Ken Ham Scoffs at Conspiracy Theories

The news that the tickets for the Bill Nye-Ken Ham debate swiftly sold out, about which see Ham-Nye Debate Tickets All Sold Out, has apparently spawned chatter on the internet that has offended Ken Ham (ol’ Hambo) and his creationist ministry, Answers in Genesis (AIG).

Hambo has just posted this: Does the AiG Website Discriminate Against Atheists? He says, with bold font added by us:

[I]t seems there are atheists who must believe we have a computer program in place that can somehow detect secularists and block them out. We just had to shake our heads when we read many comments on atheist blogs about the tickets to the debate being sold out in 120 seconds!

Yes, only a fool would believe in such a thing. Conspiracies are bunk! Well, some aren’t. Perhaps you recall what was reported by Bloomberg in their story about the problems ol’ Hambo was having in selling his Ark Encounter bonds. We quoted them in Ken Ham’s Ark Bonds — 04 Jan 2014 Update:

“The associated complications and struggles have been beyond our control,” said Ham, who cited impediments such as atheists registering for the offering and disrupting it. “I urge you to please prayerfully consider the options and help us get this bond offering completed.”

By the way, the deadline for the bond sale is 06 Feb. Hambo needs to sell another $28.5 million worth of bonds by that date. If he doesn’t, all the money from bond sales must be refunded. And the debate with Bill Nye is 04 Feb. We hope Hambo isn’t so distracted by the bond deal that he won’t be able to focus on the debate. Let’s keep reading:

Some evolutionists who couldn’t get tickets within that two-minute window stated that the museum was actually trying to pack the auditorium with its supporters. One secularist declared that we supposedly want “to keep science people and other trouble-makers out, so that the audience will be all drooling creationists.”

Oh dear — that’s a quote from your Curmudgeon’s post. But when we said that, we were trying to figure out why a photo ID was required for admission. Hambo continues:

Well, the online registration for debate tickets was open to everyone. There was no way our software could detect a creationist from an evolutionist!

Okay, the sales weren’t screened by software. That settles the audience-packing issue, because there’s no other conceivable way those tickets could have been placed in friendly hands. But Hambo has more to say about it:

Here is an irony: one of the things I’ve noticed over the years is that secularists have often attacked AiG by claiming we don’t do proper scientific research. Yet these same people will make ignorant statements against us in an attempt to undermine our integrity — without thinking through their logic or doing any research!

BWAHAHAHAHAHA! Only AIG does proper scientific research. Moving along:

There has also been criticism that we made it our policy to ask for a photo ID when people will pick up their purchased debate tickets at the museum, as if we will be screening out evolutionist at that time. Of course, that’s nonsense as well. …

Why an ID? It’s to help avoid the scenario of people buying debate tickets and scalping them for a big profit. Thus we are insisting that the purchaser himself or herself will be using the tickets. Therefore, when tickets are picked up, the photo ID can be validated against our registration list. That’s all it is. …. Now you know why we are insisting on IDs to pick up the tickets.

Glad that’s cleared up. It wouldn’t be right for anyone to make any money from this event. Another excerpt:

It’s remarkable to what lengths some secularists will go in order to create bizarre conspiracies out of nothing!

Yes — besides, secularists have more important things to do — like disrupting the sale of Hambo’s bonds. Ah, here’s some information:

Many people have asked if the debate will be streamed live online. Yes, it will. Because of the enormous interest in the debate, we are working with our tech people and outside contractors to ensure we have the necessary equipment and ability to live stream to large numbers of people. For many reasons, this service is quite costly. … For cost reasons and a number of other factors, we are charging a nominal fee for live web streaming — and you can put that amount toward the purchase of the DVD set when it come [sic] out after the debate.

Then he gives this link to where you can sign up for the the live video stream. It’ll cost you $4.99, but it won’t cost your Curmudgeon anything. We don’t intend to sign up.

So there you are. Now you have two dates to remember in February: the big debate is on the fourth, and the make-or-break deadline for Hambo’s bond sale is the sixth. Make that three dates — Darwin’s 205th birthday is on 12 February.

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31 responses to “Ken Ham Scoffs at Conspiracy Theories

  1. SC said:
    “Okay, the sales weren’t screened by software. That settles the audience-packing issue, because there’s no other conceivable way those tickets could have been placed in friendly hands.”

    Not necessarily true. Ham and the AIG surely have an extensive list of donors, subscribers, friends of AIG, et. al who could easily have been matched thorugh the ticket sale process.

  2. Or simply never actually open the sales (claiming otherwise), and sell to your donors. No technical expertise or atheist detection needed.

