Creationist Wisdom #465: Form and Power

This is more than a coincidence, dear reader. When one considers the odds against finding two letters-to-the-editor for our collection in the same newspaper, two days in a row, the conclusion is inescapable. Yet that is exactly the situation with which we are confronted. Make of it what you will.

Today’s letter-to-the-editor appears in the Register-Herald of Beckley, West Virginia — proudly known as “The Gateway to Southern West Virginia.” The letter is titled Scientists believe in things they can’t see.

We don’t embarrass letter-writers by using their full names, unless they’re politicians, preachers, or other public figures. Today’s letter-writer is a mystery man, so we’ll use only his first name, which is Albert. We’ll give you a few excerpts from his letter, enhanced with our Curmudgeonly commentary and some bold font for emphasis. Here we go!

At this time, scientists are starting to test out the theory that this 3-dimensional world of ours is an illusion and that the world is actually a 2-dimensional hologram.

We recall seeing some mention of that at PhysOrg about a week ago. Ah yes, here’s the article: Do we live in a 2-D hologram? New Fermilab experiment will test the nature of the universe. The title is wildly misleading. The research is an attempt to discover whether spacetime has any detectable structure. Albert doesn’t say anything about that research. Instead he leaps to something else:

Scientists are also saying they “believe” the universe is made up of 96 percent dark energy and matter. They cannot see or feel this dark energy or matter but they say they can see its effect on the expansion of the universe.

What’s Albert’s point? We can’t “see or feel” lots of things, but we know about them because of the predictable consequences of their existence. Oh wait — we should have seen it coming. He says:

We need not then despair that God cannot be felt or seen in a more concrete way then His effect on the world around us.

Aaaargh!! Come on, Albert. Supernatural interventions aren’t detectable, and the consequences of such things aren’t predictable — certainly not in the way science can detect and predict the effect of unseen natural forces. Surely, even you realize that.

No, Albert doesn’t realize that. He thinks he has data, and he presents it for our consideration:

We can see Him not only in His creation but also in the government of America, which is a product of Christian growth over 2,000 years. [Aaaargh!!] We see in America and Western governments the influence of Christian values of loving neighbor and enemy. [Aaaargh!!] These are values that have been Divinely revealed and not a product of natural evolution where an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth would be the norm. [Aaaargh!!]

But that’s not all there is to Albert’s evidence. Like a good scientist, Albert shows what happens when his unseen force is removed:

As Christianity is forced out of the public arena, we are now seeing a rise in a pre-Christian culture of brutality not seen in centuries.

Having made his case — as surely as one can demonstrate the Big Bang — Albert then provides us with some thoughtful advice:

As a government founded on Christian values, America must not have the form of religion, love and tolerance, but deny the power thereof: God!

Yes, oh yes! Government doesn’t need only the form of religion. It must have the power! You know that that means, don’t you? Sure you do. Now we come to the end of Albert’s letter:

Jesus said that only by prayer and fasting can some demons be driven out, and it may be through this that the conversion of those who are now bringing war and misery to the world can be brought about.

We can start with prayer and fasting. But if that isn’t enough to drive the demons out of you, dear reader, there are other ways to do the job. BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

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13 responses to “Creationist Wisdom #465: Form and Power

  1. Albert declares:

    We can see Him not only in His creation but also in the government of America, which is a product of Christian growth over 2,000 years. We see in America and Western governments the influence of Christian values of loving neighbor and enemy.

    By golly, he’s right! Just click on over to Wikipedia’s list of conflicts in Europe and list of conflicts in North America and let yourself just feel the love!

  2. Diogenes Lamp

    ISIS, Boko Haram, Al Qaeda, Eric Rudolph, Anders Breivik, the Christian American Patriot Militia, abortion clinic bombers, the Cornwall Alliance, and the dominionist League of the South are not posessed by demons. They are possessed by religion.

