Creationist Wisdom #405: Bullying by Teachers

Today’s letter-to-the-editor appears in the Elko Daily Free Press of Elko, Nevada. It’s titled: Atheistic bullies in academia.

We don’t like to embarrass people (unless they’re politicians, preachers, or other public figures), but in this case the letter-writer is Daniel DuSoleil of Spring Creek (near Elko) and he is pastor of the Christian Center of Elko. We’ll give you a few excerpts from the rev’s letter, enhanced with our Curmudgeonly commentary and some bold font for emphasis. Okay, here we go:

Einstein dismissed atheists; he felt they were too haughty: “There are people who say there is no God. But what makes me really angry is that they quote me for support of such views.”

Aaaargh!! It’s absurd to quote-mine Einstein. He’s one of the most studied people who ever lived. Virtually everything he ever wrote or said is in print somewhere, and it’s not difficult to figure out what he believed and said. But creationists are unrestrained in their willingness to distort reality in the service of their beliefs. We found that mined quote in Wikipedia’s article on Religious views of Albert Einstein We’ll put the rev’s quote in blue and the part he left out in red:

Einstein rejected the label atheist. Einstein stated: “I have repeatedly said that in my opinion the idea of a personal God is a childlike one. You may call me an agnostic, but I do not share the crusading spirit of the professional atheist whose fervor is mostly due to a painful act of liberation from the fetters of religious indoctrination received in youth. I prefer an attitude of humility corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of nature and of our own being.” According to Prince Hubertus, Einstein said, “In view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human mind, am able to recognize, there are yet people who say there is no God. But what really makes me angry is that they quote me for the support of such views.

We’re off to a great start. Let’s read on:

Einstein believed the universe demonstrated intelligent design.

Aaaargh!! That’s just too absurd. Not even the Discoveroids have dared to claim Einstein as one of their own. Last year we wrote about another letter-to-the editor which claimed that Einstein had that belief — see #343: Einstein, Creationist. We continue with the rev’s letter:

I’ve also noticed the atheists’ arrogant attitude, but what really angers me is when atheistic instructors bully students.

The imaginary issue of bullying in this context is a creation (so to speak) of the Discoveroids, so we assume that’s where the rev gets his information. However, the rev then gives us an example of what he sees as bullying:

There is a poster in the foyer of the science offices at GBC that reads, “ATHEISM: Look, nobody really knows where all this s**t came from. But I think I’d rather trust the dudes in the labcoats who aren’t demanding I get up every Sunday to overdress and apologize for being human.” What an offensive way to denigrate Christian students. Also, in the area is a parody of the sacred Christian fish symbol.

The rev assumes that we all know what GBC is. Well, we can take a good guess — Great Basin College is located in Elko, Nevada. Here’s more:

When I was taking my last science course [BWAHAHAHAHAHA!], a cartoon was posted in the hall equating those that believe in Intelligent Design with a supposed belief in a flat earth. Since it is a complete myth that the Medieval Church believed that the earth was flat, I chuckled at the idiocy of the cartoonist and the ignoramus who posted it; however, the attempt to ridicule believing students is not funny.

Yes and no. The Greeks knew the Earth was a sphere, but that view never found its way into scripture, not even in the New Testament, as we’ve shown in The Earth Is Flat. After Rome collapsed, the view of the Church was muddled, with some writers who said it was flat, but round. But flat Earth wasn’t a big part of Church teaching during the Dark Ages. Nevertheless, they didn’t know as much about the Earth’s shape and size as the Greeks did, and the bible’s information on that subject is totally wrong. Moving along, the rev returns to his bullying theme:

Students have complained to me about being intimidated and ridiculed by science teachers. After I gave a presentation on false methods used in teaching evolution, one student said she had been called “stupid” in front of a class because she would not accept the fraudulent evolutionary evidence of Haeckel’s embryos.

*Sigh* Haeckel’s embryos again. See what TalkOrigins says about it in their Index to Creationist Claims: Haeckel faked his pictures of embryos. If the student tried to use that issue as a disproof of evolution (as we suspect she did), then she probably deserved ridicule — although it’s not very professional for a teacher to do that in a classroom. Another excerpt:

What other group could be ridiculed in this way? What if cartoons and propaganda were posted making fun of gays, feminists, blacks or Muslims?

