Creationist Wisdom #545: Clearly Documented

Today’s letter-to-the-editor appears in the Knoxville News Sentinel of Knoxville, Tennessee. It’s titled Universe’s origin known.

Wowie — the origin of the universe is known! The newspaper has a comments feature, but it requires a log-in even to read it.

Because today’s writer isn’t a politician, preacher, or other public figure, we won’t embarrass or promote him by using his full name. We’ll use only his first name, which is Norman. Excerpts from his letter will be enhanced with our Curmudgeonly commentary and some bold font for emphasis. Here we go!

A recent letter to the editor asks how, if the universe never began, how it could exist at all. The answer to that is a very simple one.

At last — at last! — we’ll have the answer we’ve been seeking. Eagerly we devour Norman’s wisdom:

As we used to say at every Mass on Sunday, “Deus semper fuit et semper, et in saecula saeculorum amen,” or translated into English, “God always was and always will be, world without end amen.” God tells us, “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.” Furthermore, we were taught that “God created the heavens and the earth, all things seen and unseen.” Additionally …

Okay, okay! That’s enough! We get it! We’ll skip Norman’s other scripture quotes. Then he tells us:

We spend much of our lives wondering where we came from and why are we here when the answer has been in front of us for thousands of years.

How could we have been so blind? Norman continues:

Do I understand how God can make something from nothing? No, I don’t, and apparently neither do the world’s top scientists.

That makes Norman the intellectual equal of the world’s top scientists, so his guess is as good as theirs. And now we come to the end:

Search for how all this relates to mankind if you will, but where it all began has been clearly documented over the ages.

There you are, dear reader. What more do you want — verifiable evidence? Why? The Truth has already been documented.

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18 responses to “Creationist Wisdom #545: Clearly Documented

  1. Some middle eastern desert dwelling goat herders made some WAG about stuff they knew nothing about, and we are suppose to believe that as fact!! Oh yes this kid is really really ….something.

  2. If their god made everything exactly the way it is now, why do they argue with scientists about the way things are? This was Thomas Paine’s complaint–you can see God’s creation right in front of you, why do you refuse to look?

  3. “The answer to that is a very simple one.”

    Even if the answer is simple it doesn’t mean we should be satisfied with simpleton answers.

  4. I searched a bit, and about the only place where I found Deus semper fuit, et semper, et in saecula saeculorum. amen was in this very letter to the editor. I tried that with est instead of et, with no luck. Perhaps some Latin scholar can help.
    It would be interesting to find this as perhaps the first quote mine from the Latin Mass.

  5. Quick. Someone please send Norm a used (and well underlined) copy of Stephen Hawking’s The Grand Design. On second thought, is might be too complicated for him.

  6. Opps, there ought to be another “o” in the to above.

    [*Voice from above*] As it should be, so it is.

  7. waldteufel

    Would somebody please tell me how “goddidit” is any more useful than “universe-creating pixies did it” as an explanation for the creation of the universe? Maybe gods get the credit ’cause they tend to have better public relations flacks on their staffs than pixies?

  8. @waldteufel
    “Pixies did it” has a chance of being an explanation, for we can postulate some constraints on pixies. Or they might be excused oversight, for, only after billions of years, realizing that their universe needs some further work to make life, or that bacteria could use some flagella, etc.
    “An ineffable, omniscient, omnipotent, eternal God did it” doesn’t have a chance of explaining anything. (Even if God did do it, that isn’t an explanation.)

  9. Oh, blind faith! You are so comforting!

  10. retiredsciguy says: “Oh, blind faith! You are so comforting!”

    You don’t get it, do you? It’s documented!

  11. “You don’t get it, do you? It’s documented!”

    Right along with talking serpents, cud-chewing rabbits, and . . . .

  12. Where is Blind Faith documented? Here?

    So Eric Clapton (who is God) diddid.

  13. TomS sends up the Bat Signal:

    Perhaps some Latin scholar can help.

    I’m no Latin scholar (nor do I portray one on TV), but I’ve retained a smidgeon enough from school days to see that the quote is badly mangled.

    The text of the Ordinary Mass: Sicut erat in principio, et nunc, et semper: et in saecula saeculorum. Amen. — “As it was in the beginning, is now, and always, for ever and ever.”

  14. Bonus points available for anyone who points out how the conclusion of the Latin Mass quoted above endorses Uniformitarianism…

  15. Eeek! A redundant “for” in previous post!

    I prithee, O Great Hand, smite the offending word and hurl it forever into the oblivion of the Lake of Fire, in saecula saeculorum.

    [*Voice from above*] I stretched forth my mighty hand and lo, it is done!

  16. @Megalonyx
    Thank you.
    That was quite a mangling worthy of a quote mine. One can find a explanation of the idiom in saecula saeculorom in Wikipedia.

  17. Stephen Kennedy

    Someone should tell Norman that the Big Bang Theory was first proposed by a mathematician, astronomer and physicist who also happened to be a Catholic priest and that the Vatican has supported this theory for decades. Norman would probably be much happier if he knew he could accept the Big Bang Theory and still be a good Catholic.

  18. The Vatican likes the Big Bang because it can be reconciled with Genesis if one doesn’t insist on the six-day, six-thousand-years scenario in the case of the latter. The Holy See prefers not to touch the issue of what God was doing before the creation of the universe; when asked about that, its revered St. Augustine supposedly responded, “Creating hell for people who ask questions like that!”