Creationist Wisdom #605: Science Leads to God

Today’s letter-to-the-editor appears in the Daily Reporter of Greenfield, Indiana. It’s titled Natural world reinforces reason for faith. The newspaper doesn’t have a comments feature.

Unless the letter-writer is a politician, preacher, or other public figure, we won’t embarrass or promote him by using his full name. But today we’ve got a preacher — Mike Hopper, pastor of Faith United Methodist Church. Excerpts from the rev’s letter will be enhanced with our Curmudgeonly commentary and some bold font for emphasis. Here we go!

Atheists tell us that the universe and everything in it exists by blind chance, without cause, purpose, or meaning. This view taken to its logical conclusion leaves us with no basis for future hope. For atheists, there is no basis for hope when our lives are broken now, and nothing to believe in beyond death.

Verily, theirs is a wretched existence. But the rev offers hope:

Modern science is continuing to reveal new evidences for the existence of God and his creative power. When our lives are broken by poverty, drugs, divorce, serious illness and family problems, we have an eternal God who still loves us.

That’s a big help. Let’s read on:

An honest and thoughtful review of three universal scientific principles points us to God and His love for us. First, the principle of causality tells us that every effect we see in the universe had a prior cause. Nothing suddenly pops into existence from nothingness. [Mined quote from Robert Jastrow.]

God’s existence, of course, somehow violates the principle of causality, but the rev seems unconcerned. He continues:

Second, the principle of energy filling the universe takes us to the source of creation.

We didn’t know about the “principle of energy filling the universe.” It’s always good to learn new things. Here’s more:

Scientists have recently discovered that “Dark Energy” and “Dark Matter,” which cannot be seen or explained apart from the existence of God, make up 95 percent of everything that exists.

Aha — God explains dark energy and dark matter. We didn’t know that either. This is a great letter! Moving along:

The greatest power you can experience for solving personal problems is not human energy or effort, but divine energy flowing from a loving creator. Tapping into that energy requires only that you honestly seek God, and ask Him to help you.

That’s good to know. Another excerpt:

Third, life itself is providing increasing evidence for the existence of God. Abiogenesis (life springing from non-living things) has been widely supported for more than a century as proof for atheistic evolution.

That’s something else we didn’t know. This is amazing! On with the letter:

However, DNA and RNA molecules are so complex that no scientist has yet produced living and reproducing cells, which are the basic requirement for any human existence. [Quote from Jerry Bergman about “complexity that cannot be bridged by any known natural means.”] Life coming only from life points directly to a life giver.

We’ll skip the inspirational paragraph at the end, but we know you’ll want to click over there to read it. And so we leave the rev’s letter, with our understanding of things greatly enriched. Was it good for you too?

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14 responses to “Creationist Wisdom #605: Science Leads to God

  1. Would have been interesting if he hadn’t got the science wrong. And for atheists living without hope or belief, I quote W.C. Fields: “Everybody ought to believe in something; I believe I will have another beer.” And if I may edit Benjamin Franklin: “Beer is is proof nature wants us to be happy.”

    Here’s to you and all you do, Curmudg! Cheers!

  2. I look forward to reading in this week’s Nature that the Rev’s beloved celestial cephalopod is responsible for dark matter and energy. But I’m not holding my breath.

  3. Mike Elzinga

    If science leads to God, where does sectarian pseudoscience take us? My irony meter just exploded.

  4. Say again that creascience doesn’t make progress! Hopping Reve Mike has taught us so much today.
    Dark energy is flowing directly from God the Creator to me, poor MNb, to help me solving my problems! Who could have thought! Only the genius Hopping Rev Mike of course.

  5. … so complex that no [designer] has yet produced …

    That is perhaps my favorite argument for “design”.

  6. I’d like to invite Rev. Hopper to pray for that “divine energy flowing from a loving creator” in one hand and defecate in the other and see which one fills up first.

    Maybe he can do this publicly to give Klinghoffer something to write about.

