Creationist Wisdom #466: The Babylonian

Today’s letter-to-the-editor appears in the Record-Courier, a three times a week newspaper located in Gardnerville, Nevada (population 5,656). The letter is titled We are all fearfully and wonderfully made by God.

We don’t embarrass letter-writers by using their full names, unless they’re politicians, preachers, or other public figures, but there’s no need to be discreet in this case. The letter-writer is Leo Kruger, Pastor of Valley Christian Fellowship. We’ll give you a few excerpts from the rev’s letter, enhanced with our Curmudgeonly commentary and some bold font for emphasis. Here we go!

What we believe about our origin has a huge affect on how we live our lives.

Right. If you’re an Adam & Eve type, you’ll have a totally different life than one of those yucky evolutionists. The rev then elaborates for us:

If we believe that we are a product of evolution without any divine intervention we will see life from a perspective of no original purpose or plan, with no responsibility of or accountability to a creator. Resulting in little or no hope for the future after this life.

Right again! We’ve all noticed that evolutionists are depressed, purposeless, and irresponsible. They just wander around in a hopeless daze. Let’s read on:

If we believe we were created by a God who takes responsibility for the creation with a divine purpose for its beginning and its future we will see life from a totally different perspective.

The rev’s observations are strikingly accurate! He continues:

Because no one alive today was present in the beginning both belief systems require faith.

That’s so true! There’s no way anyone can even begin to understand the past. But the rev has a way to figure it out. He tells us:

For those who believe in the Creator we have some very encouraging words spoken by the only one who was there in the beginning, God Himself.

The remaining 2/3 of the rev’s letter is almost entirely a mass of bible quotes, which we won’t bother to repeat here. But he does say this near the end:

We were created for a purpose and for a future. That purpose is to glorify, praise, worship and serve the Creator.

That’s about all there is, so we realize that some of you are wondering: Why did the Curmudgeon bother with this letter? That’s a good question. We were going to ignore it, but then we realized that there’s a lesson here. What lesson is that? It’s foreshadowed by the title of this post, in which we referred to the rev as “The Babylonian.”

What our title means is that the rev’s knowledge and understanding of this world and the rest of the universe is exactly the same as someone who lived 3,000 years ago in the days of the Babylonian Empire. They thought they lived on a flat Earth, the unmoving center of a tiny, recently created universe, with a dome of pretty lights above them and a mysterious underworld below. The rev’s thinking is no better. Well, he may not be a flat-Earther, but even an ancient Babylonian could be convinced to give up that belief, and most creationists have done so.

Were you to ask him, the rev would insist that he’s a modern man. As evidence, he’d point out that he can use a telephone, drive a car, and turn his TV set on and off. But if a Babylonian could drive a chariot, he could easily learn to operate an automobile. Even a child can perform the other tasks the rev has mastered, without comprehending the science that makes them possible. The rev may think of himself as a thoroughly modern fellow, but his letter reveals that his intellect is stuck three millennia in the past. That’s why he’s a creationist. They’re all Babylonians.

So thanks for the letter, rev. You gave us something to think about — but it probably wasn’t what you were hoping for.

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14 responses to “Creationist Wisdom #466: The Babylonian

  1. Re “We were created for a purpose and for a future. That purpose is to glorify, praise, worship and serve the Creator.” Okay, so this grand purpose the Rev wants us to focus on is that of being a slave of this god-like being. That’s it? I have a counter idea: Run! Run, as fast as you can! the slavers are coming! The slavers are coming!

    Now, that’s a plan.

  2. The Rev here is a run of the mill god-bothering infantile thinker. His letter fairly reeks of the mindset of a slave, which of course is the very basis of Christianity in all its crazy manifestations. As to whether or not the Rev is a believer in a spherical or flat earth, I doubt that his feeble mind can even comprehend such a deep thought.

    As long as these buffoons stay away from schools, it really doesn’t matter to the sentient world what they think. Let him drool and babble to his sheep. After all, he has the absolute right to be stupid, and to wave his arms and thump his bible to his heart’s content. There is nothing to be gained in trying to introduce reason to types like the Rev . . . ’cause he has surrendered his humanity to an invisible sky fairy, like all good slaves do.

