Rev. David Rives — Evolution Is Paganism

We weren’t thinking about The Controversy between evolution and creationism this morning because there are other things in the news, but suddenly the Drool-o-tron™ aroused us with its sirens and flashing lights.

The blinking letters of its wall display said WorldNetDaily (WND). The Drool-o-tron™ had found the latest video by the brilliant and articulate leader of David Rives Ministries.

Our computer was locked onto this headline at WND: Ancient Greeks: Evolution not a new concept. The actual title of the video is “Aristotelian Evolution.” Aristotle? Wow — that looks interesting!

The rev tells his mindless fans that Darwin’s theory of evolution is a revival of Aristotle’s teaching. It’s nothing but an ancient myth — it’s Greek paganism!

Hey — wait a minute — haven’t we seen this before? [*Curmudgeon searches his archives*] Yes, we talked about that same video three years ago in WND: Rev. David Rives — Sorry, Charlie. There, we linked to one of our earliest posts, The Founders Rejected Evolution?, where, while refuting something by David Barton (from whom the rev probably got his idea), we quoted from Aristotle’s own writing to show that although he considered the idea that species develop naturally, he went on to reject that in favor of the notion that everything happens for a purpose. That’s the myth — of the Greeks, all the other ancients, and today’s creationists.

The rev is wearing one of his bible-boy suits without a necktie. He’s the cutest rev you’ve ever seen! The video is the usual 90-second presentation — and even if you saw it three years ago, it’s worth another look. Go ahead, click over to WND.

As we always do with the rev’s videos, we dedicate the comments section for your use as an Intellectual Free Fire Zone. You probably want to talk about yesterday’s creationist activity in San Bernardino. Okay, the comments are open. Go for it!

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10 responses to “Rev. David Rives — Evolution Is Paganism

  1. michaelfugate

    If you want to read some comic nonsense from the British press, check out climate-denier Christopher Booker on Intelligent Design…..

    On the side of the Darwinians were the BBC’s science correspondent, the Today presenter and Sir David Attenborough, all of whom went out of their way to ignore the fact that the proponents of “intelligent design” are scientists [snort!], some very eminent [double snort!], such as Professor Dean Kenyon who, 30 years ago, was the father of the “chemical evolution” theory for the origins of life [triple snort!].
    Despite the best efforts of Dr Steven Meyer, an American scientist [since when] who was the lone voice arguing for “intelligent design”, the BBC trio tried to present it as no more than a cause for religious nutters, an “upgrade” of creationism. Sir David Attenborough clearly had not the slightest idea of what the “intelligent design” thesis is about [religion!].

    So much to chuckle over in just two paragraphs.

  2. @ michaelfugate: Booker has form. He is possibly the last person on the planet who does not accept that there is a health hazard in passive smoking.

    The Telegraph ceased to be a reputable paper when the Barclary brothers took ownership.

  3. michaelfugate

    Which makes my local paper even worse; it wrote an editorial (anonymous of course) based on Booker’s recent climate denial op ed in the Telegraph without bothering to check anything.

  4. “an “upgrade” of creationism.”
    That quote is comedy gold, MF. I would rather say IDiocy is a downgrade of other forms of creationism, because it doesn’t use Holy Scripture as “evidence”.

  5. michaelfugate

    @mnbo, what’s funny is that the Bible is not authority enough for the religious nutters; they want the authority of science too. They can’t help themselves.

  6. “You probably want to talk about yesterday’s creationist activity in San Bernardino.”

    No, not really. It’s hard to think of any way to limit these senseless mass shootings since the guns are already out there by the millions and millions, and the Second Amendment will not be changed. Unless…

    Unless a courageous politician emphasizes “the well-regulated militia” part of the 2nd Amendment, and limits access to purchase ammunition (and primers) to those licensed by their state’s militia. US citizens with clean records and no limiting mental health issues would be eligible for such a license. Most members of the NRA should qualify. Not a perfect control, but one that could help in limiting the carnage.

    While we are at it, we should also make it much harder to make pipe bombs, pressure-cooker bombs, and the like by limiting access to gunpowder, fireworks, smokeless powder, ammonium nitrate, and other compounds that can so easily be made into IEDs. I’m surprised that hasn’t been done already.

  7. Our esteemed Rev. made a funny, funny (he thinks anyway) song mocking evolution. It is hilarious, but not in the way he intends!

  8. @Reflectory
    I often think that the real motivation of creationism is that it is icky to think that we are related to other primates. That being particularly repulsive precisely because it is so obvious.
    We, each of us, do start out as a glob of goo. (And I will not get drawn into the obvious consequences of that!)

  9. @Reflectory: Well, Rives is certainly entertaining! So, he takes exception to the notion that “we started as a glob of goo”? According to Genesis 2:7, “And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground…”

    “Glob of goo”, “pile of dust” — not much difference except water. Add water to dust, you get clay, which could be described as a glob of goo.

    Ah, well. Rives is having a lot of fun selling mail-order DVDs out of his abandoned gas station in Tennessee. Strange that all these fundamentalist-types are so fixated on evolution, rather than teaching love for our fellow man. Guess they know what sells.

  10. @TomS

    I agree that the “EWWWW! APES!” is a big factor in maintaining creationist beliefs. Most people’s experience of “monkeys” is a cliche Hollywood trope. The slightest actual knowledge of apes tends to erode the barrier.


    I thought of the same comparison as soon as Rives said it too. Come on! We can’t ask the genius Rev. to be self-critical. That’s not what Jesus would sell.