  7. “family problems, we have an eternal God who still loves us.” Since it is the source of all evil I don’t need his love!
    “Nothing suddenly pops into existence from nothingness.” show how ignorant you are of Astrophysics.
    And your ignorance does not mean your imaginary fiend is the cause.

  8. Charles Deetz ;)

    I never knew the three universal scientific principles before. I learned something!

  9. Curmy says, “Aha — God explains dark energy and dark matter. We didn’t know that either.”

    Oh yes you did — “God o’ the Gaps”!

  10. One wonders about the wisdom in bringing up God to “explain” the latest puzzle in science. Don’t people remember that science is in the business of discovering puzzles? Scientists would be out of work if they didn’t have puzzles, so they are motivated to find things to give them something to earn their paychecks. Even if they weren’t in science because it is interesting to solve really challenging problems.

  11. Dave Luckett

    This letter illustrates an important point: that falsehood is all false, from the top down, even – especially – when the occasional fact surfaces. The rev’s falsehood starts in his first sentence, which is a flat lie.

    I know no atheist who ever said that the Universe is without purpose or meaning. What I’ve heard is that purpose and meaning is what we give it, not what we think is imposed on it by something – or somebody – else. It’s us that gives the meaning. We give it collectively. We give it severally. We define and pursue our purposes, as a society, and as individuals. But it’s we who do that.

    And that is precisely where the clergy of an organised religion jump ship. As far as they’re concerned the meaning and purpose of the Universe and of our lives is whatever they assert them to be. That is, in the rev’s mind, it’s not his hearers that decide. It’s him. He can’t stand the idea that he doesn’t get to do that. He’s professionally obligated not to stand it.

    As his initial sentence, so the rest. Of course his false assertions must gall anyone who actually respects reality. Another important principle is illustrated: to be accepted as true, a pronouncement need not actually be true. All it needs to be is, one, authoritative, and two, not directly contradicted by the knowledge of the receiver.

    So all the asserter needs, for this effect to work, is a certain gravitas, and to be one step ahead of the mark.

    The crunch comes when the hearer actually realises that the facts are not as presented. There is no “principle of causality”. There is no principle of “Life coming only from life”. Energy might fill the Universe, but so does vacuum. What connection that has with “God and His love for us” is not explained by the rev. He doesn’t explain it, because he can’t. There is no connection.

    As soon as that is seen, the whole thing unravels. The rev is no longer that vital step ahead. He’s seen to be what he is: one who trades on credulity. His method, manner and matter is the same as every con-man, shill, and snake-oil salesman in history.

    See that, and the wheels come off. In fact, they were never there in the first place. But the trick is to see that.

  12. As far as the source of the authority of the statement that life has meaning –
    I would guess that many people would say that it is not on their authority,
    but it is from God. But is the Bible concerned about the meaning of life? Or, like so often, is this a modern question, and the moderns make up answers and impose them on the Bible?

  13. Dave Luckett

    I can only respond that the Bible is not concerned with any particular, specific meaning, because the Bible was composed by many different minds, writing about many different things. It’s possible in most cases to give a fairly generally agreed approximation of what some specific passage of the Bible means, but as to what life means – why, I don’t think the Bible ever says, in any explicit or specific way.

    There’s always communication theory to fall back on: the meaning of a message is what it means to the receiver, not what was intended by the sender. But that means that we construct and impose meaning for ourselves. Or we go without. That is, even if it is God who sends the message, the meaning is the one we find in it. So God isn’t sovereign. We are.

    Odd thought.

  14. Third, life itself is providing increasing evidence for the existence of God. Abiogenesis (life springing from non-living things) has been widely supported for more than a century as proof for atheistic evolution.
    ….

    However, DNA and RNA molecules are so complex that no scientist has yet produced living and reproducing cells, which are the basic requirement for any human existence. [Quote from Jerry Bergman about “complexity that cannot be bridged by any known natural means.”] Life coming only from life points directly to a life giver.

    And if scientists do produce such cells, either Casey will cry fraud or he’ll bray, “Aha! You see? Life requires a creator!”