Ken Ham Has a 13-Year-Old Fan

We don’t know what to say about this one, but we don’t need to say anything because it speaks for itself. It’s the latest from Ken Ham (ol’ Hambo), the Australian entrepreneur who has become the ayatollah of Appalachia. He’s famed for his creationist ministry, Answers in Genesis (AIG) and for the mind-boggling Creation Museum.

Ol’ Hambo just posted this: Drawing by 13-Year-Old Supporter Illustrates Creation / Evolution Debate. Here are some excerpts, with bold font added by us:

A big part of AiG’s ministry is encouraging the next generation to stand on the authority of God’s Word from the very beginning. We are thrilled when we hear about kids who are using our resources and sharing them with others. I recently received an encouraging note from a 13-year-old who loves our resources and the Creation Museum:

[Hambo quotes the kid:] I live in Northern Minnesota, 2 hours from the Canadian border. Despite the miles, we bought a 5-year membership to the Creation Museum and we have been there three times and are looking forward to the fourth. I have been greatly encouraged through the ministry of AiG to share my faith with others. My family loves the AiG books and DVDs, and we add to our collection every time we are at the Museum.

Wonderful, isn’t it? But wait — there’s more:

With his letter, he also included an illustration that he drew:

Hambo’s post shows the kid’s illustration. We won’t copy it here because — who knows? — we might be violating some copyright law. So we’ll describe it. There’s a big letter E (evolution) and a big letter C (creationism). Each letter is holding a sword, threatening the other letter. And the letters have little feet. The letter C is standing on the holy bible. What’s the letter E standing on? A few zig-zag shapes labeled “Nothing.” That’s the kid’s illustration.

Hambo is impressed. He says:

This drawing illustrates the battle between creation and evolution, and I am thrilled to see young people understanding these issues and standing firmly on God’s Word from the very beginning.

It’s difficult for your Curmudgeon to restrain himself, but we will. Let’s read on:

As I have said before, it is not a battle over the evidence! [No, of course not. BWAHAHAHAHAHA!] It’s a battle over your interpretation of the evidence that is determined by your starting point. And your starting point is determined by your authority.

Yes, it’s all about authority. We use reality as our authority. As we’ve said before, reality is a harsh mistress, but she’s the only girl in town. Hambo, however, marches to a different drummer. He continues:

Those who believe in evolution start with man’s ideas about the past — they reject God’s Word as their authority and make man the authority. They stand on a foundation of man’s fallible ideas and they use that to interpret the past. But those who start with God’s Word stand on the solid foundation of the eyewitness account of the Creator who never lies.

Does God talk to Hambo and tell him his eyewitness account? Probably not, but as Hambo repeatedly told Bill Nye, he’s got a book. Here’s one last excerpt:

We need more people like this young man who refuse to compromise on God’s Word and boldly proclaim the truth of Scripture. I encourage you to equip your children by bringing them to the Creation Museum.

The rest of Hambo’s post is just promotion for his museum and the ark he’s building, so we’ll quit here. But we can’t help wondering about the kid. What will become of him? Who knows? Maybe he’ll be a creationist all his life. Maybe not. But for the moment, he’s one of Hambo’s drooling fans, and Hambo is pleased.

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20 responses to “Ken Ham Has a 13-Year-Old Fan

  1. Holding The Line In Florida

    About three weeks ago I had one of my 7th graders leave a note to me listing Kenny Boy’s name and AIG’s website where I could find it. It contained good biblical evidence against Evilution I teach. I am need of saving it appears! Always like to begin my day with a good joke!

  2. “Those who believe in evolution start with man’s ideas about the past — they reject God’s Word as their authority and make man the authority. They stand on a foundation of man’s fallible ideas and they use that to interpret the past. But those who start with God’s Word stand on the solid foundation of the eyewitness account of the Creator who never lies.”

    Ah, yes. The Bible is “God’s Word” and so can never be wrong. And we know it’s God’s Word because . . . dang it, that’s what we learned in Sunday school!

    Just once I’d like to see one of these types try to prove the Bible’s divine origin without assuming it to start with.

  3. Holding The Line In Florida:
    “Always like to begin my day with a good joke!”

    Well, you’re in luck, my fellow teacher! Off-topic of this particular thread, but certainly in the spirit of this great blog, I share herewith a few science jokes I just received from my daughter. To wit (and witty, too):

    I’m reading a great book on anti-gravity. I can’t put it down.

    I have a new theory on inertia but it doesn’t seem to be gaining
    momentum.

    Why can’t atheists solve exponential equations? Because they don’t
    believe in higher powers.

    Schrodinger’s cat walks into a bar. And doesn’t.

    Do you know the name Pavlov? It rings a bell.

    A group of protesters in front of a physics lab:

    “What do we want?”.
    “Time travel”
    “When do we want it?”.
    “Irrelevant.”

    What does a subatomic duck say? Quark!

    A neutron walks into a bar and asks how much for a beer. Bartender
    replies “For you, no charge”.

    Two atoms are walking along. One of them says:
    “Oh, no, I think I lost an electron.”
    “Are you sure?”
    “Yes, I’m positive.”

  4. Einstein’s play on “E” and “C” was better:

    E = MC^2

    Proving that E is much bigger than C.

  5. Oh, this poor child — how embarrassed he’s going to be in a few years’ time.

  6. michaelfugate

    Or as Ham’s Bible put it

    When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

    Ham still intellectually a child.

  7. Lewis Thomasonn

    Amazing

  8. That’s all Ham has to talk about, some little kid whose been brainwashed into this religious nonsense and his love of Ham’s charade of a museum?

