You all know about Zack Kopplin (hey — he’s in Wikipedia: Zack Kopplin) and his tireless efforts to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act (the LSEA). He decided to participate yesterday in a radio show run by the Discoveroids. They first posted about it here: Today on the Medved Show, Discovery Institute’s Casey Luskin Debates Activist Zack Kopplin on Academic Freedom, in which they said, with bold font added by us:
The freedom to teach about both sides of the evolution controversy hangs in the balance around the country as state legislatures consider laws that would protect teachers from administrative retribution if they tell students about scientific critiques of Darwin’s theory. Today, Casey Luskin returns to the Medved Show to debate education activist Zack Kopplin. The topic is academic freedom under fire, on the Science & Culture Update in the second hour of the show.
Zack Kopplin says, when it comes to climate change or Darwinian evolution, we must not present young people with both sides of the question. Casey Luskin, a proponent of academic freedom, disagrees. Who’s right?
Yeah, both sides — science and Oogity Boogity. But just think of it! Zack was going into the lion’s den to face a formidable opponent like Casey. That takes great courage. What happened? Did Casey mop the floor with Zack, and then send him home whimpering in defeat?
The Discoveroids posted this follow-up after the event: Zack Kopplin Thinks Louisianans Are Stupid. It’s by Klinghoffer, and it includes a video of Zack which is 9 minutes long — but to our surprise it’s not the radio show. Instead it’s Zack talking about his efforts to repeal Louisiana’s LSEA.
It’s surprising that the Discoveroids posted that video. It suggests to us that if they had posted a recording of yesterday’s show, it would have looked bad for them. Anyway, here’s what Klinghoffer says about Zack and the radio show:
Education activist Zack Kopplin thinks his fellow Louisianans are a bunch of rubes. And I don’t just mean the Darwin skeptics in Zack’s home state — I mean people in the state as a whole. He said as much in a TED Talk, where the 20-year-old Rice University student speaks about having introduced himself to new friends from out of state with the disclaimer, “I’m from the Louisiana, but I’m not stupid.”
Yes, that’s in the video. So what? It makes a lot of sense to say that, considering all the creationist idiocy for which that state is so widely known. Hey — that’s old stuff. What about the radio show? Klinghoffer says:
But you can really tell how dumb he thinks people from his state are — and, in fact, people in general — by the way he frames his argument against academic-freedom legislation.
Klinghoffer finally gets around to what happened yesterday:
That was my take-away from Zack’s debate this afternoon with Casey Luskin on the Michael Medved Show. Again and again, Zack characterizes the Louisiana Science Education Act as a “creationism” law.
That’s exactly what it is. Otherwise the Discoveroids wouldn’t be so interested in preserving it. We’re going to skip over Klinghoffer’s recital of the usual Discoveroid denials. If you’re not familiar with the issue, see Curmudgeon’s Guide to “Academic Freedom” Laws. Let’s read on:
Superbly informed as always, Casey did a fine job of pointing out that, notwithstanding the appeal of Zack’s enthusiasm, “Just because you keep saying it over and over doesn’t make it true.”
Yes, but that cuts both ways. Just because the Discoveroids keep insisting that the LSEA is not a creationism law doesn’t mean squat, and besides, they’re not fooling anyone. Even the dumbest creationist in the depths of the Louisiana swamps, who would never cheer for a law that really promoted science, will cheer wildly for the LSEA. Klinghoffer continues:
The silliest point Zack made was to observe that at a recent hearing before the state Senate Education Committee on the LSEA repeal effort, Discovery Institute’s Joshua Youngkin was present — a carpetbagger “from the Northwest,” as Zack tried to imply, dropping in a superfluous “Y’all” though Mr. Kopplin otherwise speaks with no discernible Southern accent.
If that was Zack’s silliest point, the rest must have been really devastating. That’s probably why the Discoveroids didn’t post a recording of the actual show. This is a good occasion to use their favorite question against them — What are they afraid of?
It’s rather telling that they don’t have anything else to say about the show — and what Klinghoffer did say is basically nothing. If we come across a recording or something on YouTube, we’ll post it here.
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