Ken Ham: Dinosaurs, Dragons, and the Flood

Traditional young-Earth creationism, based on the literal wording of Genesis, isn’t enough to satisfy Ken Ham (ol’ Hambo), the ayatollah of Appalachia, who runs the on-line ministry Answers in Genesis (AIG), and the infamous, mind-boggling Creation Museum. No, Hambo isn’t content to rely on scripture — he goes out there and finds evidence!

Today, ol’ Hambo has a new essay: Were Dinosaurs Dragons? There’s nothing really new here — after all, we’re dealing with creationism — but it has some amusing moments. Here are some excerpts, with bold font added by us for emphasis:

Inside the museum’s portico is a spectacular new dragon exhibit. The first major sign visitors now see asks: “Were Dinosaurs Dragons?” Now, the atheists will probably mock us and make all sorts of emotional accusations over this striking exhibit. Why? Let me give you some background.

Don’t be so quick to mock ol’ Hambo, dear reader. Wait until you learn what he has to say:

A few years ago, headlines blared about the idea that there must have been a global flood on Mars in order to explain its canyons. Now there’s no liquid water on Mars, yet scientists were happy to propose a global flood on the Red Planet. The atheists didn’t go ballistic over this idea. Here is the irony: secular scientists were happy to propose a global flood on a planet that has no liquid water, but they refuse to allow the possibility of a global flood on a planet that is mostly covered by water: Earth!

That is, shall we say, a slight exaggeration about Mars. Hambo doesn’t cite to any source for his claims, but we easily found this article at the NASA website, The Floodwaters of Mars. It opines that certain Martian surface features are explained by flooding on Mars that occurred about three billion years ago. But note, dear reader, that NASA makes no suggestion about a global flood on Mars. Let’s read on:

In fact, secularists mock those of us who believe in a global Flood on earth, and they call such an idea “anti-science.” Why is this so? Well, the simple answer is that to believe in a global Flood on earth is to agree, heaven forbid, with what the Bible teaches! And man’s unregenerate heart doesn’t want to believe.

Aaaargh!! Perhaps the explanation lies in the fact that we actually see evidence of some long-ago, localized flooding on Mars (and on Earth too), but we see no evidence — zero! — of any global flood on either planet. But Hambo doesn’t think along those lines. Instead, what follows are some scripture quotes about how the wicked refuse to believe. But he doesn’t stop there. Hambo then gives his evidence for Noah’s flood:

Actually, there is other evidence that confirms the Bible’s account of a global Flood. There are hundreds of flood legends in cultures around the world that have elements similar to the Bible’s account. Past cultures (e.g., Babylonian) also have such legends. This is all consistent with the real Flood account being handed down from Noah through the people at the Tower of Babel.

We’ve been through this before. In ICR: Even More Proof of the Flood we discussed all those allegedly similar flood legends. Except for similarities in the Middle East, due to the influence of the Gilgamesh tale, other flood legends from elsewhere talk about boats and water (quite understandably so) but they somehow omit some vital details — like the rainbow, and most importantly, not one of them preserves the name of Noah. And there are other ancient societies — like Egypt — with no legend of a global flood. Hambo continues, and now it gets stranger:

Globally, there are many ancient descriptions and images of dragons. Interestingly, many of these descriptions and images are similar to drawings and depictions of how scientists believe dinosaurs would have looked. It makes sense: just as flood legends have a basis in a real event, dragon legends also have a basis in reality — that people saw animals they called “dragons.”

There are also legends and drawings that describe flying horses, winged lions, mermaids, centaurs, etc., but Hambo very selectively ignores all of those. He likes dragons, but not those other creatures. Here’s more:

Now, secularists mock the idea that dragons [scripture references] were real, and that they include dinosaurs. This is because it would mean dinosaurs once lived with people, and evolutionists are adamant in their religion that dinosaurs died out millions of years before humans supposedly evolved. To believe dinosaurs lived with people would mean that evolution and its millions of years are not true.

Or to put that another way, to accept the scientific evidence would mean that Genesis isn’t true. Moving along:

As soon as a Christian proposes something that makes sense about dinosaurs, evolutionists attack it as outlandish and anti-science.

Have you seen anything in Hambo’s article so far that makes sense, dear reader? We’re open-minded around here, so feel free to tell us what you think. Here’s another excerpt:

Praise the Lord, we have a Creation Museum and other resources that present the truth of God’s Word to the public. All this helps overcome the censorship and blatant atheistic, evolutionary domination seen in education, museums, and media.

The article dribbles on for a few more paragraphs, but we’ll skip that. So there you are — thanks to Hambo and his team at AIG, now you’re up-to-date on the latest creation science.

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20 responses to “Ken Ham: Dinosaurs, Dragons, and the Flood

  1. Ol’ Hambo explains why the world scoff’s at his prosletysing efforts:

    …man’s unregenerate heart doesn’t want to believe.

    Or: following the discoveries of the Enlightenment, man’s educated brain can no longer be conned.

  2. One day Ol’ Hambo is going to have a such a fit that he’ll split himself in two.

  3. A very interesting, nay compelling, read is Adrienne Mayor’s “The First Fossil Hunters; Dinosaurs, Mammoths and Myth in Greek and Roman Times” (ISBN 0-691-05863-6). It presents a strong case for the interpretation of fossil remains to be attributed to mythical creatures. It is a forensic tale told in marvelous prose. Perhaps Ken Ham needs to read it.

  4. Ganf says: “Perhaps Ken Ham needs to read it.”

    Hambo is too holy to read anything but scripture.

