Answers in Genesis — Alien Probes and Darwin

The creation scientists at Answers in Genesis (AIG) — the creationist ministry of Ken Ham (ol’ Hambo) — have just posted Alien Abductions: Freaky or Fiction?

AIG’s author is Danny Faulkner. Here’s their biographical information about him. They say he taught physics and astronomy until he joined AIG. His undergraduate degree is from Bob Jones University. That should make him an expert on alien probes. Here are some excerpts, with bold font added by us:

The new show at Stargazers Planetarium, Aliens: Fact or Fiction?, and the new Pocket Guide to UFOs & ETs point out that the Bible does not address the question of whether there is intelligent life elsewhere in the universe.

Wowie — a pocket guide to UFOs & ET! No one should leave home without one of those. But the fun has only just begun:

However, we can use biblical principles to reach a conclusion about ETs. Romans 8 makes it clear that man’s sin has tainted the entire universe. So if there were beings on other planets similar to man, then those beings would be subject to the effects of man’s sin.

Yes, there’s no doubt that the sin of Adam & Eve affected the whole universe. Let’s read on:

Would this be just? Could sentient beings on other planets be fallen creatures? If so, and since these beings are not descendants of Adam, what would be God’s plan of redemption for them? The Bible indicates that man was made in God’s image (Genesis 1:26) and is the center of God’s attention (Hebrews 2:7), leaving no room for other beings. It is clear from these and other considerations that there are no “aliens” living on other planets.

Okay, that settles it. There are no aliens. Faulkner continues:

If there are no extraterrestrial aliens, then there can be no flying saucers piloted by them.However, some people have reported more than just sightings of flying saucers, but have gone further to say that they have had direct interaction with aliens. Some of these reports merely are communication with aliens, while others involve being taken aboard spaceships. Some of these stories include traveling great distances aboard spacecraft. Much more disturbing, some people claim that while aboard spacecraft, aliens carried out bizarre investigations of their bodies. Many of these amount to vivisections and often are sexual in nature. We cannot attribute these sorts of claims to misidentifications, so what are we to make of many of these claims of alien abductions?

That’s the question we’ve all been wondering, so it’s good to get an answer from an authoritative source like AIG. Here’s more:

It is probable that at least some people who claim to have been abducted by aliens simply have concocted their stories. Possible motives for such fabrications vary, but could include profit or desire to be important.

Egad — they’re charlatans! That’s outrageous! Moving along:

Other stories of alien abduction may have been the result of vivid dreams. Some people may truly believe that they have been abducted by aliens but merely suffered some sort of delusion.

Faulkner then describes a number of once-popular proponents of UFOs, such as George Adamski, Antônio Vilas-Boas, and the case of Barney and Betty Hill. Then he says:

These three examples run the gambit from someone who almost certainly lied to individuals who appeared to be sincere in their beliefs about what happened to them, albeit leaving doubts as to the reality of their claims. Still, these explanations may not be sufficient to explain all claims of alien abductions. If so, would that mean that at least a few alien abduction stories are genuine, thus proving that ETs exist? No, for there remains at least one other possibility.

What would that be? Faulkner explains that many of those who report UFO encounters are deeply spiritual people, and he says:

These facts are extremely pertinent. If those who report alien abductions are sincere and truthful in relaying experiences that they firmly believe occurred, then we are left with the conclusion that there is a spiritual component, and that this spirituality is contrary to the Bible.

Aha — one set of spiritual visions is contrary to another. How can we decide what to believe? We’re told:

This is just one front in a spiritual war to divert people away from the truth of Scripture. We have already seen that the implication of the Bible is that Adam’s race is the only race of sentient, physical creatures in the universe. That is, there are no ETs to fly spaceships to Earth.

