Creationist Wisdom #318: Genesis Prevails!

Today’s letter-to-the-editor appears in the Onalaska Holmen Courier Life, a weekly newspaper in West Salem, Wisconsin (population 4,837). The letter is titled God, not science, holds the answers. We’ll give you a few excerpts, enhanced with our Curmudgeonly commentary, and some bold font for emphasis. As we usually do we’ll omit the writer’s name and city. Okay, here we go:

It was reported that scientists studying the Big Bang have concluded the universe is 80 million years older than previously thought. This caused me to open my Bible and read the creation account in Genesis.

A perfectly natural reaction. We mentioned that news before (Scientists find universe is 80 million years older), and it prompted our last post about a letter-to-the-editor (#317: Problem with Numbers). Today’s letter continues:

It was reported that the European Space Agency spent $900 million to supposedly uncover “a fundamental truth of the universe.” As a Christian, I don’t have to look under a microscope or through a telescope to uncover the secrets of the universe.

That’s one of the problems with science — it requires research and that can be expensive. Let’s read on:

I believe God created the world and everything in it in six 24-hour days, about 6,000 to 8,000 years ago. I believe that the world as we know it today is not a product of blind chaos and probability — God did it.

He’s right — that’s what the Good Book says. We continue:

A Readers Digest article from 1980 titled “How Astronomers Found God” had this quote in it — “For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountain of ignorance, as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians, who have been sitting there for centuries.”

Reader’s Digest — that’s his source? BWAHAHAHAHAHA! That quote comes from Robert Jastrow, a self-described agnostic, and it’s found in God and the Astronomers, published in 1978. The full quote, which is often used by creationists, refers to Jastrow’s despair at what he assumed was the impossibility of understanding the origin of the Big Bang. What he wrote was somewhat theistic, but not as flamingly so as the creationist would have us believe. This is the full paragraph, and the part not quoted above is shown in red. Bear in mind that Jastrow is talking about the Big Bang, not the Garden of Eden:

At this moment it seems as though science will never be able to raise the curtain on the mystery of creation. For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries.

Here’s the end of the letter:

Please read the first chapter of Genesis and see how the world really began.

That’s it, dear reader. It’s up to you now. Will you heed the letter-writer’s advice?

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20 responses to “Creationist Wisdom #318: Genesis Prevails!

  1. I was skeptical until the Reader’s Digest citation was made. At least the author didn’t mince words, he takes his delusion straight up and head on. There is something old school about that you have to enjoy.

  2. Realist1948

    Perhaps the author of the letter suffered brain damage by living too close to the Speedway in West Salem.

    http://lacrossespeedway.com/

    Them exhaust fooms wool getcha!

    But if it’s not brain damage, and simply ignorance that explains the letter-writer’s views, there may be hope. NOVA on PBS has a new series that began airing recently (and is viewable on line):
    Australia – The First 4 Billion Years:
    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/earth/australia-first-years.html

    That narrator guy talks a lot, but it’s got lotsa pictures, too! Bible ain’t got no purdy pictures atall.

  3. Yes. The 1980 Readers’ Digest reference put the thing in a different light. He’s living in the past in so many ways.

  4. Religidiots say such stupid schite while dialing their iphone, leaving their modern air conditioned home to drive their new Prius to their business which uses tons of computers and the infernal-net. NOT a ONE of those silly brainless idiots believe that stuff, they all know science works and gives the answers, because not a one of them would throw all the stuff mentioned above away and say science does not work and go to their mud shack to attach the ox to the wood plow to clear their small garden.
    One person said similar to me and I called him out on it and said “the science that shows your religion is BS is the same science that makes the iPhone work. So when will you throw it away.” And as he hugged it to his chest, I just smiled and said, “RRRrrrrrriiiiightt! hypocrite.”
    As a side note I have found that when you quote something from the buyBull that supports the idea that jesus is an ass. They will claim that they have read the buyBull and it does not say that. They will deny! DENY! DENY!!!! And if a buyBull is right there they will refuse to look because they KNOW!

