Charges Against Kent Hovind Dropped?

Although we find Kent Hovind (a/k/a “Dr. Dino”) amusing, the press treats him as an uninteresting, marginal buffoon. His legal tribulations receive virtually no press attention — except in the Pensacola News Journal of Pensacola, Florida. That town was the home of Hovind’s creationist “ministry” and his Dinosaur Adventure Land, which are among the properties confiscated by the feds to pay Hovind’s back taxes. Pensacola is also the site of the federal courthouse where Hovind’s trials have been conducted.

If you need background information about Hovind’s self-inflicted legal problems, it’s all in our last post about him: Kent Hovind Will Be Tried Again. In a nutshell, Hovind and his co-defendant were found guilty on a few of the counts against them, but the jury couldn’t reach a verdict on some other counts, so the feds were proceeding with a new trial on those unresolved matters.

Although Hovind’s new trial was scheduled to start on 18 May — that’s tomorrow — your Curmudgeon has been frustrated, because even the Pensacola News Journal is silent. We ignore blogs as news sources (except for a few that we know to be trustworthy), so the only other source of information we can find is the Forbes website, where there’s a column by Peter J Reilly. His headline is Kent Hovind In Pensacola – Looks Like No Trial On Monday.

Whoa — that’s news! Here are some excerpts, with bold font added by us:

The retrial of Kent Hovind and Paul John Hansen on fraud and conspiracy charges was scheduled to commence on Monday in Pensacola. Last minute motions for a dismissal crafted with assistance from the United States Justice Foundation prompted the United States attorney to apply for a continuance, but Judge Margaret Casey Rodgers indicated that she would brook no delay.

That sounds normal. The defendant tries some last minute gyrations, but the judge says the trial will proceed. So why is there no trial on Monday? Reilly says:

Much to the delight of Kent Hovind’s supporters the Government has moved to dismiss the remaining counts of the indictment without prejudice.

Huh? What’s going on here? That “without prejudice” phrase means the feds can file the charges again, but why are they dismissing them now? Reilly’s column has a zillion videos — which we haven’t looked at — but we don’t find any explanation as to why the feds have dropped all the remaining counts against Hovind (and presumably has co-defendant, Hansen). Reilly ends his column with this:

Hansen and Hovind are not out of the woods. They still face sentencing on the March contempt convictions.

So there you are. We don’t want to look at a dozen videos, and we won’t go dumpster-diving through a bunch of creationist blogs hoping for accurate information. We’ll just wait it out until a reliable source tells us what’s happening here.

Addendum: The Pensacola News Journal just posted this: Hovind retrial scheduled for this week. They say: “Beginning Monday, Hovind and Hansen will be tried a second time on charges of mail fraud and conspiracy to commit mail fraud.” We’re getting conflicting reports, so we’ll have to wait to see what happens.

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30 responses to “Charges Against Kent Hovind Dropped?

  1. wolfwalker

    Deep within the Forbes piece is a possible explanation:

    “Ernie points out what I agree was one of the serious weaknesses in the government’s case. Due to his incarceration everything Kent has done has been in the open, so while it might be reasonable to have convicted him on contempt of court, it seems to be an uphill battle to argue for fraud and conspiracy. Apparently the government may have also reached that conclusion”

  2. wolfwalker says: “Deep within the Forbes piece is a possible explanation”

    Speculation only. I’m not running a rumor mill. I want to hear it from the feds, or from the judge, or from a journalist who has heard from them.

  3. In other words, the feds waved the white flag for fear of having to make a serious effort to prove charges against a lawbreaker and being accused of violating his religious rights to do as he pleases without regard for mere secular law.

    At least they left the door open for a new trial if the government ever grows a spine. But their apparent capitulation in this case opens another door, one likely to let through more fundamentalist mischief.

  4. Eric Lipps says: “But their apparent capitulation in this case opens another door, one likely to let through more fundamentalist mischief.”

    I shall now declare myself to be a sovereign Curmudgeon, a citizen of the universe, and the feds have no jurisdiction over me.

  5. There may be numerous administrative reasons for deciding not going to trial this week would be preferable.

    But it does appear that the catalyst for justifying a change was the last minute theatrics by Kent and Paul with those filings whining about the qualify of the indictment.

    So, TIffany with a slap in the face for Paul and Kent decided to move for a dismissal with prejudice, noting that she may be back with language even Kent and Paul should be able to understand; maybe she’ll even have more charges and more defendants.

    I’m sure Kent and his Cult of Hovind members will find plenty to whine about when they figure out what is really going on.

    There could still be some excitement at the courthouse tomorrow morning as Judge Rodgers rules on everything before moving on to other business that has been backing up since the the mold issue came up.