    Wasn’t it AiG that claimed it was being hit by atheist DOS attacks a few years ago, when there system couldn’t handle … whatever event they were hosting … memory fails me.

  3. Dave Godfrey

    We only have Mr Lie’s word that all tickets were sold in two minutes. And considering Mr Lie’s word is worthless, that claim is similarly worthless.

  4. It’s not a conspiracy unless it’s hidden. This is about as obvious as it gets. There was never any intention of making the tickets available for anyone but the specially selected people who will softball Ken and jump on Bill with two feet.

    Why did Bill ever even consider this?

  5. Their explanation for radiometric dating is that it’s a vast, mulitnational, multilingual conspiracy spanning half a century, with no conspirator squealing and no document trail.

  6. Ceteris Paribus

    Ham truthfully states:

    “[I]t seems there are atheists who must believe we have a computer program in place that can somehow detect secularists and block them out. We just had to shake our heads when we read many comments on atheist blogs about the tickets to the debate being sold out in 120 seconds!”

    I hold this to be the Gospel Truth. With computers humming their digital packets across the aether at Tera-bytes per second, the ability to produce that outcome is far beyond the ken of Man. Or even the Ken of Ham.

    Quite obviously, the ticket distribution was handled by a much more powerful agency: Ken’s Demon.

    It happens that Ken’s Demon is the biblical twin of Maxwell’s Demon, who earlier found steady employment in the Entropy industry, separating high and low energy molecules so as to have an orderly universe for Creation and prevent dissipation by Eviloution.

  7. Tomato Addict “Or simply never actually open the sales (claiming otherwise), and sell to your donors.”

    Exactly. Or give them away. And Ham’s claim that people might be “buying debate tickets and scalping them for a big profit” is absolutely laughable. If he was so sure this would happen, he would have priced the tickets at $200 apiece.

  8. Stephen Kennedy

    I think there is a conspiracy when Hambo has said absolutely nothing to his followers about the issuance of bonds to finance his ark and the looming February 6 deadline by which he has to sell an additional $29 million in bonds or the project is dead.

    Ham’s plea to “step out in faith with him” is not going to sway the institutional investors that have so far avoided this offering, making it very unlikely that the ark will never be built. Yet Ham is still asking little kids to empty their piggy banks and send the money to AIG.

    A decent and honorable man would have told his followers that the project they are contributing to has almost no chance of coming to fruition. If the $29 million more in bonds is not sold by Feb. 6, is there any chance that Ham will man up and actually inform his followers on his website that the ark project is dead? People like the commenters on this blog read publications like Businessweek and are aware of the situation but it is unlikely that those that follow Ham on the AIG website know anything about the bond sale situation and never will.

  9. Is there any way we can monitor Kenny the Ham’s progress in unloading the remaining junk bonds? I inquiring minds want to know.

  10. waldteufel asks: “Is there any way we can monitor Kenny the Ham’s progress in unloading the remaining junk bonds?”

    These aren’t public trades, so only the underwriter knows. Maybe they’ll provide info to Bloomberg or some other news source, but otherwise, unless Hambo says something, we won’t know until it’s done.

  11. 900 tickets, with any one person being able to order no more than five, all sold out over the telephone in just two minutes – well that is more plausible than ‘catastrophic plate tectonics’ anyway.
    I haven’t read the new Ham comments but the guy just loves being offended – or more importantly telling the world that he is offended by nasty evolutionists and atheists.

  12. I would assume the ‘atheist’ allegation is that there were NOT really 900 tickets available by phone yesterday – because many places had already been set aside in advance for a hoped-for YEC church-based audience.

  13. David K and Tomato Addict, I think you missed SC’s tongue in cheek.

  14. Maybe it’s just me, but it does seem that ol’ Hambeaux is spending more time lately whining about secularists, atheists, and other rational people who are daring to question the motives and activities of his sublime self.

  15. Stephen Kennedy

    waldteufel asks: “Is there any way we can monitor Kenny the Ham’s progress in unloading the remaining junk bonds?”

    AIG would never release that information directly but I have found a way from information on their website to make a fairly accurate estimate. If you go to the Ark Encounter section and scroll down you will see a running tally of how many Lifetime Boarding Passes are still available for sale. AIG gives a free lifetime boarding pass to anyone who purchases $100,000 worth of bonds. The number had remained the same for months and then dropped by about 15 during November and early December of last year. It was on that basis that I made my prediction they had sold about $10 million in bonds by the time of the first closing on 12/19/13. There was then a flurry of activity over the holidays with about another 15 being subtracted from the total.