Boo hoo. It’s a cruel world. At the end of his letter, the rev shows us what a great guy he is:

I would support the right of these teachers to post their biased views, if they allowed the open exchange of ideas. I tried to imagine myself putting up a poster ridiculing atheistic students; I couldn’t do it. Maybe that’s because I wake up early on Sundays.

So there you are. The rev doesn’t approve of what he considers “bullying.” We don’t care. We shall continue to ridicule creationism, and that includes adding the rev’s letter to our ever-growing collection.

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8 responses to “Creationist Wisdom #405: Bullying by Teachers

  1. Whenever I see stuff like this I want to ask “Who made Einstein the authority over all atheists or scientists or anyone else?” Regardless of the quotemine (which is an epic lie anyway).

  2. What a farce. Revver DuSoleil jettisoned all credibility when he attempted to abduct Einstein under an IDiot yoke. Nonetheless, it’s intensely intriguing that, coming from a Protestant/Evangelical tradition (as is clear from the Christian Center of Elko website), our Revver DuSoleil praises the “Medieval Church” as a shining light of insight and erudition. Not only does he not denounce the RCC as the Antichrist, he also seems content with the idea that if it wasn’t for the RCC, his own beliefs most likely would not even have existed in their present form, if at all.

    Faith makes for oddest of bedfellows.

  3. Richard Olson

    Student ABC in university, or better yet high school, biology class: “Well, what about the fake embryo pictures that Haeckel guy produced? Evolution is the biggest fraud ever (yes, Rush, bigger even than climate change). Like Rep. Broun the M.D. says, evolution is a lie straight from Satan.”

    Teacher: “I am not familiar with these photo’s, if that is what they are. We’ll set the Haekel question aside for today and continue with our scheduled material. I promise to research the matter and reply to it.”

    Next day, in biology class, the teacher calls for the student’s attention. “Class, I have an assignment for you based on the question ABC posed yesterday about Haekel’s embryo pictures. On the board behind me, top left, I have written a number of links to different web sites that comment on this issue.

    “Due Monday is a two page paper comparing and contrasting the claims made from at least two of the sites. One chosen site must support the claim the pictures are fake, and it is required you utilize one site that disputes the claim. Your paper must be no less than one and no more than two pages long, it must compare and contrast opposing claim statements and review the evidence offered in support of each, and it must include a final paragraph with your own personal assessment of the claim that Haeckel published faked embryo photographs.

    “Footnotes are required as necessary, and will not be included as text count. More than one single source for/against is encouraged, but only if you cite references iaw research paper standards. You will be graded based in part on deliberate ommissions of evidence that dispute claim statements pro or con. If your parent’s have concerns about this assignment, my phone number and hours to call are on the assignment sheet I am passing around, as well as my email address.

    “For this particular assignment, parental participation in the research is encouraged. I hope we will all learn something useful from this critical thinking exercise.”

  4. Stephen Kennedy

    People that make the absurd claims about science that biblical creationists do, can hardly expect to be taken seriously in academia.

  5. The (not very) Reverend Daniel DuSoleil made deliberate false statements and omissions in his letter. He probably felt justified in doing this, since they were in “defense of his faith.”

    However, his actions beg the question — “If you were a person of faith, would you trust your soul to this man?”

  6. Preachers live and work in a “top-down” culture. As such, they are unable to function in a culture of skepticism. So . . . they lie cheerfully and earnestly in order to prop up arguments that they are unable to defend with hard data and logic. Many of them don’t even know the difference between data and opinion.
    And logic? The Rev reveals to us that he is innocent of it.

  7. How does the 9th Commandment (according to some the 8t) go again?

  8. Charles Deetz ;)

    1. Smart guy doesn’t like athiests
    2. Bible isn’t really firm on flat earth.
    3. Some pictures of embryos may have been incorrect.

    Thus squeezing creationists for justification of their beliefs is bullying.,