  5. I would simply like to point out that it’s spelled “Goddidit” not “God did it”. Where did he get his grammar?

  6. Wait, this guy is in Wisconsin! Where’s TA? Anyone seen him lately? This isn’t TA pulling a Poe on us, is it?
    TA!?!? Ooooh, T-AAAAAA!?!?!

  7. ” . . ..he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries.”

    Yes, sitting on their backsides, staring into their navels, accomplishing nothing, discovering nothing, making no positive contribution to society at all. Holding back progress on every front,

  8. Gary observes, “Wait, this guy is in Wisconsin! Where’s TA? Anyone seen him lately? This isn’t TA pulling a Poe on us, is it?”

    Or maybe it’s Gabriel Hannah. He’s in Wisconsin as well.

  9. I take that back about Gabriel Hannah. He would never quote mine, not even as a poe. Now TA? Well…he does like to go for the laugh now and then, but his usual weapon is a YouTube clip from Monty Python.

    @Realist1948: You are right about the Nova program. Watched it Wednesday — excellent! Shades of David Attenborough’s Life on Earth series, which is still one of the best expositions of evolution ever made — if not the best.

  10. I agree – the Nova program was excellent. It really drove the point home about how extremely long life existed on earth in microbial form (and evolving with multiple generations per day during those billions of years). It also had a nice segment on multicellular life that existed before the Cambrian “explosion”. I’m just waiting for the AiG rebuttal – after all, it was set in Australia, how can Ham resist?

  11. Huh? Wha? Who? Oh.

    Dang, I think Gary is starting to catch on to my secret agenda to overthrown the Darwinist Elite!

    And I think Gabe moved last fall, making him an ex-cheesehead.

  12. TA: “And I think Gabe moved last fall, making him an ex-cheesehead.”

    Come to think of it, he hasn’t posted here in a while. Really miss his Spock-like rationality. (Spock the Vulcan, not the pediatrician.)

  13. I misspelled his name above — or there’s another Gabriel Hanna with a doctorate in Physics currently on staff at the Univ. of Wisconsin – Stout. I could do the right thing and look up his name in the Curmudgeon’s archives, but I’m pressed for time just now.

    Anyway, Gabe, if you’re reading this, I apologize for misspelling your name — either above or here. I trust that was you I found when I Googled “Gabriel Hanna Physics”.

  14. Ok, I took the time and checked the archives — his name is Gabriel Hanna.

  15. I was thinking about this…The band of theologians would not be found alive, they would have long killed themselves off probably over a heated argument such as which side of an egg to crack open or how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. Considering the vast array on what people believe god or gods to be even if one of them is right it doesn’t matter. They might have had the answer, but didn’t show their work, and that is always a fail.
    The NOVA episode was very cool but let me add the oldest rocks are actually in North America.

  16. Troy: “The NOVA episode was very cool but let me add the oldest rocks are actually in North America.”

    How do you know? Were you there? (Wink, wink.)

    Seriously, though, can you recommend a good reference resource for info like oldest rocks, oldest fossil evidence of life, etc.? I use to know a lot of this stuff before retiring from teaching, but haven’t kept up-to-date since. I learned it pre-internet and still do most of my learning from material published on paper. Old habits die hard.

  17. RSG it is actually quite interesting where I found this. I ordered a very cool poster called the correlated history of earth and it mentioned the oldest rocks so I looked it up. Not only that they are for sale at I think around $100 a pop and “made in Canada” (sort of). Of course the Aussie components of rocks are older because as they point out the zircon can endure geologic processes very well.

  18. @Troy: It looks like the oldest rocks are found in Australia and Canada, depending on what you call “rock” (either “rock formation” or “minerals in rock”). This article at Wikipedia is an interesting read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldest_dated_rocks.

    BTW, anyone sending $100 to someone for something advertised as “Earth’s Oldest Rock” is certainly very trusting, to be kind about it.

  19. RSG I was thinking the same thing could easily be a ripoff but got a legit vibe from it. I considered buying it but I don’t really need it, they could always find older rocks at a later time and of course I can go pick up rocks that are a billion+ for free.

  20. @retiredsciguy
    So far as I know, the best reference for the age of the earth (just the geological and radiochronometric evidence, not the paleontological) is Dalrymple’s book “The Age of the Earth.”