  3. “That purpose is to glorify, praise, worship and serve the Creator.”
    Yeah, that is what always struck me as odd about what many people think about “God”. Their “God” is so insecure that he/she/it needed to create people to stroke his/her/its ego? Is that really satisfying to a creator? How is that any different from masturbation? On top of which, this creator needs people like this Mr. Kruger to tell us all about what “God” expects of us and we also need to give the Krugers of this world money so they can do that. Yeah, right 😉

  4. P.S. So I thought about leaving a comment to the letter on their website. When you want to do that you get a notice that they require a Facebook account. Okay, I can do that, but when you click to view/add comments you then get told you have to be a subscriber or pay a $! fee for a single day of access or $3.95 per month. Not worth it.

  5. Resulting in little or no hope for the future after this life.”

    That is the whole point of religion, isn’t it? Humans have great difficulty coming to terms with their finiteness, that this is it, and no more. They deeply desire to live on forever, and thus make up the “afterlife” that every deity religion claims. The pharoahs even built great structures to carry them onward, but their thoughts were no different than this reverend’s thoughts, that there has to be something beyond this life, that we can’t possibly just be mortal and not immortal, and it’s truly a difficult concept to accept.

  6. The difference between the rev and Babylonians is that the ancient Babylonians used what information and technology they had and did their best to understand the natural world. They made advances in subjects such as Math and Astronomy in their attempts to better understand the Universe they lived in. They did not have the knowledge that has been accumulated over the millennia and the advanced technology we possess today but they did take the first steps towards acquiring it.

    The rev on the other hand, despite what has been learned since the time of the ancient Babylonians, still clings to superstitions that were held by some of the ancient Babylonians neighbors. Unlike the ancient Babylonians who embraced all the scientific knowledge that was knowable at that time, the rev rejects the knowledge that we have now so that he can cling to his bronze age superstitious outlook.

    It amazes me how ignorant creationists are of just how much modern scientists know about the natural world and the methods they have used to learn what they know.

  7. Seems to me the Bible literalists are the irresponsible ones. Since the world is going to end anyway, they feel free to exploit the natural resources, ignore climate science, etc. In contrast, the evolutionists anticipate that humans will continue to exist on earth for generations, and therefore we have a responsibility to manage the earth and resources with an eye to the future.

  8. Off topic, though perhaps not that much. The last line is hilarious.

    http://freethoughtblogs.com/singham/2014/09/06/giant-dinosaur-discovery/

  9. SC you missed a really cheap joke…
    instead of …’That’s why he’s a creationist. They’re all Babylonians.’
    go for….’That’s why he’s a creationist. They’re all Baby-Lonians.’

  10. The whole truth

    Or Babble-loonians. 🙂

  11. I’ve heard this line of crap, I mean argument, before. Essentially the writer is saying that belief in evolution is morally bad, therefore evolution can’t be true. This is pretty much the same rationale used in the Middle Ages against Copernicus’ idea that the earth revolves around the sun. There’s just one little problem . . . it actually does.

    When creationists resort to this type of reasoning, it amounts to a confession that they’ve lost the argument based on the evidence–therefore, they say, away with the evidence, because it’s bad for us!

  12. What concerns me more about this Revver than his prehistoric thinking is his portrayal of “evolutionists”, presumably godless by definition, as despondent and feckless layabouts. He draws this conclusion through a hasty act of, er, ex recto abracadabra, revealing his underlying disdain for those of a different mind to his own. It appears that he really believes and promotes this idea, in which case he’s bearing false witness against his neighbour — in clear violation of his own vaunted standards of conduct, of course. His call to Jesus’ arms is a prideful, tawdry ruse.

    And all of the above remains the case, regardless of the truth or otherwise of evolution.

    Curmy observes—

    “Were you to ask him, the rev would insist that he’s a modern man. As evidence, he’d point out that he can use a telephone, drive a car, and turn his TV set on and off.”

    Yes, but it’s likely he’d studiously evade the fact that all of those modern conveniences didn’t come about through bible study and prayer, and work remarkably well considering they don’t require any form of divine control or intervention.

  13. So we were created to slobber at the feet of our creator? Yeah, that makes sense…

    I have applied for another purpose.