Klinghoffer Admits Intelligent Design Is Theism

This has been a long time coming, but now we have it. The incredibly silly game of “Yes you are!” and “No we’re not!” has finally come to an end.

Today’s Discoveroid confession is from David Klinghoffer, their journalistic slasher and poo flinger. Recently he stated that the Discoveroids’ intelligent designer — blessed be he! — has the quality of transcendence. That theological term means their designer is not of this universe. He exists beyond time and space, which has previously been said only of Yahweh. Klinghoffer made that unexpected admission in this Discoveroid post.

But now he’s going all the way. His latest announcement is at the Discoveroids’ creationist blog: What’s the Nature of the Source of Cosmic and Biological Design? Meyer Gets Specific. He says, with bold font added by us:

In discussing Cosmos and related matters, we’re kind of in the habit of talking as if there were just two alternatives: a Neil deGrasse Tyson-esque materialism or its reverse, a view of reality amenable to intelligent design. That’s reasonable: it keeps things streamlined.

Yes, the choices are either reality — as described and explained by science — or Oogity Boogity — which is indescribable and inexplicable. What’s wrong with that?

Klinghoffer says there are more alternatives. He refers to a video embedded in his post, which we haven’t looked at, and he explains:

What’s very helpful about this interview with Stephen Meyer, conducted by John Ankerberg, is that Steve details the four, not two, possible world-views: materialism, theism, deism and pantheism.

Ah, four worldviews. But the last three are variants of Oogity Boogity. Let’s read on:

He treats these as hypotheses and asks, given the evidence of design at the beginning of the universe, at the origin of life, and at the origin of complex animal life, which best accommodates and explains the data?

A profound question! Well, it’s only profound if you ignore the absence of evidence which Meyer says is a given. So what’s the answer? Klinghoffer reveals that in the next sentence, which is also the final sentence of his brief post:

Only theism, of course, allows for a source of design that is “transcendent, intelligent, and active in history,” and that is exactly what the evidence demands.

Wow — not even deism will satisfy the Discoveroids. Deism was the belief of many of the Founding Fathers in the glory days of the Enlightenment. But that’s not supernatural enough. Only full-blown theism is consistent with the “science” of the Discoveroids.

We don’t know about you, dear reader, but this has really surprised us. Finally, Klinghoffer admits what the Discoveroids have always denied — but which everyone has known since their wedge strategy slipped out into public view. Their so-called theory of intelligent design is nothing but theism. This is memorable, and it’s likely to have consequences in future litigation over whether their “theory” can be taught in public schools.

Well, David, now that you’re out of the closet, as it were, don’t you feel better?

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18 responses to “Klinghoffer Admits Intelligent Design Is Theism

  1. docbill1351

    Oh, Curmie! YOU FOOL! You fell for the oldest trick in the ID creationism playbook!

    “Theism” is merely, only, by happenstance Meyer’s PERSONAL opinion! It’s his personal opinion, not what the ID science leads to. Meyer is entitled to, nay, demands the right to his personal opinion which in NO WAY, NO HOW reflects on the “science” of ID, which is TOTALLY independent of Meyer’s PERSONAL opinion.

    So, you see, Curmie, ID is still science. How could you be such an IDiot?

  2. No, SC, I’m not surprised. Not at all. I have predicted it a couple of months ago. The IDiots from Seattle have given up. If you want to know why check your excellent coverage of their top-10 at the end of 2013.

  3. Charles Deetz ;)

    … given the evidence of design at the beginning of the universe …

    Talk about framing the question.

  4. I have to wonder if little pathetic Casey is now cringing at the bottom of his closet, with is thumb in his mouth sucking, whining, and clinging to his security blanket while rocking back and forth, mumbling: “But it’s the Scientific Theory of Intelligent Design .. . ..It’s the Scientific Theory of Intelligent Design…..It’s the . . …. . . . . .. … … . .. . .”

    Et tu, Klingklepooper?

  5. That’s what they said/implied in their Wedgie Document all along! No surprise, but yes, hopefully it will have educational, and political, consequences. Maybe it will even help in Louisiana. But no more “teach both sides” nonsense, and Casey and West should recall their “Traipsing into Evolution” book that denounced the Dover trial and trashed the judge.

  6. bewilderbees

    Prior to this admission did-eth he not deny his God thrice with all his ducking and diving? Shouldn’t he be well on his way to his theistic hell? Thirty three times thrice, in fact . . .

  7. ÷I was not of any ID claims about what has happened since the Cambrian. What leads K. to the belief that the Designer has been active recently?

  8. It’ll be interesting to see what sort of spin the rest of the Dissembling Institute puts on Klangerhuffer’s admission. Can they intelligently design an evasion? Or will we see a crock o’ duckin’?

  9. TomS wonders

    What leads K. to the belief that the Designer has been active recently?

    That’s easy! In fact, our Curmy reported on this just a few days ago in the ‘Bizarro World Free Fire Zone’ of 27 April: Jesus Christ’s face shows up in a California pancake..

    What more proof could anyone need?

  10. I always considered I.D. to be a touchy, feely, user friendly form of Deism. Now the Discoveroids have reduced themselves to being A.I.G. with a fancier vocabulary.

  11. anevilmeme says: “Now the Discoveroids have reduced themselves to being A.I.G. with a fancier vocabulary.”

    Less Genesis and Jesus, more jive and gee whiz.

  12. lanceleuven

    “[G]iven the evidence of design at the beginning of the universe, at the origin of life, and at the origin of complex animal life…”

    Ah, but were you there? Game. Set. Match.

  13. “Cdesign proponentsists decloak; chaos ensues!”

  14. Only theism, of course, allows for a source of design that is “transcendent, intelligent, and active in history,” and that is exactly what the evidence demands.

    Evidence which the DI has yet to produce, and which only they perceive.

  15. This was a long time coming and I am not surprised. They have been warming up to this new shift in direction for a long time, and I presume it’s because they have finally accepted that their farce was never going to go anywhere.

  16. They now realize they will not be selling textbooks to public school systems. They are now going after the huge market provided by Christian academies and other religious schools, so they need to be upfront with the “Godidit” aspect of their “Intelligent Design”.

  17. @retiredsciguy: You are right, of course. Religion is such a scam.

  18. SC: “Less Genesis and Jesus, more jive and gee whiz.”

    And in Klinghoffer’s case, even less Jesus than ultra-“Darwinists” like Ken Miller, Francis Collins, and that new saint, who made one of the strongest statements for evolution and against creationism.

    As you, if not all your readers, know, nothing here is new. The DI gave away the game at least 15 years ago (when the Wedge document was leaked and they didn’t deny it). But as you also know, what annoys me lately as much as the antics of anti-evolution activists, is when “Darwinists” who know better keep pretending that it’s big news.