  5. “…we easily found this article at the NASA website, The Floodwaters of Mars. It opines that certain Martian surface features are explained by flooding on Mars that occurred about three billion years ago.

    Three billion years ago. Now that’s a key point that Ham understandably would leave out. That’s plenty of time for the water to escape from the weaker gravity of Mars.

    On the other hand, the biblical flood myth has the water appearing within “40 days and 40 nights” and receding just about as rapidly (where all that water comes from and where it recedes to is unanswered).

    Theists hold that God made everything in the universe. Well, then, “everything” would include the laws of physics as well. In all of our observations of the universe, we see that God always follows His own rules (if indeed there is a God).

    Ham should write a book explaining these observations.

  6. docbill1351

    @RSG

    Three billion years ago!!!

    Were you there??????

  7. Well, the simple answer is that to believe in a global Flood on earth is to agree, heaven forbid, with what the Bible teaches!

    AND it requires disbelief in all of the sciences of physics, astronomy, geology and biology, to mention a few, despite how much progress we’ve made in our knowledge and abilities through those sciences And they’re happy enough building faux museums using steel and plastics and animatronics, as well as to use computers to preach and advertise their carnival attractions. But, heaven forbid, they can’t trust “man’s word” that gave them all those tools and so much more.

    But who needs reality when you’ve got Bronze Age myths?

  8. I find it amusing that Ham has added mythical creatures to “update” the museum. Since there is never any real scientific progress supporting creationism, let’s throw in some fun stuff like dragons (and a zip-line)! What’s next? Vampires, werewolves, and fairies? Oh, yeah, those were/are demons, Neanderthals, and angels…

    /headdesk

  9. Ceteris Paribus

    Barney was a purple dinosaur
    Barney was televised on PBS
    Tinky Winky was a purple Teletubbie
    Tinky Winky was televised on PBS
    Jerry Falwell said Tinky Winky was gay
    Jerry Falwell hated gays and PBS
    Jerry Falwell said gays and PBS will go to the Eternal Lake of Fire

    But Ken Ham likes dinosaurs, and even put one in his own museum.

    Therefore, either Ken Ham is gay, or destined for the Eternal Lake of Fire anyway, on general principles not connected to gender identity.

  10. Good catch on that flooding of mars never being “global” as Ken Ham claims…I’m going to spread that around a bit.

  11. A point that slightly puzzles me, and can only be explained if we assume that Ken Ham is somewhat slapdash in his reasoning: non-bird dinosaurs lasted on Earth for some 150 million years. “What killed the dinosaurs” is a classic puzzle precisely because it’s not at all clear why they should all have vanished 65 million years ago. Nothing in evolutionary theory prevents non-bird dinosaurs from living alongside humans; it’s just that the complete absence of their fossils or later remains after the K-Pg boundary indicates that in fact they didn’t. True, it would be very odd and very unexpected if actual Cretaceous species had survived til today, just as it would be odd if actual Jurassic species had survived to the end of the Cretaceous, but Ham doesn’t seem to be arguing that any legendary “dragon” can be identified with any particular Mesozoic species.

  12. docbill asks, “Three billion years ago!!! Were you there??????”

    Actually, I retired from teaching when I realized a majority of my 7th grade students thought I was there.

  13. How true Egypt has no record of Noah or a global flood,but very detailed natural rise and falls of the Nile,leading to the fertility of the region. And record of Abraham hanging out for a while too. What disturbs me tho is Ham’s mention of this supposed censorship of creation,etc going on. These attempts to act like Christianity/creation beliefs are being persecuted is just ridiculous. If it gains traction,and people start to think that just m a y b e……we should throw a little God sprinkle on our evolution DNA our education is in even more trouble.

  14. Charles Deetz ;)

    @Ken, there should be a law like Godwin’s Law about invoking censorship … and ironically complaining in a publicly posted article that is obviously unencumbered by outside forces. At the very least it shows he has lost control.

  15. Censor them from lying about being censored……LOVE IT!

  16. Well, if Ham’s going to complain about being censored, I’ll just post a link here to this post where I show that it’s the AIG people who do the censoring.

  17. @Reynold: Ken Ham cannot allow anyone to plant seeds of doubt in the minds of his flock of sheep. His livelihood depends on a steady flow of income from his museum and donations to his yet-to-be-built Ark Park. The IRS should do some investigating there. It’s totally illegal for Ham to use tax-exempt donations meant for construction of the Ark Park for any other purpose, such as his living expenses, new cars, yachts, etc.

    How much has been donated so far? Something like $12 million? That’s a lot of money to pay for preliminary planning.

  18. @reynold

    that’s beautiful. i knew they lie but you provide elegant proof of the way they censor comments. i especially like how the one commentator tried to claim that evolution led separation of church and state.

  19. Must make note of a first for me – passing through Midway Airport I spotted a T-Shirt with the Creation Museum logo and a dinosaur on the front, and the back said something like “I saw it and I believe it” – somehow I resisted the temptation to engage the wearer, and headed to Harry Carey’s for a brew.

  20. Douglas E notes:

    I spotted a T-Shirt with the Creation Museum logo and a dinosaur on the front, and the back said something like “I saw it and I believe it” – somehow I resisted the temptation to engage the wearer

    Commendable restraint, to be sure. Most of us would have been unable to resist selling this sucker the deeds to the Brooklyn Bridge–and then treating the rest of us to a round of brews at Harry Carey’s with the proceeds.