NASA’s Big Mars Announcement

All weekend long — when the Pope’s visit hasn’t dominated the news — we’ve been hearing that NASA would be making an announcement that would resolve an old Martian mystery. But there’s been no word yet about what that might be.

This article in the Telegraph is typical: NASA Mars announcement: Is there life or water on Mars?

The NASA website has this teaser: NASA to Announce Mars Mystery Solved, which says:

NASA will detail a major science finding from the agency’s ongoing exploration of Mars during a news briefing at 8:30 a.m. PDT (11:30 a.m. EDT) on Monday, Sept. 28. The event will be broadcast live on NASA Television and the agency’s website.

You can watch the NASA TV broadcast right here.

We have no idea what’s going on, but we hope it’s worth all the buildup. When the news breaks (about four hours from the time we’re posting), we’ll discuss it here. Stay tuned to this blog!

Addendum: It’s water. PhysOrg just put up an article: NASA confirms evidence that liquid water flows on today’s Mars, which begins: “New findings from NASA’s Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter (MRO) provide the strongest evidence yet that liquid water flows intermittently on present-day Mars.”

See also: AIG’s Head Buried in the Sands of Mars.

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25 responses to “NASA’s Big Mars Announcement

  1. Whatever it is, it will be proof of Intelligent Design.

  2. Thanks for the “heads up” on this.

  3. Speculation is rampant. Have they found the Ark of the Covenant? The Templar’s treasure? The headquarters of the intelligent designer? The remains of Noah’s Ark? The ruins of an ancient Martian city?

  4. If the announcement is the discovery of flowing water (as most rumours seem to have it), anyone care to bet on how long before our terrestrial YEC’s claim they have finally solved the mystery of where all the water went after Noah’s Flood?

  5. Megalonyx speculates: “anyone care to bet on how long before our terrestrial YEC’s claim they have finally solved the mystery of where all the water went after Noah’s Flood?”

    While we are merely waiting for the news, the creationist websites are gearing up to put a biblical spin on whatever the news may be, so they can claim that they knew it all along. That will be difficult, as the entire bible contains only two cryptic mentions of the planets. Probably the best they can do is repeat that “The heavens declare the glory of God.” Or, if they find the news offensive, they will claim that the scientists are lying, or putting a secular spin on things. We shall see.

  6. SC said:
    Speculation is rampant. Have they found the Ark of the Covenant? The Templar’s treasure? The headquarters of the intelligent designer? The remains of Noah’s Ark? The ruins of an ancient Martian city?

    I will opt for Noah’s Ark. There have been too many Ark search programs on the History channel to ignore the evidence(?). In addition, the Face on Mars is a monument of the blessed designer, providing a significant link between the two and indisputable proof of ID.

  7. Charles Deetz ;)

    Is the announcement a follow-up to the evil caused by the blood moon eclipse? Mars will start hurling towards Earth any day now, the announcement will state.

  8. It’s water. PhysOrg just put up an article: NASA confirms evidence that liquid water flows on today’s Mars, which begins: “New findings from NASA’s Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter (MRO) provide the strongest evidence yet that liquid water flows intermittently on present-day Mars.”

  9. Watching NASA TV now — Great stuff! Not only good example of new science findings, but of how science works when done honestly and diligently. Both concepts are, of course, anathema to the mental defectives who ply the halls at creationist belief tanks like ICR, DI, and not least of all the drones at AiG.

  10. Our Curmudgeon reports

    It’s water.

    You fool!

    It is extremely briny water! There can be absolutely no doubt whatsoever that the missing waters of the Noachic Flood have indeed be found!

    Take that, you doubting Evilutionists! The only lake that awaits you is the eternal Lake ‘o Fire!!!

  11. Megalonyx dares to say: “You fool!

    You, Megalonyx, are the real fool! This water stuff has always been known by creationists, but they never bothered to make a big deal of it because it would be a distraction. It is written in Genesis 1:6-7 (King James version, of course):

    6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

    7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

  12. Can we send all the creationists to Mars in search of the Ark?

  13. michaelfugate, it’s not a bad idea, but we might need that planet later.

  14. Over at he AiG page, Ken Ham will be telling us that the discovery of liquid water on Mars is in NO way proof of extraterrestrial life in three, two, one …

  15. dweller, but “creation science” will never allow them to successfully colonize, no?

  16. I wonder — will we find little sea monkeys in the salt water of Mars? You know — those little brine shrimp hawked in the back pages of comic books, along with the x-ray glasses and the “electric shock” handshake buzzers?

  17. The usual suspects (ICR, Hambo, and the Discoveroids) aren’t saying anything about this. Maybe they’re hoping it will just go away.