    It would appear that in the two weeks after the first closing AIG really pressed a lot of people who told them in October they would buy bonds but failed to do so in December. It is likely that the holiday sales which brought the total bonds sold to $26.5 million as of 1/3/14 was reflected by the decrease in lifetime boarding passes that took place during that time.

    Currently, there are 814 family passes and 286 individual passes still available and this number is unchanged from last Friday when Bloomberg broke the story of the need to sell another $29 million worth by Feb. 6th. So it looks like there has been no immediate response from AIG supporters to buy significant amounts of bonds over the past few days.

    Institutional investors will not touch these bonds so I imagine that AIG is targeting wealthy Christian fundamentalists who could live with a bond purchase essentially becoming a donation. My guess is that if there are more than 790 family passes still available on Feb. 6, the ark project is dead.

  16. Ashley Haworth-roberts: “I would assume the ‘atheist’ allegation is that there were NOT really 900 tickets available by phone yesterday – because many places had already been set aside in advance for a hoped-for YEC church-based audience.”

    Yes, that’s right — although I’m more of an agnostic than an atheist.

  17. What irritates Shambo is that he will have to REFUND the money if the bond effort fails.

    That will hurt!

    I wonder how much bond money has already gone down the Ham-hole, i.e. his pockets. A lot, I suspect. To repay the “investors” he’ll need to dip into his museum funds.

    Yeah, Shambo is hurting! Prayfully, speaking that is.

  18. docbill1351 says: “I wonder how much bond money has already gone down the Ham-hole, i.e. his pockets.”

    I doubt that the underwriters have released any of it. I assume they’re the ones who will have to give it back.

  19. Wasn’t it shown some time ago that jam ham site recorded where people linked in from and if they had previously clicked on certain sites.

  20. Scalpers? Give me a break. Why would Ham care if the person that shows up obtained the ticket from someone else? The only possible reason that he would care is it matters to him who, specifically, shows up. That and the fact that the tickets disappeared so quickly is certainly good circumstantial evidence that he will be packing the audience.

    We’ll know in February. Hopefully some brave soul with a strong stomach will watch the stream and provide a report.

  21. Ed Notes: “Hopefully some brave soul with a strong stomach will watch the stream and provide a report.”

    It won’t be me, for sure. I’ve written off the 4th as “Nye’s Folly.” But, it’s the 6th I’ll be looking to, with great interest. Will Hambeauxl find enough wealthy knuckle draggers to fund his Ship of Fools? Let’s hope it sinks before it’s launched.

    By the way, Stephen, thanks for your tip on tracking this unseemly junk bond business.

  22. waldteufel complements, “By the way, Stephen, thanks for your tip on tracking this unseemly junk bond business.”

    What he said +1. Hear, hear!

  23. Charles Deetz ;)

    Is this how Noah raised money to build his ark? Think of all his investors, who got drowned and never saw their money back. Ham’s potential investors should think this thru before helping him out!

  24. “Then he gives this link to where you can sign up for the the live video stream. It’ll cost you $4.99, but it won’t cost your Curmudgeon anything. We don’t intend to sign up.”

    Perhaps Bill Nye will set up his own live stream — for free. And produce his own DVD as well. Waddiya say, Bill?

  25. Retiredscigut: “Perhaps Bill Nye will set up his own live stream — for free. And produce his own DVD as well. Waddiya say, Bill?”

    Horror of horrors, could it be that Nye is so naive that he granted all of the recording rights to Hambeaux? One shudders.

  26. I’m surprised and disappointed that Mr Nye is allowing himself to be used like this.

  27. When reading Kanny Hambug’s explanation of the ticket sales saga, it’s probably worth bearing in mind the supreme irony in this man’s being a consummate … er … uhm … apologist, parading a procession of tenets garishly disguised as conclusions.

  28. On the sidebar (scroll down) on Ole Hambo’s article is a panel labelled Comments About the Live Streaming of the Debate, which includes inter alia the following comment from a keen Hamist (purportedly):

    “I am all for you making money off this event … it can fund the Ark project! Can’t wait to get my DVD.”

    Bill Nye, you really have been suckered into fund-raising for the Ayatollah of Appalachia…

  29. Apologies to retiredsciguy for the typo misspelling his name above.

  30. Thanks, waldteufel, but no apology needed. I recognized it as a typo because the “T” and “Y” are adjacent on the keyboard. Luckily, I’ve been able to avoid the “BGS” of getting old (Big Gut Syndrome).

  31. Spectror567 said:

    Wasn’t it shown some time ago that jam ham site recorded where people linked in from and if they had previously clicked on certain sites.

    This is pretty common practice for any website. Anyone who has a web server set up can use cookies (and a few other, more specialized tricks) to know where you came from.