Wednesday, one morning after he gave a high-profile speech, Rubio said he doesn’t “regret” his answer but wishes he had given “a more succinct” response.

Let’s give him credit for realizing that he blundered, and badly. A hard-core creationist wouldn’t regret a single word. We continue:

Rubio said he was originally talking about the “theological debate” over the Earth’s age-not the “scientific debate,” which he said has definitively established the planet is at least 4.5 billion years old.

Okay, that’s fair enough. Here’s one more excerpt:

“My belief is that the story that the Bible tells about God creating this magnificent Earth on which we live, that that is essentially true, that is fundamentally true,” Obama said at a CNN presidential forum. “Now, whether it happened exactly as we might understand it reading the text of the Bible? That, you know, I don’t presume to know.”

Again, that’s typical of every non-creationist politician. We can accept it. If Rubio continues to maintain his distance from the lunatics (who are to be found in both parties, by the way) then he may prove himself to be acceptable. At the moment, we’re not at all certain, but we’ll keep an open mind.

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16 responses to “Marco Rubio: Maybe He’s Not a Creationist

  1. Better late than never.

  2. We neglected to mention that this news was brought to our attention by one of our clandestine operatives — Agent 405.

  3. We wonder what recent scientific research finally convinced Rubio.

    The scientific research conducted by his own pollsters, no doubt. I guess we should look at this optimistically and say its a good sign when a FL GOP senator determines that there’s more political benefit in supporting evolution than in denying it.

    Baby steps – first cynical, mercenary, vote-buying support for science. Then maybe actual, sincere support for science.

  4. The Curmudgeon wrote:

    We neglected to mention that this news was brought to our attention by one of our clandestine operatives — Agent 405.

    Now that is a name I have not heard in along time.. in a long time.

  5. Holding the Line in Florida

    Maybe I am paranoid, but I am not convinced. Another quote from the interview. Here in Florida, you can imagine what this means. “I just think in America we should have the freedom to teach our children whatever it is we believe. And that means teaching them science, they have to know the science, but also parents have the right to teach them the theology and to reconcile the two things.”

  6. Holding the Line in Florida says: “Maybe I am paranoid, but I am not convinced.”

    As long as he talks about parents teaching theology, and not the public schools, it’s okay. But we shouldn’t forget that he supported Ronda Storms’ creationism bill back in 2008.

  7. But Marco, is this a spherical earth or a flat earth?

  8. Rubio doesn’t know what he is because he’s undereducated and furthermore he is not interested in learning anything. As a typical Rethuglican his opinions are already set in stone and learning new things is so elitist!

    This is the future Inhoff, a perpetually ignorant politician who will glad-hand his way through his career but, basically, he’s a dummy now and he’ll be a dummy 40 years from now.

    Sad, really. If he had the cajones he could work his way out of his trap and make a difference, but stupid is as stupid does.

  9. Here’s Rubio, in his interview for the December 2012 issue of GQ:

    Q: How old do you think the Earth is?

    A: I’m not a scientist, man. I can tell you what recorded history says, I can tell you what the Bible says, but I think that’s a dispute amongst theologians and I think it has nothing to do with the gross domestic product or economic growth of the United States. I think the age of the universe has zero to do with how our economy is going to grow. I’m not a scientist. I don’t think I’m qualified to answer a question like that. At the end of the day, I think there are multiple theories out there on how the universe was created and I think this is a country where people should have the opportunity to teach them all. I think parents should be able to teach their kids what their faith says, what science says. Whether the Earth was created in 7 days, or 7 actual eras, I’m not sure we’ll ever be able to answer that. It’s one of the great mysteries.

    And here’s then-Sen. Obama, D-Ill., speaking at the Compassion Forum at Messiah College in Grantham, Pa. on April 13, 2008:

    Q: Senator, if one of your daughters asked you—and maybe they already have—“Daddy, did god really create the world in 6 days?,” what would you say?

    A: What I’ve said to them is that I believe that God created the universe and that the six days in the Bible may not be six days as we understand it … it may not be 24-hour days, and that’s what I believe. I know there’s always a debate between those who read the Bible literally and those who don’t, and I think it’s a legitimate debate within the Christian community of which I’m a part. My belief is that the story that the Bible tells about God creating this magnificent Earth on which we live—that is essentially true, that is fundamentally true. Now, whether it happened exactly as we might understand it reading the text of the Bible: That, I don’t presume to know.

  10. Ceteris Paribus

    Rubio needs to get his crockoducks in a row pretty quickly if he expects to put his hat in the ring for the 2016 Republican presidential candidate race. For example, Kansas Governor Brownback has issued this proclamation for Saturday:

    “WHEREAS, we collectively repent of distancing ourselves from God and ask for His mercy on us:

    NOW, THEREFORE, I, Sam Brownback, GOVERNOR OF THE STATE OF KANSAS, do hereby proclaim December 8th 2012, as a

    Day of Restoration

    in Kansas and ask every citizen of our state to join in asking a Holy God to bring healing and restoration — help in mending broken lives, bringing peace to our families, our communities, and this land.”

    Theocracy already rules in the great state of Brownbackistan. As a mere senator, Rubio will have to work hard to get his creationist credentials noticed by his party.

  11. Holding The Line In Florida

    He also came in pretty strongly for “the Freedom of Religion” amendment as well. Think that says it a lot. Still can’t believe we narrowly escaped that ridiculous piece of legistration.

  12. I’m reserving judgement on this one.

    I’d be impressed if Ray Comfort ‘outed’ Rubio in his “Atheist of the Week” guest spot…

  13. I reserve judgment. If a person is a closet creationist who has no inclination to push their lunacy on others or to change existing laws, and the other candidate is a raving communist (I mean akin to Karl Marx, I’m not implying anything about Obama). I’d vote for the closet creationist. I wish everyone would wake up and stop buying into tha crap and at least educate themselves on the basics, but until that great day, we’re stuck with finding the lesser of evils.

    Maybe we could come up with a way to line-item veto a candidate?

    I think unless Rubio does something seriously stupid he will be a very strong contender for the GOP in 2016. He fits the bill in several ways of what they seem to think the nation is looking for.

  14. Any minute now we should hear from Ken Ham whining about Rubio the same way that he whined about Pat Robertson last week. So, I’ll put my response to Hambo here now, and beat the rush: Hey Ken, the earth is 4.6 billion years old. All the evidence supports that. It is not the case that people only come to that conclusion based on their philosophical presuppositions, as many of the pieces of the evidence cross-corroborate each other. Furthermore, no evidence supports a 6,000 year age for the earth, and many pieces of evidence refute the possibility. Details are available in any books of real geology and biology. Reality doesn’t argue; it just is. Deal with it.

    Of course, this won’t do the slightest bit of good as, according to the old adage, “it is very difficult to get a man to understand something when his paycheck depends on him not understanding it.”

  15. Mark Joseph: “Of course, this won’t do the slightest bit of good as, according to the old adage, “it is very difficult to get a man to understand something when his paycheck depends on him not understanding it.”

    Describes Ken Ham perfectly.

  16. Re your use of the word lunatic. I kid you not, Congress has declared in its infinite wisdom that the word “lunatic” shall be stricken from all laws and will not be used by the US Congress in the future. Seriously. It is a new law passed in the last 30 days.