  9. “they reject God’s Word as their authority and make man the authority. They stand on a foundation of man’s fallible ideas and they use that to interpret the past.”
    Well, I agree with Ol’ Hambo on this one. I also add that that foundation of man’s fallible ideas gave us internet, airplanes and other stuff Ol’ Hambo happily uses. God’s achievements seem to be somewhat lacking in this department. Isn’t Ol’ Hambo scared every time he drives his car? It might suddenly stop working, ’cause mans fallible ideas.

  10. Four times visiting the Creation Museum? I live about 15 miles from the National Museum of Natural History and dozens of other high quality museums and historical sites that I have a “lifetime pass” to and I haven’t been to any of them four times. As much as my kids love dinosaurs, after our third trip they’d revolt. (That the fossil exhibit is closed for renovation did create a wee bit of sadness, though).

    These boring, unimaginative parents are raising a boring, unimaginative kid, and Ken Ham approves.

  11. I don’t know? How much of that whole thing was pushed by the parents? A 13yrold should be starting to think about girls and stuff, or at least when I was 13 I had VERY little thought of jesus or the silly book o’BS, or even evilution!

  12. What these parents are doing to their child could be considered child abuse, IMHO. They are inflicting brain damage by planting a harmful virus in the poor kid’s thought process.

    I guesstimate that they’re driving 1000 miles or so to get to Hambo’s museum. At roughly half that distance from northern Minnesota is the Ashfall Fossil Beds State Historical Park, near Royal, Nebraska. There one can see some wonderfully preserved skeletons of rhinoceroses, zebras, horses and other creatures that died an estimated 12 million years ago. They died when volcanic ash from the west drifted like Minnesota snow around a shrinking watering hole. Unlike Hambo’s fabrications in Kentucky, no humans planted the Ashfall bones; this trove was found accidentally, and has been carefully excavated, leaving many of the bones in situ and just partially exposed. We took our kids there when they were pre-teens. It seemed like a good place to reinforce their faith in the Church of Reality.

    http://ashfall.unl.edu/

  13. I’m sure this roughly scribbled object d’ art warms the cockles of Hambo’s heart and of course it is good for p.r. But Hambo knows this is not the typical case. Check out Hambo’s book “Already Gone”. Hambo hires actual scientists to gage the attitudes of various demographics with an emphesis on younger people. The thesis of the book is that most are “already gone” in middle school, possibly why this exception by someone nearly or just out of middle school is considered a major win.

  14. Dave Luckett

    Whatever happened to “When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the things of childhood behind me.”? 2 Corinthians 13:11.

    Ah, but there’s always “Have you not read “Out of the mouths of babes and sucklings you have called forth praise”. Matthew 21:16, (Actually, the answer should have been no. Psalm 8 has “you have established a fortification”, but Jesus may be taking poetic licence, here.)

    So children should be listened to, but not listened to if their name is Saul of Tarsus. This is holy writ. I think. Or unless what they say is praise and/or a fortification. Or something.

    Ah, the wisdom of the Bible!

  15. @Retiredscienceguy – Thanks for the humor.

    As you probably know, the Higgs boson was recently found at CERN. Now scientists at the U. S. Navy Research Lab are looking for its companion particle – the bosun’s mate.🙂

  16. Who knows how this particular 13-year-old will turn out? Perhaps he will go the way of de-convert Libby Anne, who tells her story here:

    http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2012/04/29/why-i-am-an-atheist-libby-anne/

    In short, she was raised on AiG materials. At college her worldview collapsed when she encountered real science. She tells us how she fought for a full year, but finally she arrived at the point where reality could no longer be denied.

    In closing she writes: “I would like to point out that by teaching their children that their faith rests on young earth creationism, fundamentalist and evangelical parents create an Achilles heel in their children. If they grow up to find that young earth creationism is wrong, they have to completely evaluate everything they believe about the Bible, God, and Christianity. In trying to buttress their children’s faith, these parents build into it a fundamental flaw. Who I am today is a product of that flaw.”

    Interestingly, Geogia Purdom at AiG noticed Libby’s blog entry and wrote her own piece about the sad, sad story of a young woman who clearly never fully understood the sublime teachings of AiG, since she has now succumbed to atheism. Shortly afterwards, K-Ham himself wrote about this tragedy.

    Libby’s response is well worth reading; she describes herself as the AiG poster child, and it is ludicrous to suggest that she did not “understand” the creationist material she was raised on. She simply came to understand that this material was not supported by the facts:

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/lovejoyfeminism/2012/05/rebutting-ken-hams-response.html

  17. Doctor Stochastic

    As long as he doesn’t have a 13-year old fan dancer.

  18. I sometimes wonder how many of the AIG types have actually read the bible. When I was in high school, I went to a church that had a fairly charismatic young minister as the head of the youth fellowship, and I entertained the idea I might become a minister. Then, the summer vacation between my junior and senior year, I decided to read the bible (in preparation for my possible “career”), and I did, from end to end. Anyone who does that, and is even paying slight attention, will see that it’s full of contradictions and stories that are inconsistent.

    Then I went to a Lutheran college that, at that time, required students to take two religion courses. In those courses I learned that archeology had shown that there was no evidence for most of the stories, even the ones that were not inconsistent. It astonishes me that anyone with enough neurons to find their way to work each day can read the bible and not see that it’s a collection of myths with no relation to reality.

  19. @abeastwood
    I remember being puzzled by some of the stories in the Bible which didn’t seem to have continuity. So I was happily surprised to learn of the Documentary Hypothesis.
    When the fundamentalists speak of following the Word of God as given in the Bible, what they really mean is the eisegesis that their particular brand of fundamentalism practices. For example, just about any fundamentalist believes in the doctrine of Mosaic authorship, with no basis, other than a long tradition. Why it is at all important, is puzzling.

  20. Yep, teaching religion really is a form of child abusive, Future generations will be laughing at our superstitions.