Creationist Wisdom #630: The Student

Today’s letter-to-the-editor appears in The Gazette of Colorado Springs, Colorado. It’s titled Evolution in our schools; fraught with bad decisions. It’s the first of several letters at that link. The newspaper has a comments feature but they’re not sorted, so you’ll need to figure out which ones apply to this letter.

Because the writer isn’t a politician, preacher, or other public figure, we won’t embarrass or promote him by using his full name. After Googling around, we think he’s a student at a Christian high school in Colorado Springs. His first name is Jedidiah. Excerpts from his letter will be enhanced with our Curmudgeonly commentary and some bold font for emphasis. Here we go!

For 150 years, the theory of evolution has been a hot topic, subject to much debate and disagreement.

The “debate” exists only at creationist websites, with which Jedidiah seems well acquainted, as can be seen by what he says next:

While it is difficult for anyone to determine the past based upon the evidence found in the present, it is clear that the theory of evolution has many logical and scientific flaws. Therefore, the way evolution is taught in public schools needs to be drastically changed.

Jedidiah appears to be an advocate of ol’ Hambo’s “Were you there?” method of rebutting anything that conflicts with what his religion teaches. Let’s read on:

There are hundreds of different objections that can be raised against evolution. One simple example: Something cannot come from nothing.

Yeah, Darwin blew it there. Jedidiah probably read Ray Comfort’s Nothing Created Everything. He continues:

Everything within the universe is bound by the laws of nature, and these laws do not allow the creation of matter. Matter can be destroyed and changed in form but cannot be made.

Jedidiah may want to take a look at this article in Wikipedia: Matter creation. Here’s more:

This example is so simple it barely covers one flaw within evolution. However, it does serve as an effective reminder that evolution is at best a theory not a scientific law.

[*Sigh*] Jedidiah has no idea what evolution is all about. Nor does he know that scientific theories don’t grow up to become laws. Moving along:

As it currently stands, the theory of evolution is first taught to public school students while they are in grade school. This is an age when most children struggle with telling fact from fiction.

Yes, and for some, the struggle is overwhelming. Hey — suddenly, when we least expect it, Jedidiah makes a gracious concession:

The theory of evolution is embraced by many well-educated scientists and as such should be discussed in schools.

Yes, for their sake it should at least be mentioned. We have now arrived at the end of the letter, where Jedidiah makes his bold educational proposal:

However, it needs to be taught as an unproven, flawed theory and as such should not be taught to students until they reach an appropriate age.

Jedidiah undoubtedly thinks he has reached that appropriate age, but for some reason we suspect that he’s not there yet.

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15 responses to “Creationist Wisdom #630: The Student

  1. Matter can be destroyed and changed in form but cannot be made.

    I wonder if it’s ever occurred to Jedediah that E=mc2 can equally well be expressed as m = E/c2?

    And he might also want to read a little about pair creation from virtual particles — where stuff really is created from the vacuum.

  2. Actually, it isn’t really. The idea is that these “virtual particles” become “real” particles only at the expense of energy.

    For example, a pair of virtual particles can be created right at the event horizon of a black hole, such that one falls into the hole and disappears and the other escapes. The one which escapes carries with it a tiny bit of the black hole’s energy (which was what it allowed it to become a “real” particle and to escape)–and therefore, per E=mc2, a bit of its mass. Over time, this process will cause the black hole to shrink and finally to disappear.

    Which has next to nothing to do with creationism, since creationists think everything was created only 6,000 years ago and “a new heaven and a new earth” will be created after the Second Coming–Real Soon Now–so there hasn’t been and will never be time enough for black holes to evaporate.

  3. “evolution is at best a theory not a scientific law.”
    Not only has Jed no idea what evolution is about, he has no idea what scientific laws are about either.
    A theory can consist of all kind of scientific laws. The most famous example is Classical Mechanics, which contains three Laws of Newton, a Law of Gravity, Hook’s Law ao.

  4. Do they actually understand that they confusing cosmology with biology?

  5. ”However, it needs to be taught as an unproven, flawed theory and as such should not be taught to students until they reach an appropriate age.”
    This could well be said of religion.

  6. ‘Something cannot come from nothing.’? Really? How does he know that? Was he there? Besides what is “nothing”? The only creation story that has something coming from nothing is the xtian one!!

  7. It is interesting that a theist would make the comment “As it currently stands, the theory of evolution is first taught to public school students while they are in grade school. This is an age when most children struggle with telling fact from fiction.” First, I am not entirely sure he is correct but even so he is striking a blow at religious indoctrination. Churches do not wait until children can tell fact from fiction, they start them in church nurseries learning to love them the baby Jesus. And if it weren’t for this indoctrination, religions wouldn’t be any where near as populous as they are now.

  8. Some interesting comments:

    @A: “Do they actually understand that they confusing cosmology with biology?”
    To them it’s all two peas in a pot: Big Bang, abiogenesis, evolution.

    @gsl: “This could well be said of religion.”
    No. As far as religion is a theory it’s disproven.

    @L.L: “The only creation story that has something coming from nothing is the xtian one!”
    The xtian who pulls this one off claims that god is nothing ….. as he/she also claims that every something comes from god.

  9. It is interesting for all of their devotion to a literal reading of Genesis, they ignore the fact that Genesis 1 does not describe creation ex nihilo. At the beginning of God’s creation, there is already a wind blowing over the waters of the deep.

  10. I don’t recall struggling to tell the difference between fact and fiction, even in grade school.

  11. Did anyone else catch in another of the letters, this wonderful gem, which is supposed to be quoted from Ben Carson: “The Ark was built by amateurs while the Titanic was built by professionals!”

  12. @Lemmy

    I trust you’ve been following Carson’s latest sage archaeological musings.

  13. Mary L. Mand

    But we know the Titanic is real, what went wrong and where it is.

  14. Who would name their son Jedidiah? Do his friends call him Jedi?

  15. Do his friends call him Jedi?

    “Look, there goes young Master Jedi . . .”