AIG: Putin, ISIS, and the Sexual Revolution

Here’s a question for you: What Do Putin, ISIS, and the Modern Sexual Revolution Have in Common? It’s from one of the creation scientists at Answers in Genesis, the on-line ministry of Ken Ham (ol’ Hambo), the ayatollah of Appalachia.

The author is someone we haven’t run across before — Bryan Osborne. He has degrees from not one, but two bible colleges — Bryan College (bachelor of arts in biblical studies) and Lee University (master’s degree in education). His bio page at AIG says: “He now speaks at conferences and in churches for Answers in Genesis.”

Let’s find out what this learned man he has to say about Putin, ISIS, and the Sexual Revolution. Hey, Bryan doesn’t keep us waiting. He begins by telling us what they have in common:

Answer: The rejection of the authority of God’s Word and the utter submission to the word of man. In each case, the one true God is spurned in favor of an idol created in the minds of men. The branches of this idolatry spread far and wide, with various insidious consequences, yet they all go back to the same tree with the same roots. Man become god. Man determines what is good and evil; man generates his own meaning to life; man’s destiny lies in his own hands.

Now you know. In one brilliant paragraph, Bryan has given us the common thread that unites our two biggest problems in foreign policy (Putin and ISIS) and our greatest problem here at home (sex). But surely there’s more to it than that? Yes, there is, and Bryan expounds at great length. We’ll try to excerpt only the most significant parts of his essay. The bold font was added by us:

This basic worldview is played out in various ways because each person has become his own deity; his word is “truth” and his will must be done. When there is no true absolute standard, Judges 21:25 becomes the law of the land:

[Bryan’s scripture quote:] In those days there was no king in Israel. Everyone did what was right in his own eyes.

[Bryan continues:] When this scenario ensues, borders and history become blurred, slaughtering the infidel becomes righteous, and marriage transforms into whatever you want it to be. All of which is consistent within an anti-biblical worldview. But the worldview itself is completely inconsistent and suicidal; it blows itself up. Absolutes are absolutely absent, definitions arbitrary, meaning and purpose subjective.

He’s right! We can’t have people thinking for themselves. That leads to Putin. And ISIS. And — gasp! — sex. We need absolutes! We need a king! Okay, but this is confusing. America doesn’t have a king, and creationists always tell us that the United States was based on scripture. We’ll have to read on:

More and more of the younger generations within the church are apt to condone homosexual marriage, believe there are multiple ways to heaven, support abortion — and the list goes on. Why is this happening? Simply put, the abandonment of the authority of God’s Word.

We desperately need absolute authority! Bryan continues:

Think about it, when we’ve told generations that they can take man’s ideas of evolution and millions of years and use them to reinterpret Genesis, is it any wonder that they then proceed to take man’s ideas and redefine marriage, the value of life, and truth in general?

We knew evolution would be in there somewhere. Bryan goes on for a bit, praising the work of AIG, and then he says this at the end:

Because ultimately, what do Putin, ISIS, and the proponents of the modern sexual revolution really have in common? They all need the gospel.

So there you are, dear reader. Now you understand what’s wrong with the world. It’s a great comfort to know that ol’ Hambo has all the answers.

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38 responses to “AIG: Putin, ISIS, and the Sexual Revolution

  1. Answer: The rejection of the authority of God’s Word and the utter submission to the word of man.

    Go tell that to an ISIS member.

  2. When a guy named Bryan, from Bryan college, says:

    “Think about it, when we’ve told generations that they can take man’s ideas of evolution and millions of years and use them to reinterpret Genesis…”

    …irony meters need to explode everywhere. Whether or not his parents named him for W.J. Bryan of “Scopes” fame, he must certainly know that, for all of WJB’s paranoia over evolution, he had no problem with the “millions of years.” And he must know that the “mere 1000s” only became popular after WJB’s era, when creationism completed its “evolution” from honest belief to full-blown pseudoscience. And surely this Bryan must be painfully aware that, as popular as YEC is, especially with the media, it is the preferred fairy tale of less than half of self-described creationists.

  3. Before anyone gets a new irony meter, remember that probably every ISIS member rejects evolution.

  4. … not sure about Putin, but I strongly suspect he rejects at least Darwinian evolution in favor of Lyseko’s failed “theory.”

  5. Bryan can do something really useful, PROVE anything useful in the buyBull and I’ll consider the rest of what he is dribbling down his chin.

  6. B.O. of AiG: “The branches of this idolatry spread far and wide, with various insidious consequences, yet they all go back to the same tree with the same roots. Man become god.”

    Um, isn’t that the biblical definition of Jesus?

  7. AIG can not stand the idea of people thinking for themselves and determining their own destiny. They think that the best thing that could happen would be for America to be under the rule of an absolute monarch who ruled strictly on the basis of the wholly babble.

