Jindal Betrays the Discovery Institute

Durring an interview on NBC News, which you can see here (the link is unreliable), Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal was asked about teaching creationism. The subject comes up near the end, about nine minutes into the video.

For what is virtually a transcript of the Jindal remarks, see this new article from the National Center for Science Education (NCSE): Jindal connects the dots. They quote the creationist governor in his NBC interview as follows, to which we added a bit of bold font:

Jindal said in part, “We have what’s called the Science Education Act that says that if a teacher wants to supplement those materials, if the school board is okay with that, if the state school board is okay with that, they can supplement those materials. … Let’s teach them — I’ve got no problem if a school board, a local school board, says we want to teach our kids about creationism, that people, some people, have these beliefs as well, let’s teach them about ‘intelligent design’.” “What are we scared of?” he asked.

Wow — Jindal just admitted everything the Discoveroids have been denying. You all know about the Louisiana Science Education Act (the LSEA). It was based on the Discovery Institute’s anti-science, anti-evolution, pro-creationism Academic Freedom Act (about which see the Curmudgeon’s Guide to “Academic Freedom” Laws).

In 2008, the Louisiana legislature passed it almost unanimously. The bill was promoted by the Louisiana Family Forum, run by Rev. Gene Mills, and it was signed by the state’s ambition-crazed governor, Bobby Jindal, the Exorcist.

The LSEA, besides being a victory for the Discoveroids, has also been a massive public relations problem. Although the entire rational world has always known what the law is all about, the Discoveroids have steadfastly maintained that the law is not about teaching creationism.

It’s been difficult to maintain that fiction. For example, when the Livingston Parish school board publicly declared that they were going to take advantage of the LSEA to teach creationism, the Discoveroids nearly went berserk. See Bruce Chapman’s Louisiana Damage Control, which was followed by Klinghoffer: “You Caught Us. So What?”.

In spite of such embarrassments, the Discoveroids have continued to insist that their “academic freedom” laws don’t promote creationism. See, e.g., Discoveroids Freak Out over Zack Kopplin

Well, now that Jindal has spoken on the subject, the Discoveroids can quit dancing around. There can’t be any more denials. It should be fun watching the Discoveroids’ reaction. They can’t throw Jindal under the bus the way they did the Livingston Parish school board. And this has happened just when the legislature is considering another bill to repeal the LSEA (see Louisiana Creationism: Zack’s Third Campaign). What are they going to do now?

Update: See Discoveroids: “Bobby Jindal? Who’s He?”

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12 responses to “Jindal Betrays the Discovery Institute

  1. For all his supposed “bright spark” Jindal is not the brightest spark plug in the block. In fact, he is quite stupid and ignorant about government and the law. I think he just blew his chances for a national stage because he just didn’t think it through and any backer should be tuned in to that faux pas.

    Jindal: not smart, loose cannon.

    He’s done.

  2. Remember when Ben Stein was being interviewed on Fox about Expelled, they asked him, does your movie really show “creationism” is being suppressed, he said yeah without blinking an eye.

  3. Darn, I was hoping to make a mint selling “Jindal for President, Share Our Burden” bumper stickers.

  4. What are they going to do now? The same old thing, of course.

  5. What annoys me most about Jindal is that he has a degree in biology.

  6. Having listened to the clip again from the 9 minute mark, this is what should have happened:

    Hoda: Should creationism be taught in schools?

    Jindal: No. Creationism including intelligent design are not science and should not be equated with science. Also, it would be a violation of the Establishment clause to do so, as Louisiana found out in the 80’s. Ha, ha!

    But, it didn’t go that way, did it? Nope, Jindal quoted chapter and verse from the Disco Tute’s playbook – teach the controversy, let the students decide, both sides, beliefs and science, and let the schools decide (to get sued.)

    The Tooters will respond with their boilerplate that they oppose requiring intelligent design creationism be taught in public school. No, the Tooters oppose requiring and mandating ID but they sure aren’t opposed to encouraging voluntary discussion at the risk and peril of the teachers and schools. Nope, the Toot thinks they are off the hook for disavowing something they never advocated. Come on, Klinghitler, we caught you again! Darn!

  7. The Discoveroids will spout their nonsense, but they don’t really matter in this deal – it’s all about what the legislature and the governor intended when they passed the act. Jindal has made it clear; they intended to permit the teaching of creationism, pure and simple. After all, what are they afraid of?

  8. Of course Jindal has no problem with it. It is the district that has to bear the court costs, not the state. The next question should be “When a district gets sued over this, will the state step in and foot the defense bill?

  9. Doc Bill: “But, it didn’t go that way, did it?”

    Sure it did. And it went the other way too. The DI, and their trained parrots like Jindal always try to have it both ways. And when we critics react with the tired old “See! ID is too creationism!” instead of exposing their games, if anything it helps them even more with their target audience. Which is not the ~25% that won’t admit evolution under any circumstances, but another ~50% that falls for anti-evolution sound bites or at least the “fairness” nonsense, because they lack the time and/or interest to undserstand what they are capable of understanding.

    Remember that the “academic freedom” scam is simply to prevent teachers from getting in trouble if they teach “creationism,” ID, or the bogus “critical analysis” of evolution that never mentions (much less critically analyzes) Biblical stories, or the completely vacuous “some desinger did something at some time”. A supporter of that scam does not have to agree with what is taught, but only to defend their “right” to reach it. Both Jindal and Santorum, and a few others in on the scam, have left strong hints that they personally think that ID/creationism is nonsense.

  10. Here is a guy who went out and proclaimed that his party, the Rethuglicans, needed to stop being the “stupid party” and turns around and embraces the most stupid of all beliefs, creationism.

    Jindal is simply a moron. He doesn’t have any “thought” rather what comes out of his pie hole.

  11. Techreseller

    What will the DI do? Lie. Why stop now?