    As the reporting, such as it is, continues, we may be hearing more about all the details.

    Jonathan Schwartz, Interlock Media documentary filmmaker is in Pensacola with his team(s) and will continue to develop his coverage of the story this week.

  6. Duskangels

    Hahahaha!! I love it when the haters of God get their asses spanked!

  7. I think it kinda annoying when anonymous, cowardly, Cult of Hovind members execute their “Cause Stalking” techniques as reflected above instead of openly and honestly engaging in a discussion of Kent Hovind’s legal problems.

    Bwahahahahahahaha!

  8. DickVanstone

    “I shall now declare myself to be a sovereign Curmudgeon, a citizen of the universe, and the feds have no jurisdiction over me.”

    A slave is a slave is a slave. It matters not what the chains that bind him are composed, only that they are in fact bound. It can be religion, a plantation owner with armed enforcers, or written Law. A slave is one without Reason, Liberty, or Free Enterprise.

    “The Constitution has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case, it is unfit to exist.” – Lysander Spooner

    “Speculation only. I’m not running a rumor mill. I want to hear it from the feds, or from the judge, or from a journalist who has heard from them.”

    Am I the only one who laughed at that?

    PS: I will gladly show myself to the door, just let me know.

  9. Stephen Kennedy

    Hovind was convicted of contempt of court and will be sentenced on that conviction in June so it does not look like he will be released in August as was originally planned.

    In addition, even after Hovind is released he will still be on probation. Given his stupidity, he is almost certainly going to do something that will violate his probation which will send him back to prison.

  10. DickVanstone

    For clarification I am not calling your blog a rumor mill. The three entities you have mentioned, well, that is what they do.

  11. Stephen Kennedy

    Who is Lysander Spooner? It sounds like he is some kind idiot.

  12. “Although we find Kent Hovind (a/k/a “Dr. Dino”) amusing, the press treats him as an uninteresting, marginal buffoon.”

    To be fair, Kent Hovind is an uninteresting, marginal buffoon.

  13. “Who is Lysander Spooner? It sounds like he is some kind idiot.”

    Maybe so, but he almost certainly wasn’t a Creationist idiot.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysander_Spooner

  14. This is nothing too very unusual. If anything, it was rather surprising the Feds tried to retry Hovind and cohort when the jury hung on those charges. It’s not like they haven’t made an example of him already.

    As the government noted in its motion:

    The Executive remains the absolute judge of whether a prosecution should be initiated and the first and presumptively the best judge of whether a pending prosecution should be terminated.

    The exercise of its discretion with respect to the termination of pending prosecutions should not be judicially disturbed unless clearly contrary to manifest public interest.

    If it feels at all uncomfortable about the original (second) indictment, they can dismiss it without prejudice and bring it again, as long as it is within the statue of limitations.

  15. DickVanstone

    Well Stephen Kennedy, if he is some kind of idiot, it should be a cake-walk to deconstruct his quote and show it’s fault.
    I think he may have been onto something as that quote was taken in the context of the Civil War. A war fought in order to preserve the Union. Preserve power at the expense of hundred’s of thousands of lives who said no to said power. Now either this Constitution that boasts of limited government was either powerless to stop the Civil War then, and later Legal Tender Laws, the ‘Federal’ Reserve, endless war upon war upon war of any and all variety, mass surveillance, mass incarceration(5% world’s pop, 25% world’s prisoner pop), etc. OR it condones such government. Apparently that’s hunky dory. But yeah, HE’S some kind of idiot.

    Maybe read his words before getting an opinion from others about him: http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/No_Treason/6

  16. DickVanstone

    Going after the low-hanging fruit that is Klinghoffer and ignoring the real problems at hand. I’ll see myself out.

  17. DickVanstone

    Semper Fidelis to the People, Always.

  18. Stephen Kennedy

    DickVanStone, There are countries in the world that do not have a functioning government where you probably do not have to pay taxes or comply with any government regulations. Somalia is one that comes to mind but there are others. However, before you pack your bags you should realize there is a reason why these places are called “failed states”.

    A functioning society requires a functioning government that must be paid for and this is something responsible citizens recognize. When are you people going to grow up and start to accept the obligations that come with being part of this society and the benefits of living in a functioning state?

  19. Speculation is fine as long as you are clear you are speculating. I speculate on a more mundane reason. A more pressing case ended up in the docket. It’s the government with all the inefficiencies that come with that. The trial date of May 18 was to allow for the sentencing to include any successful prosecution of any of the previous unsuccessful charges. Hovind isn’t going anywhere so they’ll just retry when they have time, if they feel like it.