Okay, we’re all clear on that. But what about the UFO tales? Faulkner’s article ends with the final explanation:

But if one believes in evolution, one must accept the likelihood that life, even intelligent life, has evolved many times on other worlds. Thus, if life exists elsewhere, then that would argue against the Bible and hence the God of the Bible. So, a very effective tool in undermining the authority of the Bible and the gospel would be to convince as many people as possible that life exists elsewhere. What better way is there to do that than with flying saucers and “alien” visitations?

Suddenly, it’s all so very clear! Those wild tales of UFOs, alien encounters, and — gasp! — probes, are nothing but Darwinist lies! Now you know The Truth.

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27 responses to “Answers in Genesis — Alien Probes and Darwin

  1. I thought when Moses came down from the burning bush thing he also had a copy of Pocket Guide to UFOs & ETs as well, a concise, condensed version of the bible’s book of ET.

  2. “…man’s sin has tainted the entire universe.”

    Which wasn’t really very difficult, since the dome doesn’t look all that big.

  3. Ceteris Paribus

    Faulkner asks: “What better way is there to [undermine the Bible] than with flying saucers and “alien” visitations?”

    Apparently Faulkner’s education at Bob Jones has not kept up with the technology. Any up to date Creationist would know that modern science has already replaced his ancient hardware with autonomously piloted drones, and cloud-based “virtual” alien visitations.

  4. I’m surprised that there wasn’t the explanation that UFOs are products of Satan.
    Or perhaps signs of approaching Armageddon.
    Surely there must be some instruction about this from Jack Chick.

  5. Ken Ham:
    “Would this be just? Could sentient beings on other planets be fallen creatures? If so, and since these beings are not descendants of Adam, what would be God’s plan of redemption for them? The Bible indicates that man was made in God’s image (Genesis 1:26) and is the center of God’s attention (Hebrews 2:7), leaving no room for other beings. It is clear from these and other considerations that there are no “aliens” living on other planets.”

    As Spock would say, “That is not logical, Mr. Ham.” If your God could make human beings in His image on this planet, what’s to say He didn’t make human beings in His image on billions of planets throughout the entire universe? Your Bible doesn’t say He didn’t.

  6. Just thought of something — if Ham’s God is transcendental and nonmaterial, how then can we be made in His image?

  7. By the way, today is 23 October. According to the Ussher chronology, the first day of creation began on the night preceding Sunday, 23 October 4004 BC. The universe is 6019 years old today, more or less.

  8. @SC-
    There was no year between 1 BC and AD 1, therefore from 4004 BC to AD 2015 there were only 6018 years.

  9. @Tom S “I’m surprised that there wasn’t the explanation that UFOs are products of Satan.”

    I took this quote:

    “…then we are left with the conclusion that there is a spiritual component, and that this spirituality is contrary to the Bible.”

    as possibly meaning that it might be actual spirits, as opposed to just a different brand of human spirituality. A lot of fundies certainly do think that, even if that’s not what the Loon du Jour was saying.

  10. Not read but THIS YEC is having a go at AiG over aliens and the like:
    https://siriusknotts.wordpress.com/

  11. Rikki_Tikki_Taalik

    It is probable that at least some people who claim to have been abducted by aliens interaction with a supernatural deity simply have concocted their stories. Possible motives for such fabrications vary, but could include profit or desire to be important.

    Other stories of alien abduction supernatural visitation may have been the result of vivid dreams. Some people may truly believe that they have been abducted by aliens interacted with the supernatural but merely suffered some sort of delusion.

    I’d continue with the “third possibility” offered but there is no way to distinguish it from the second. In the end it merely asserts that “if it’s real then it’s out to get us and our similar (evidence free) nonsense.”

  12. Rikki_Tikki_Taalik

    *sigh* cleanup on paragraph two Curm ?

    [*Voice from above*] As you wish.