  18. True, true. A bit of a clutter here and there, but no big deal, Michael.

  19. Sounds like the perfect place for salt-loving bacteria like in the Western U.S. Some of these species grow in 3-5 molar NaCl.

  20. HAH! I knew it! I even told you so! Answers in Genesis is on the ball already:
    https://answersingenesis.org/blogs/danny-faulkner/mars-water-much-ado-about-very-little/
    Technically this piece is written by Danny Faulkner rather than the Hamster in person, but we know who runs the show.

    Faulkner: “The continued hype about water and possible life on Mars is all wishful thinking of evolutionists desperate for some evidence that the evolution of life has occurred somewhere.”

  21. H. K. Fauskanger says: “HAH! I knew it! I even told you so! Answers in Genesis is on the ball already”

    Darn! I’ve been looking all day, and there was nothing. So I take a break to feed the dogs and you found it before I did. [*Mumble, grumble*] I’ll look it over and see if it’s worth my time.

  22. The NASA presentation exceeded my expectations, especially the presentation by graduate student Lujendra Ojha of the Georgia Institute of Technology in Atlanta. To me the best slide was the one comparing the phases of water on Earth (liquid between 0-100 C) and Mars (0-10 C) – don’t recall exactly and can’t find the NASA slides, and a perchlorate salt solution that has a much wider range (-70 – 10 C). Deliquescence of perchlorate salts had already been observed on Mars, so this is not a new development, but this as a mechanism for the “damp soil” observations ties together a lot of research and observations into a more complete picture. Whether the source of the water is atmospheric or (more likely) a subsurface aquifer has yet to be determined.

  23. Why are AiG panicking (again)? Surely any bacteria in or near the briny water – unlike any intelligent aliens outside of planet Earth – don’t need salvation from Jesus thus their creation/evolution would not be ‘unbiblical’?

  24. ‘Answers in Genesis’ are pathological Christian reality-deniers.

    The latest proof of that, if needed (a rushed rather panicked ‘response’ to a big news story):
    https://answersingenesis.org/blogs/danny-faulkner/mars-water-much-ado-about-very-little/

    “NASA officials announced in a press conference the discovery of evidence of liquid water on the surface of Mars. Or, maybe not.”

    The last three words are a deliberate falsehood. NASA did NOT hold a press conference to announce ‘Maybe there’s liquid water on Mars maybe there isn’t, who knows’.

    The reality:
    http://www.nature.com/ngeo/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/ngeo2546.html
    From the Abstract (which liar Faulkner fails to link anybody to directly though you can be absolutely certain that he examined the paper): “Our findings strongly support the hypothesis that recurring slope lineae form as a result of contemporary water activity on Mars.”

    But this is deliberate conscious muddying of the waters (pun unintended) by AiG. So that Ken Ham or one of his henchmen could then write on his Facebook page:
    “As you will find out, there could be, perhaps, maybe, we don’t really know, possibly be, maybe, evidence of water on Mars—well, could be! At least this possibly maybe news about the maybe existence of water on Mars really excites the secular world! What they really need to get excited about is that “the heavens declare the glory of God.” Read AiG astronomer Dr. Danny Faulkner’s interesting appraisal of this maybe perhaps great scientific breakthrough below.”

    This from a man who claims to ‘love’ science🙂

    The Nature Geoscience paper also states: “we find evidence for hydrated salts” and “the hydrated salts most consistent with the spectral absorption features we detect are magnesium perchlorate, magnesium chlorate and sodium perchlorate”.
    Yet Faulkner pushes the line: “While the IR spectral features are consistent with certain hydrated salts, this is not definitive proof that that is actually what is present—other substances could account for these spectral features as well” (if this is true he does not elaborate on what other possible substances he might be thinking of).

    Weirdly, after seeking to belittle the announcement of 28 September, Faulkner then concedes that there has been (abundant) liquid water on the surface of Mars in the past (a past which for AiG staff only extends back around 6,000 years even though in reality the solar system is over 4 billion years old and any past Martian oceans did not dry up in just thousands of years).

    But Faulkner’s punchline is that this is all ‘hype’ – and that any bacterial life on Mars (rather unbiblical bacterial life since Genesis only refers to life being created on Earth) would not prove that evolution occurred there (he would of course wish to say that no evolution on Mars means no evolution on Earth).

    Formerly I suspect these religious reality deniers wished to persuade their supporters that liquid briny water on Mars must be ‘unbiblical’ (because it MIGHT point to primitive life there now or in the past, and any primitive life there MIGHT shock horror point away from Genesis and towards evolution – and we can’t have Christians thinking about that possibility). However they now appear to accept liquid water there in the recent past geologically – but still insist ‘probably no primitive life and even if there was or is it’s still no evidence for evolution or life starting naturalistically – or against biblical creation a la Genesis, sort of’.