    The only difference between AIG and ISIS is that possession of large amounts of military weapons allows ISIS to impose their beliefs on other people while AIG lacks the means to impose their twisted beliefs on the rest of us.

  8. Is ranting taught at these bible schools?

  9. Sure, he was able to slip evolution in there, but the remark about gay marriage is a nice touch and shows a lot of versatility. He’s a pro’s pro.

  10. So AiG have finally decided that they don’t much approve of Putin and that he probably is not a Christian despite him hobnobbing with church patriarchs and condemning ‘modern’ things like sexual deviancy or Eurovision singers in drag (things AiG also absolutely abhor) or trying to argue for ‘traditional’ values.
    I suppose that really is news.

  11. This is what Ham thought about Putin earlier this year:

    But it must be one of those “apparent allies are so unreliable and unpredictable” things for the AiG zealots. Who knows? Next they might be saying that Obama is sympathetic to Christianity. Or then again …

  12. Actually, Bryan did have a problem with the “millions of years,” but was forced to admit on the stand that he couldn’t say for certain that the “days” in the Genesis creation story were literal 24-hour days, since the Bible elsewhere (notably in the prophecies of the Book of Daniel and in Revelations) uses the word “day” to mean a year and there is a Bible passage, in Second Peter, stating that to God, “a day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years are as a day.” That cut the legs out from under his credibility as a defender of hard-charging Biblical literalism.

    Even so, John Scopes (whose conviction in the infamous trial was overturned on a technicality) felt obliged to leave both Louisiana and the teaching profession.

  13. B.O. of AiG shows us how a bible college “education” is essentially worthless. The boy hasn’t a clue about anything except stringing smarmy platitudes together and, of course, producing much frothy drool.
    I’ve read a couple of his goofy little pieces, but without success in winnowing out a single original or worthwhile thought. He’s a worthy addition to Hambo’s ongoing kook fest.

  14. Hold on. I thought that fundamentalists loved Putin for the way he is treating homosexuals. I wish they would make up their mind.

  15. ““So it goes now. Whoever wants to be clever must agree with nothing that others esteem. He must do something of his own. This is what that fellow does who wishes to turn the whole of astronomy upside down. Even in these things that are thrown into disorder I believe the Holy Scriptures, for Joshua commanded the sun to stand still, and not the earth.”

    So today’s heliocentrists trust in the authority of man over the plain word of the Bible. They trust “science, falsely so called”.

  16. @Eric Lipps
    I’m sorry, but it seems that you have been relying on some unreliable sources for your history. Old Earth Creationism was out of fashion even among fundamentalists before 1961. (Mostly only Seventh Day Adventists.)
    The Scopes trial did not take place in Louisiana. I have never heard that Scopes was forced to leave the teaching profession, but he did get a scholarship to go to graduate school in geology and worked as a petroleum geologist.

  17. Charles Deetz ;)

    Why is this happening? Simply put, the abandonment of the authority of [Hambo’s version of] God’s Word.

    The bible fixes everything, and it’s authority on dinosaurs, bacteria, DNA, and hominids proves it. Sheesh.

  18. I’m not an expert on human motivation but I don’t think god’s word is going to influence Putin unless he thinks god is on his side. And the only thing that motivates ISIS is the blood of the infidel. And as for the “modern” sexual revolution…. well, that’s been going on ever since Noah’s sons and daughters found him naked and drunk in his tent. Some one please correct me if I’m wrong on that one as I haven’t set foot in a church but once since I was 16 and my memory isn’t real clear on Bible stories.

  19. Only a year ago the fundies were rejoicing in the righteousness of Putin the blasphemy-slayer. Too bad it’s taking the rape of the Ukraine to open their eyes.

  20. @Eric Lipps & Tom S: Wikipedia has a nice thumbnail sketch concerning John Scopes:
    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_T._Scopes

    An interesting note from the article: Scopes said he skipped the unit on evolution, but went along with the test case anyway.

  21. Islamofascism,and new term, creation fascism . If there were enough Bryan Osbornes out there, we could have what the Middle East has. Bryan college. The gift that keeps giving.

  22. @BW: “Islamofascism,and new term, creation fascism”

    Taliban Ham.

  23. Kennard Walter

    I’m reading more and more of a not so subliminal message running through much of the Tooters and AIG love fests with themselves and their drivel. You must have free will, and you must never exercise it in a way that we don’t give out fake degrees in, and are currently in favor of. Is it just me, seeing an increase, or am I only now realizing how fine tuned I was created to see the design? (excuse me….I gagged a bit)

  24. Stephen Kennedy muses—

    “AIG can not stand the idea of people thinking for themselves and determining their own destiny. They think that the best thing that could happen would be for America to be under the rule of an absolute monarch who ruled strictly on the basis of the wholly babble.”