  13. Wait…wasn’t Noah “probed” in Genesis 9:20-25?

  14. On the topic of problems faced by Noah, I have been silently censored TWICE by YEC ideologues who deny man-caused climate change this evening. My sin? Mentioning Hurricane Patricia:
    http://johnhartnett.org/2015/10/22/global-cooling-alarmists-40-years-ago/comment-page-1/#comment-5967
    https://gracesalt.wordpress.com/2015/10/15/do-creationists-believe-in-climate-change/

    Strongest hurricane ever scientifically studied or monitored in the eastern Pacific (western hemisphere east of the dateline). I guess this storm is somehow unbiblical because it suggests man-caused climate change is warming the eastern Pacific and making El Nino events worse and hurricanes stronger and prone to develop ‘explosively’.

    Can’t have that. Interrupts the narrative that the scientists know nothing and are being unbiblical.

    Look forward to the thoughts of Ken Ham on the topic of Patricia.

    Or then again perhaps the NCSE.

  15. The Bible is such a gargantuan collection of conflicting values that anyone can prove anything from it.

    Robert Heinlein, The Number of the Beast

    And this AIG essay serves to illustrate the difference between apologetics and science.

  16. Thus, if life exists elsewhere, then that would argue against the Bible and hence the God of the Bible.

    So that’s it, then. As soon as life is discovered elsewhere, it is over for the bible. Good to know. I give it 5 to 10 years, then Ken will have to close his tourist attractions and retire.

  17. That is, on alien abductions, ask them their own question: “Were you there?” How come you won’t accept eyewitness reports in that case, yet insist that they are the only acceptable evidence in the case of the history of life?

  18. @Coyote:
    The observation of Heinlein reminds me of the observation of John Eck to Martiin Luther at the Diet of Worms (this is taken from the Wikipedia article on the Diet of Worms):

    ‘ Martin,’ said he, ‘ there is no one of the heresies which have torn the bosom of the church, which has not derived its origin from the various interpretation of the Scripture. The Bible itself is the arsenal whence each innovator has drawn his deceptive arguments.

    Obviously, this is something which will not be settled soon.

    @Ed:
    Before 1492, there were those who were convinced that, although the Earth was a sphere, it would be impossible for there were humans living in the parts of the Earth which had not been visited by Christians. There was an impossible barrier of heat in equitorial regions which prevented humans to have crossed over from Noah’s landfall. And there was no way that the news of Redemption could have be heard. Therefore, there was a crisis when the New World was found to be inhabited.

  19. He was educated (?) at Bob Jones, the Universty whose textbooks teach that

    “Satan wants people to believe in evolution. This is probably the main reason that evolution is so popular. Evolution relies on processes that cannot be observed, therefore it isn’t a scientific theory but depends on faith. The theory of biological evolution is not true because it contradicts the Bible. Many people believe in the evolutionary theory because they feel it eliminates God and lets them do what they want. Evolutionists are constantly finding evidence that runs counter to their claims, but discard it because of bias. The Flood is a better explanation of the fossil record than evolution. Missing links and common ancestors are absent from the fossil record because these organisms never existed. Sedimentary rock strata are the result of the Flood. Carbon-14 is formed in the upper atmosphere, but settles in the lower due to its increased density. Most dating techniques indicate that the earth is young, not millions of years old. Radiometric dating involves so much guesswork that it is unreliable. Earth Day is the Festival of a false god; but a Christian must be confident that the God who made the world is able to maintain it.”

    Yet you and your followers think differently; truly you are “without excuse”.

    Details at https://paulbraterman.wordpress.com/2013/12/04/credit-where-none-is-due-creationist-colleges-and-courses/

  20. But if one believes in evolution, one must accept the likelihood that life, even intelligent life, has evolved many times on other worlds. Thus, if life exists elsewhere, then that would argue against the Bible and hence the God of the Bible. So, a very effective tool in undermining the authority of the Bible and the gospel would be to convince as many people as possible that life exists elsewhere. What better way is there to do that than with flying saucers and “alien” visitations?

    Ah, where to begin?
    The “likelihood” that life has evolved on other worlds depends on multiple factors. It could be that those factors interact in such a way that we are, indeed, alone, whether evolution happened or not.