  3. Doctor Stochastic

    In the early 1930s, “scientists” believed in two unseen, and undetectable particles, the neutron (which at least had weight) and the neutrino (which just spins). Both were later detected. Not all hypothesized entities survive existence tests.

    Most of the complaints from the “religious” (at least the anti-science partition thereof) seem to be about experiments to test these hypotheses.

  4. Charles Deetz ;)

    eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth

    Seems I’ve heard that before somewhere, maybe Exodus?

  5. Ceteris Paribus

    Albert says:

    At this time, scientists are starting to test out the theory that this 3-dimensional world of ours is an illusion and that the world is actually a 2-dimensional hologram.

    Damn those scientists. Double damn them! Just when we all desperately need to schedule some therapeutic sessions in the Holodeck, the evil scientists will be booking up every available hour of Holodeck time just to play around with their silly new theory. Can’t they just use their inflatable universe theory until it wears out?

  6. Albert’s right. I consider myself to be a “scientist”, in that I taught a subject called “science” for a number of years.

    Furthermore, I can’t see or feel radio waves, but I nonetheless believe they exist. Likewise, astronomers can’t “see” or “feel” dark matter, but they can detect its gravitational effect on regular matter.

    How foolish of us to “believe” in things we can’t see!

  7. To further build on what Dr Scholastic & Sciguy (emeritus) have said, in 1869 Dr Meischer isolated a nuclear extract that was rich in phosphorous but did not contain sulphur. This decades later was confirmed as DNA although no-one could actually see it.
    These letter writers really do want us all to live in an age of religious piety, along with small pox, diptheria, the Plague…

  8. Not only can we measure the gravitational effects of dark matter and dark energy, we can measure their effect on the geometry of the universe. Additionally, we can observe the gravitational lensing of light by dark matter, and we have measured the acceleration of the expansion rate of the universe caused by dark energy. And remember, the terms “dark energy” and “dark matter” are just “place holders” for now until we learn more about their nature. We could just as easily call them Albert and Jerry.

  9. This Albert’s no Einstein. It’s amusing how people like him always try to draw analogies between science (the temporal, natural & detectable) and their god (the spiritual, supernatural & evanescent) without realising that such endeavours are doomed from inception, through execution to conclusion.

    There are also things science thought it could detect through their effects that later turned out to be chimeras. Phlogiston, the luminiferous aether, N-rays and miasmas spring to mind.

    Curmy, redundant definite article: “… because of the predictable the consequences of their existence.

    [*Voice from above*] Fixed.

  10. But Albert actually gives good advise!

    “Jesus said that only by prayer and fasting can some demons be driven out, and it may be through this that the conversion of those who are now bringing war and misery to the world can be brought about.”

    Such a pity it’s about 1000 years too late. It might have saved mankind some Crusades.

  11. “Jesus said that only by prayer and fasting can some demons be driven out…..”

    What do you want to bet Albert is a sweet 5’8″ 250lbs?

  12. If anyone has used gamma radiation for research or quality control purposes, they may be familiar with the difficulty some people have with understanding the nature of ionizing radiation or the potential consequences of unmonitored exposure. Albert may well be a radiation denier.

  13. “At this time, scientists are starting to test out the theory that this 3-dimensional world of ours is an illusion and that the world is actually a 2-dimensional hologram.”

    “Albert” apparently thinks this is proof that “scientists believe in things they can’t see.” Yet his quote states that scientists are starting to test out this idea–which at this stage would qualify as a hypothesis, not a theory.

    Scientists “believe in” what they have been able to support with evidence, which doesn’t preclude them from starting out with a speculative idea. As long as the idea is testable and there is some set of observations which, if made, would cause them to abandon it, there’s no problem.

    Creationists, on the other hand, work it backward: they start out with what they firmly believe and look for supporting evidence, and when in fact the evidence points elsewhere, they keep their belief and dump their observations (or try to explain them away). Whether they admit it or not (and the chief reasons they have these days for not admitting it are legal and political, not matters or principle), the only “evidence” they care about is in the Book of Genesis.