    Yup, that struck me too. An army of obedient minions and soldiers is where they seem to be aiming — something that would be jarringly at odds with their concomitant puffery about exercising one’s free will in following them. Maybe they’ll ask you to check your free will in at the door to the barracks.

  25. Eric Lipps: “Actually, Bryan did have a problem with the ‘millions of years’,”

    Technically all OECs and IDers have a “problem” with millions (and billions) of years, in that they are don’t like anything that could drive others to accept evolution. Even heliocentrism probably makes many of them uncomfortable. But as you note, WJB admitted that he could not challenge the evidence,a and that’s a problem” for his namesake. The deal breaker for nearly all evolution-deniers then and now (except for IDers) is common descent, not any number of years.

    TomS: “Old Earth Creationism was out of fashion even among fundamentalists before 1961.”

    I can’t imagine OEC or YEC, in the “scientific” creationism sense, being in fashion anywhere before the 1961 publication of “The Genesis Flood.” AIUI, these people mostly ignored evidence and believed that scripture overruled any inconvenient evidence. Though I can imagine a lot of pushback from the rank-and-file to the more educated anti-evolution activists (of the 1860-1960 century) who had been conceding the chronology.

    As you (TomS) know, it’s especially interesting in recent years. More than anything the various polls (other than that idiotic Gallup one that’s usually the only one cited) show massive confusion. When the question is worded unequivocally, only 10-20% of adult Americans (less than half of all evolution-deniers) believe a young earth, and even then, probably mostly “on faith in spite of evidence.” The % of geocentrists is actually greater than that, though probably due more to science illiteracy than desperately wanting scripture to be as literally true as possible.

  26. John Zande wonders: “Is ranting taught at these bible schools?”
    Don’t know, but incoherent thinking apparently is.

  27. Bryan: “Because ultimately, what do Putin, ISIS, and the proponents of the modern sexual revolution really have in common? They all need the gospel.”

    Yeah, I’m sure the ISIS jihadists would react really well if somebody were to tell them that they aren’t actually serving God after all.

    Give Bryan a parachute and throw him out of a plane above an ISIS-controleld area, so that he can bring them the gospel they need! I’m sure they will once again be happy to share the outcome with everybody on YouTube.

  28. I made a couple of comments two days’ ago. Have they been deleted for some reason?

  29. Sorry, I’m in physical pain and must have scrolled down too far just now …

  30. Ashley Haworth-roberts, the answer is “no.” Nothing you’ve said has been deleted. I look at everything in the spam-catcher. Sometimes a genuine comment is there by accident, and I always approve those. Are you sure you posted in the right threads?

  31. @Ashley Haworth-roberts: Your posts are here. Your second post was the Ham – Putin thing, right? With the photo of Putin and the Russian Orthodox priest?

  32. Oh — guess that’s what you meant by “scrolled down too fast.”

  33. imaginary_god

    The Bible is all fantasy and myths written by ignorant frightened men with NO understanding of the natural world and a knowledge of science that is less than an elementary school child of today!
    All religion is severe Delusional MENTAL ILLNESS! A delusion that there is an imaginary MALE Deity who judges and punishes and rewards us for proper or improper behavior is insane! The bible is a collection of silly myths written by frightened men who had NO understanding of even the basic science that an grade school child of today has, who didn’t even know of lands outside their little middle east location.
    Humans cannot deal with their animal instincts and SEX, so they make up rules to cope with them and call this Religion. Humans are the only creature that can contemplate their death. They fear death and cannot cope with the thought of it. Religion is a COPING mechanism that allows humans to get through the day without the panic that they are just like any other primate on the Earth, except that they know they will DIE and their powerful sexual and violent behavior has to be tamed and controlled or they cannot function as a society.
    Humans wrote the Torah, Bible, Koran and other holy books.
    How can GOD have gender? ..always referred to as a MAN–HE, HIM, HIS, KING etc.? Why would god who created the sun, the earth, and formed man out of dust –need a human woman Mary to create a son? Why would god allow the torture of his son to forgive bad actions of people thousands of years later? Belief in this silly fantasy/fable is a delusion and total insanity!
    Where was god during–Hiroshima Bomb, the holocaust? The WTC attack? On vacation? What did god do on the seventh day of rest, take a nap, lie in bed in Heaven, read the newspaper, watch football, have sex with his goddess wife? why would an almighty powerful god need to rest?

  34. imaginary_god, all you needed to say was your first sentence. There’s no need to go on and on like that. This isn’t that kind of blog.

  35. @imaginary_god:
    Yes! And if a supreme diety indeed author the bible, why didn’t she/he/it tell us all about dark matter, dark energy, and the G-spot?

  36. (I was writing my post simultaneously with SC.)

  37. I use a wheelchair. I currently have a pressure sore. I was in a lot pf pain Monday night which affected my typing and keyboard use in general. Much better tonight.
    Sorry about the confusion!

  38. I’m still making silly typos, duh.