    As for flying saucers and “alien” visitations, here Mr. Faulkner erects a straw man. Few evolutionary scientists, even among those who are sure intelligent extraterrestrial life exists, support the idea that aliens are coming here; they cite the immense problems involved in interstellar travel in rejecting that possibility. As for intelligent life within this solar system, the possibility of such life has been thoroughly knocked down. Sometimes I’m not sure it exists on Earth.

    If those who report alien abductions are sincere and truthful in relaying experiences that they firmly believe occurred, then we are left with the conclusion that there is a spiritual component, and that this spirituality is contrary to the Bible.

    Actually, some UFO writers, such as “contactee” Orfeo Angelucci, incorporated elements of Christian fundamentalism into their claims. (Angelucci added in a dash of reincarnation.) The majority of UFO observers (and there are tens of millions) have simply seen something unexplained, usually only once in their lives, and don’t attach spiritual significance to it at all.

    I wish to God (so to speak) that we’d hear, now and again, from creationists who actually know what they’re talking about. I wish I could find a leprechaun’s pot of gold, too, but I’m not expecting that either.

  21. @Eric Lipps:
    who asks, where to begin?

    I suggest that one place to begin is to point out that citing the Bible as an authority on extra-terrestrial life is a gross anachronism, if not just plain making things up.

    The Bible, following the culture of the Ancient Near East, does not recognize heavenly bodies as providing anything like terrestrial environments, and therefore does not contemplate the possibility of material life elsewhere.

    The Bible. We should wish to hear from creationists who actually know what they’re talking about the Bible.

  22. I like it how Faulkner observes that most alien abductees are probably delusional or fraudulent… and then promotes a book where people have regular contacts with angels as literally, factually true.

    I like it how he carefully tries to avoid referring to Satan by his name.

    But perhaps most of all, I like it how he reproaches people for concocting a “human-centered religious message” while he himself believes that an empty universe with a septillion stars has been created just for us.

  23. @TomS: “creationists who actually know what they’re talking about”
    You could as well wish for dry water.

  24. Danny boy says that “Romans 8 makes it clear that man’s sin has tainted the entire universe”. Oh Danny boy, is that 1) the entire universe known to the bronze age sheep herders who wrote the babble; or 2) the universe as we know it is today. If 2, that means at the present time only those living in a sphere 12,036 light years in diameter, centered on the alleged garden of Eden, is likely to be contaminated. What with the rate of expansion of the universe and all, there are probably a few alien creatures who will remain blissfully unaware of your mythology for a long time.

  25. Without any explanation for the two day delay whatsoever Hartnett has finally published my comment about Hurricane Patricia (see post above). I suspect this has to do with me protesting vociferously on the web. Perhaps also that we now know that the storm miraculously has taken almost no human lives, maybe literally none – thus it does not seem like the ‘worst’ in the western hemisphere any more.

    I’ve submitted the following attempted response to his complacent response (he is a physicist believe it or not):
    “In terms of lowest central pressure I believe it was (briefly) the third most intense hurricane on record (the ‘worst’ was Typhoon Tip in 1979; Typhoon Haiyan in 2013 was also one of the worst, notably in terms of wind speeds). Fortunately Patricia hit a sparsely populated area of Mexico.

    Your ‘do nothing about emissions’ suggestion is I suspect religiously (not biblically though) motivated denial of the international scientific consensus. Correlation does not prove causation but it strongly suggests it.”

  26. I presume you refer to Genesis. Not Bronze Age; Iron Age on internal evidence (the Moses myth is placed in the Bronze Age but I’m sure you don’t believe it). Not sheep herders, but scribes and scholars doing their best. And AFAIK, no one doubts that Paul, a highly literate man, wrote Romans, much as I wish he hadn’t.

  27. Techreseller

    Do you really believe that if we discover life else where in the solar system, galaxy or universe, it will matter one whit to the likes of Hambo? They will pivot as necessary and keep on preaching away. Seventh Day Adventists are still going strong over 150 years past the predicted demise of the world. No facts or evidence even slows these people down.