  20. I just added this addendum to the original post:

    The Pensacola News Journal just posted this: Hovind retrial scheduled for this week. They say: “Beginning Monday, Hovind and Hansen will be tried a second time on charges of mail fraud and conspiracy to commit mail fraud.” We’re getting conflicting reports, so we’ll have to wait to see what happens.

  21. DickVanstone

    Your ‘functioning society’ is anything but. It is a murderous, cruel, inhumane society full of hypocrisy, lies, war-mongers, chicken-hawks, prisoners, arrogance and the Proudly Ignorant touting us as the beacon of Liberty, Reason, Freedom and all that is good. We are in fact a rotting empire and one so disgustingly bloated it will be obvious to even the most blindly ignorant when its corpse explodes.

    I don’t think there should be no government, but rather a government of CONSENT! Without which there is no such thing as freedom. Would be a nice strawman if it weren’t so obvious. I hate to agree with creationists, but some people really DO worship the State.

    There are none so blind as those that won’t see.

  22. Dick seems to be using a sovcit tactic playing a little word game.

    Kent and Paul, as I recall, make a big deal out of their alleged lack of CONSENT and so claim to be exempt from the laws that “we the people” have consented to be governed by.

    See also:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consent_of_the_governed

  23. DickVanstone

    No I am not making the freeman on the land claim. I know I am a slave, hence the anger bubbling in my posts. I had to do the “shut up and assimilate” for 5 years as a Marine and now that dog won’t hunt. I posted this link the other day and don’t want to abuse any privileges here, but this gentleman has a wealth of information laid out in the most informative way. There is also some great bits of information in some of the comments. http://www.thetruthaboutthelaw.com

    I also belay my last statement about hating to agree with creationists. Humanity has a common enemy, one which wields massive power and has pit humanity against one another since the Napoleonic Wars. I will NOT be a tool for them ever again. I’d sooner eat a bullet than turn away an ally.

    Sic semper evello mortem tyrranis.

  24. Not to put too fine a point on it, DickVanstone, but didn’t you say that you would see yourself out?

    So why keep posting after you say that?

  25. This “sovereign citizen” stuff that Hovind and others are pulling is complete tosh:

    The bible itself forbids it!
    –Ephesians 6:5
    Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ.

    Colossians 3:22
    Servants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh; not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but in singleness of heart, fearing God.

    1 Timothy 6:1
    Let as many servants as are under the yoke count their own masters worthy of all honour, that the name of God and his doctrine be not blasphemed.

    Titus 2:9-10
    Exhort servants to be obedient unto their own masters, and to please them well in all things; not answering again; Not purloining, but shewing all good fidelity; that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Saviour in all things.

    1 Peter 2:18
    Servants, be subject to your masters with all fear; not only to the good and gentle, but also to the froward.

    –Acts 23:5
    Paul replied, “Brothers, I did not realize that he was the high priest; for it is written: ‘Do not speak evil about the ruler of your people.'”

  26. Romans 13:1-7, especially the last two verses really ought to shut down tax protestors:
    “… For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God’s ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.

    7 Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.”

  27. Reynold Hall asks:

    DickVanstone, but didn’t you say that you would see yourself out?

    I’ve been wondering the same thing.

  28. I went to court today. Judge Rodgers will issue two orders later today. The first one will probably order dismissal of the remaining counts. The other will address Kent Hovind’s Rule 29 motion to dismiss his conviction on the criminal contempt of court count (say that 10 times!). I expect that to be denied. The judge also made it clear (and she wanted it on the record) that she wasn’t swayed by the arguments in Hovind’s motion to dismiss last week. I believe this motion was based on arguments presented and paid for by the United States Justice Foundation and given to Kent’s public defender, Thomas Keith.

    Hansen is representing himself and wanted all charges dropped and wanted to be let out of jail. He stated that the maximum sentence for criminal contempt was six months. [I believe Hansen is confused here. Judge Rodgers could have sent him to jail for six months on her own motion, but apparently this was judged to be “serious” criminal contempt and the prosecution is likely bucking for a higher sentence.] And, since I’m most interested in the proceedings from a sovereign citizen viewpoint, I note that Hansen passed a yellow piece of paper to the lead prosecutor, Tiffany Eggers, and asked the judge to have Eggers say for the record whether her license works at this location. Judge Rodgers: “I won’t allow it. I won’t order it.”

    Both defendants were returned to jail. Judge Rodgers is going to follow up with the probation department to see how the pre-sentencing report is going. I believe the sentencing is on June 22.

    By the way, the courtroom was crawling with U.S. Marshals. I think they were concerned about a wide Hovindicator turnout, but I don’t think there were more than 15 total in the courtroom.