Creationist Wisdom #620: Another from Swaziland

When we recently departed from our focus on Europe and the English-speaking countries, and wrote Creationist Wisdom #616: Letter from Swaziland, we thought it was a one-time aberration. But we were wrong.

Today’s letter-to-the-editor also appears in the Times Of Swaziland, the oldest newspaper in the Kingdom of Swaziland. It’s titled QALAKALIBOLI IS RIGHT ON EVOLUTION. That refers to the letter we wrote about earlier. The newspaper has a comments feature.

We don’t like to embarrass people (unless they’re politicians, preachers, or other public figures), but our customary discretion isn’t necessary here. The letter-writer is identified only as Swazi Citizen. We’ll give you a few excerpts from his letter, enhanced with our Curmudgeonly commentary and some bold font for emphasis. Also, some of the spelling and grammar is a bit odd, but our excerpts are exactly what appears at the newspaper’s website. Here we go!

Since the discovery of some old fossilised bones, most probably belonging to an extinct species of ape in a cave in South Africa, the debate over the religion versus evolution has heated up again.

He’s referring, of course, to Homo naledi. Swazi Citizen says:

Even though people may have their own opinion, they should not avoid looking at the bigger picture. Unlike religion, particularly the Judeo-Christian religion whose origins can be traced back to Middle-Eastern regions of Asia, the theory of evolution is a relatively recent belief (in the absence of observable proof) that the universe, the planets and life somehow magically appeared out of nothing without having been created by a higher power or supreme being.

As is the case with so many creationists, Swazi Citizen lumps the Big Bang, the formation of the solar system, and the origin of life together with the theory of evolution. Interestingly, he feels that if everything weren’t “created by a higher power or supreme being,” that would be magic — a curious inversion of science and religion. Let’s read on:

Most aspects of science require conducting experiments and observing different processes to reach proves scientific conclusions. Evolutionary science, however, relies on the evolution of an idea, which was invented by a certain individual/s who hadn’t even had the privilege of seeing the same extinct ape bones being unearthed by scientists in South African caves. The morphing of one species into an entirely new and different species has never been observed.

We like that “morphing” expression. It brings to mind the transformation of Dracula into a bat. Swazi Citizen continues:

Old bones don’t prove anything just as gorilla bones don’t. Religions on the other hands and Christianity in particular, not only explains the origins of everything but also give us the Creator’s living word – the bible.

Ken Ham couldn’t have said it better. Here’s more:

Until as recently as 500 years ago, scientists of the times were still uncertain as to whether the world was round or flat. But the bible supposedly written by ignorant people from the stone-age, explain that the world is round (Gen 1:6-8).

Aaaargh!! It has been known since Aristotle that the world is a sphere. Eratosthenes, around two centuries BC, even calculated its circumference. As for Genesis 1:6-8, you may decide for yourself whether it describes the shape of the world. It says (King James version, of course):

6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

So far, the letter has been fairly typical. But now it gets strange:

Through the bible, we can find answers too many of life’s mysteries, which would otherwise be dismissed as superstitious nonsense or myths.

This is where Swazi Citizen wanders off into some strange territory, discussing “would otherwise be dismissed as superstitious nonsense or myths.” He talks about hollow earth theory and it’s influence on Hitler. He also talks about Atlantis, angels breeding with human women, and Noah’s Flood. You may read the letter and judge for yourself, but it appears to us that Swazi Citizen doesn’t think any of those things are myths.

We don’t see the relevance of that material — unless it’s to somehow demonstrate the bible’s infallibility — so we’ll skip it. That brings us to the letter’s final paragraph:

Could all this just be coincidence? In fact, we are told that Satan will be set free from his prison and will go out and deceive the nations (Rev 20:7). Could this already by happening? And how does all of this fit in with the theory of evolution? It doesn’t. If anything is a myth, it is the evolution delusion.

So there you are, dear reader. This may be the strangest letter in our entire collection, and it will probably be our last one from Swaziland.

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7 responses to “Creationist Wisdom #620: Another from Swaziland

  1. “The morphing of one species into an entirely new and different species has never been observed.”
    Of course our dear Swazi Citizen has missed that observing this (a dog morphing into a cat for instance) would actually refute Evolution Theory.

  2. Holy crap, that letter is truly bizarre. Methinks someone has been licking the toad or gnawing the cactus, so to speak.

  3. “The morphing of one species into an entirely new and different species has never been observed.”

    My favorite version of that type of confusion in YEC literature and videos is their assumption that “We should all be seeing the in-between creatures, not just the fully-formed ones where the evolution is complete.” And if you question them further, they will explain what they think is obvious: that The Theory of Evolution predicts that we should see “in-between” and “NOT fully-formed” individuals, both live and in the fossil record, where the creature has only one wing, on the way to evolving two of them, and lots of hybrid-looking chimeras with countless of those purely random evolutionary experiments like an eyeball on the big toe (to avoid tripping over things) and an occasional prehensile tail (to hold a flashlight when working under the the hood of your car at night.) In their concept of evolution, a Mr. & Mrs. Creature look down at their newborn, the youngest of their three children, and one of them says, “Ya know, we really can’t complain. The laws of statistics were bound to catch up with us eventually. Our first two kids were fully-formed individuals but #3 is a transitional form—and it may take his descendents six, eight, maybe even ten generations of transitionals in order to get to another fully-formed individual. Life is going to be hard for them, no doubt about it. We’ll probably have to put him in an alternative school where they bus in all of the transitionals from throughout the county, ” If you don’t believe any of this, ask them exactly what they mean when they’ve said to you, “If The Theory of Evolution were true, we should be seeing LOTS of transitional forms everywhere we look.”

    Indeed, it can be fun to ask them how we can tell the difference between “fully-formed individual” and a “transitional form”. I once said to a particularly defiant Young Earth Creationist, “Could you perhaps be a transitional form and not know it?” He shot back with, “My foot! Of course not.” I replied, “Great example! The toes on your foot are “transitioning”** to where they could already be called vestigial. I know a few individuals lacking hands who have trained their toes to do finger-like manipulations–but I’d bet that their capabilities still fall short of our evolutionary ancestors long ago. Our human toes no longer do all that much for us.” I’ve also asked YECs how their unpublished “Comprehensive Theory of Special Creation” explains toenails, considering how it’s just not that hard even for non-scientists to imagine how The Theory of Evolution could explain such structures.
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    ** FOOTNOTE: Of course, populations evolve in terms of allele frequency distributions over time but some denialists still assume that “evolutionists” think that some individuals creatures evolve during a lifetime.

  4. Professor Tertius provides a

    ** FOOTNOTE

    In light of your observations on the transitional nature of human feet, we may need a fresh term for this useful editorial apparatus!

  5. Kudos to Megalonyx! My RA thought that it would be ignored as one of my chronic groaners. (Instead, it’s noticed as one of my chronic groaners.)

  6. BTW, the “hollow earth” thing dates back quite some time, back before old earth creationism, as an explanation for where the “waters of the deeps” come from.

  7. In fact, we are told that Satan will be set free from his prison and will go out and deceive the nations (Rev 20:7). Could this already by happening? And how does all of this fit in with the theory of evolution? It doesn’t. If anything is a myth, it is the evolution delusion.

    “Scientific” creationists must squirm at this sort of “support,” which slides from goofy pseudoscience into flat-out Bible babble, Satan included–thereby exposing the man behind the curtain.

    Of course drivel about Satan being set loose from his prison doesn’t fit in with evolution. Neither does astrology. How does that prove anything to anyone who’s not already a believer in Biblical literalism (or astrology)? And do such people really need proof, or even evidence?