The Discoveroids’ Hitler-Darwin Theory Refuted

We are constantly being told by the Discoveroids that Darwin’s theory led directly to Hitler, and communism, and Stalin, and Mao Tse-tung, and Dr. Josef Mengele, and numerous other horrors.

This is remarkable, considering that science can only flourish in freedom. It began with the Greeks, and it has greatly accelerated since the Enlightenment. How is it possible for the Discoveroids to associate science with tyranny?

In the real world — which is far from the world of creationism — there is evidence to contradict the Discoveroids’ claims. For example, Stalin rejected evolution in favor of the crazed beliefs of Trofim Denisovich Lysenko. And as we’ve often discussed, Hitler never even mentioned Darwin in his writings, although Churchill did. We have no idea what Mao thought about Darwin, if anything, but we’ve never heard of any original science coming out of China during his reign.

We found a new article today in Science, published by the American Association for the Advancement of Science. It’s titled How the Franco dictatorship destroyed Spanish science. It says:

Francisco Franco ruled over Spain from 1939 until his death in 1975. His nationalist, authoritarian regime had a brutal grip on the country’s political and cultural life — but also on science, according to Education, science and ideology in Spain (1890–1950), a recent book published in Spanish.

The article is an interview with Castillo Martos, one of the authors. It’s all good, and we recommend that you read it, so a few excerpts will be sufficient to make our point. We added a bit of bold font for emphasis:

Question: What other means did Franco’s regime use to control academic inquiry?

Answer: We found unpublished data about prohibitions in Spanish universities banning Darwin’s books. The Franco regime defended the literalism of the Bible, which was considered an infallible account, inspired by the word of God. Scientific ideas that contradicted it, such as Darwinist evolution, were considered unacceptable.

How surprising! Although Franco’s Spain stayed out of World War II, they were friendly to the Hitler regime — see Spain and World War II.

In response to another question, Martos said:

Under Franco, the CSIC [Spanish National Research Council] was in the hands of the Opus Dei. That’s the reality.

Here’s one more excerpt:

Question: Are dictatorships in general bad for science?

Answer: We see similarities between what happened in Spain and other dictatorships in Portugal, Greece, or Germany. Science, and knowledge in general, have to develop and progress free from any ideological bonds, be they religious or political. That’s what no dictatorial regime can tolerate or admit.

We’re very confused! The Discovery Institute insists that science leads to terrible consequences. Their Wedge Document says so — see What is the “Wedge Document”? Specifically it states:

The social consequences of materialism have been devastating. As symptoms, those consequences are certainly worth treating. However, we are convinced that in order to defeat materialism, we must cut it off at its source. That source is scientific materialism. This is precisely our strategy. … [The theory of intelligent design (ID)] promises to reverse the stifling dominance of the materialist worldview, and to replace it with a science consonant with Christian and theistic convictions.

But reality strongly suggests that the Discoveroids have it completely backwards. Well, that’s no problem for creationists. Whenever their beliefs conflict with reality, they reject reality. That’s the essence of creationism.

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12 responses to “The Discoveroids’ Hitler-Darwin Theory Refuted

  1. michaelfugate

    500,000 dead in the Spanish Civil War overthrowing the republic and another 200,000 – 400,000 dead in concentration camps – oh, and he was a creationist!

  2. It is my guess that the discoveroids are unlikely to ever be right about anything, they are so pathologically afraid of, and ignorant about, reality.

  3. “…and to replace it with a science consonant with Christian and theistic convictions.”

    This pretty much sums up their total hatred for science and the enlightenment.

  4. “…and to replace it with a science consonant with Christian and theistic convictions.”

    Science is our means of discovering and describing reality. If we edit science so that it would be “consonant with Christian and theistic convictions”, it would no longer be a true description of reality, and thus, would no longer be science.

  5. retiredsciguy–you are correct. But there is no reason to expect that creationists want science to be “a true description of reality.” They want science to reflect and affirm their religious beliefs, and they will attempt to destroy any part of science that fails to do that.

    That the science they want “would no longer be science” doesn’t bother them in the least. They are only too willing to co-opt the mantle of science, and falsely assume its prestige earned over centuries of “discovering and describing reality” if it will further their anti-science cause. Bah!

  6. @Coyote
    And they want their religion to affirm their social and political beliefs. If that means ignoring or making up constructions of the Bible, so be it. If it means contradicting themselves, no problem.

  7. Ah, Opus Dei – fits excellently the Wedge Document.

    http://www.catholicity.com/mccloskey/singlesexedu.html

    Anyone who reads this entirely is a better person than me. The crucial bit is this:

    “Christ and the teachings of his Church are increasingly ignored or attacked by the majority of society. The secularist ideology of the Enlightenment, with its concepts of the inevitability of progress, the goodness of human nature in the primitive state, equality of condition as the goal of morality, etc., and its philosophical offspring in the works of Freud, Marx, Darwin, and Mill, has been influential in shaping the moral behavior of society.”

    But to be fair – even Opus Dei seems to have the flexibility to go with the Zeitgeist:

    http://www.catholicweekly.com.au/03/mar/2/16.html

    That’s something IDiots won’t ever do.

  8. It’s really quite simple – the Discotute, AiG and ICR are fascist. I mean, literally, actually fascist in every single way other than having a military force (although they’re certainly militant). Consequently, they see “materialist” science as a theory for the same reasons that fascists always have.

  9. Coyote, I agree with everything you said. My key point is, “it would no longer be science”, so the creationists couldn’t rightly “co-opt the mantle of science”.

    Frank J often writes here about the 50% or so in the middle, between the 25% hard-core creationists and the 25% secular. I would address my earlier comment to that middle 50%, pointing out the fallacy of the Discovery Institute’s call to replace rational science “with a science consonant with Christian and theistic convictions.”

  10. michaelfugate

    Nick, that seems like a complete politicization and bastardization of Darwin. How the author could tie Darwin to something so un-Darwin is beyond me.

  11. @mnb0
    Your second link (http://www.catholicweekly.com.au/03/mar/2/16.html) gives me a 404.