James Lunney — Creationist Canadian MP

We expected the worst when we saw this headline in the Globe and Mail of Toronto, the most populous city in Canada and the capital of Ontario: B.C. MP quits Conservatives to defend views on evolution. The newspaper has over 200 comments.

Oh no, we thought. A sane politician has been driven out of the Conservative party by creationists. But then we read the story and discovered that it’s not what we feared. Here are some excerpts, with bold font added by us:

Veteran Conservative MP [member of Parliament] James Lunney, who has repeatedly expressed skepticism about the theory of evolution, is quitting the Tory caucus, citing a deliberate attempt to “suppress a Christian worldview” at the “senior levels” of politics.

Whoa! Everything seems to be upside-down in Canada. The creationist — appropriately named Mr. Lunney — is leaving the Conservative party. We’re told:

In a statement explaining his decision to sit as an independent, Mr. Lunney said he wants to place some distance between himself and the Harper government so he can “defend my beliefs” without it reflecting back on the Conservative caucus, which he made a point of framing as diverse.

It’s diverse, but not diverse enough to include a creationist. Good for them! Let’s read on:

Mr. Lunney expressed common cause in this statement with a group of faith leaders who spoke out in Ottawa last week against what they say is increasing discrimination and intolerance against Christians in Canada today, including from the government and private companies. He said like these religious leaders he sees an effort to “suppress a Christian world view from professional and economic opportunity in law, medicine and academia.”

BWAHAHAHAHAHA! He sounds just like ol’ Hambo. We continue:

The B.C. MP [that’s British Colombia Member of Parliament], a chiropractor by training, recently came to the defence of Ontario Progressive Conservative MPP Rick Nicholls who said he doesn’t believe in evolution.

Ah, he’s a chiropractor, and he’s defending a Progressive Conservative. Are the Canadian Progressives the creationists? Why this reversal from the way things are in the US? It must be that polar vortex we’ve been hearing about. Oh, this next excerpt is good. The bracketed word is like that in the newspaper:

“[Just] stop calling #evolution fact!” Mr. Lunney said on Twitter in late February.

A bold statement indeed! Here’s more:

In April 2009, Mr. Lunney made a statement in the Commons that suggested he had doubts about Charles Darwin’s theory of evolution. “Given the modern evidence unavailable to Darwin, advanced models of plate tectonics, polonium radiohalos, polystratic fossils, I am prepared to believe that Darwin would be willing to re-examine his assumptions,” Mr. Lunney told the House in 2009.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA! He’s got all the creationist arguments. Moving along:

“The evolutionists may genuinely see his ancestor in a monkey, but many modern scientists interpret the same evidence in favour of creation and a creator,” Mr. Lunney said back in 2009.

Lunney ain’t no kin to no monkey! Another excerpt:

Any scientist who declares that the theory of evolution is a fact has already abandoned the foundations of science. For science establishes fact through the study of things observable and reproducible. Since origins can neither be reproduced nor observed, they remain the realm of hypothesis.”

BWAHAHAHAHAHA! Where do these guys go for their information? Oh, it’s probably the same websites we visit for laughs.

There’s more in the newspaper, and several others are also reporting the story — but for some reason, not many science bloggers. Perhaps they’re baffled by the behavior of the Conservatives. We don’t know anything about politics in Canada, but if the Conservatives up there don’t have room for a flaming creationist, that sounds good to us. It’s the way things used to be in the US, before Nixon’s Southern strategy.

See also: Creationist Wisdom #550: Lunney the Loony.

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14 responses to “James Lunney — Creationist Canadian MP

  1. We here in Canada have insane legislators just like those south of our border. The so-called “Progressive Conservatives” (the PCs) are anything but progressive. They were formed by a merger of the “Conservative” and “Reform” parties. Reform was our (Canadian) equivalent of the Tea party. As can be imagined, we have a bunch of anti-intellectuals, both in and out of government, just like the US does.

  2. michaelfugate

    Isn’t progressive conservative an oxymoron?

  3. Spector567

    Just to add to cynics comment.

    We do have the same fringe groups. However, because we have multiple political parties the various fringe groups have their own party and thus there fringe ideas do not inadvertently receive mainstream support. Nor do mainstream parties have to necessarily seek out there support because Canadian politics do not typically majority governments and the fringe groups would typically support the mainstream on the core issues. This is of course not a perfect system but it does add more variety of choice.

    And michaelfugate Marketing is indeed live and well in Canada =)

  4. Southern strategy? I thought the Southern strategy was “If you’re agonna eat it, fry it!”

    [Yes, agonna is a real word, as in I knew he was agonna eat the roadkill possum but I jist thought he was agonna fry it first..]

    Ever have fried fatback? It’s for those who like their fat fried in fat.

  5. “Polonium radiohaloes”? Anyone willing to explain this to a humanities major?

  6. dweller42 inquires:

    “Polonium radiohaloes”? Anyone willing to explain this to a humanities major?

    This is from the TalkOrigins Index to Creationist Claims: polonium radio-haloes.

  7. “Any scientist who declares that the theory of evolution is a fact has already abandoned the foundations of science. For science establishes fact through the study of things observable and reproducible. Since origins can neither be reproduced nor observed, they remain the realm of hypothesis.”

    Anyone who declares the theory of evolution is a fact doesn’t know what a theory is, and the same is true of anyone who thinks creationism is a theory.

    Whether creationists like it or not, evolution–the phenomenon, not the theory–is, based on all credible available evidence, a fact. And once a fact is established, it need have to keep proving the earth is round, too?

    Now, it’s imaginable that someday, somehow, some evidence might emerge which really would overturn Darwinian evolution. Don’t hold your breath waiting, though.

  8. I suspect it’s little more than an attempt to give the impression that our sad vestige of a conservative party isn’t overrun with religious nuts. Sadly though, it has been overrun by religious nuts. The other parties don’t appear to be much different, except they may contain an assortment of non-religious nuts that still think pyramid power is real.

  9. @Eric Lipps
    If something is ever to overthrow the idea that – to take one small fact of evolution – humans share common ancestors with chimps and other apes, it will include a description of what did happen so that we share so much anatomy. I know of no example of any hypothesis being successfully challenged by an empty hypothesis – can anybody cite a precedent?
    There has been so much thought by so many smart and well-informed people – so we are told – with no results on the “Intelligent Design” front, that it doesn’t look promising, does it?

  10. I know this is wrong of me but I just have to say … very politely … thank you Canadians for proving that America has not completely cornered the market on ignorant loons.

    Oh, of course, our sympathies! We know your pain … in spades!

  11. “Polonium radiohaloes”? Anyone willing to explain this to a humanities major?

    Richard Gentry & the Polonium Radiohaloes first hit the Young Earth Creationist Alternative charts in 1968 and somehow managed to come out with new versions every few years up until the present day. It was always the same song but slightest different arrangements. Fans always try to say that they have a contemporary sound but don’t believe it. If you listen carefully, it’s the same grating sounds as in 1968. See One Hit Wonders.

  12. Thanks, Curmudgeon. I was searching without the dash, which only got me to the creationist website on the subject.

  13. “Are the Canadian Progressives the creationists?” Progressive Conservative, a somewhat oxymoronic party name for the right wing in Canada.

  14. michaelfugate

    Isn’t the reason that the DI links “information” with intelligent is that they both have the same number of letters and start with “in”?