Ken Ham Says Bill Nye Is Irrational

We recently posted Bill Nye & Ken Ham — Together Again, describing how Bill Nye showed up a day after the grand opening of Ark Encounter and mistakenly found himself in yet another debate with Ken Ham (ol’ Hambo).

That was followed by WorldNetDaily: The Second Ham-Nye ‘Debate’, where we told you how WorldNetDaily (WND) eagerly quoted Hambo about the event, and reported that he made Nye look like a fool.

Now we have a report of the event from ol’ Hambo himself: Bill Nye and Bananas, in which he tells his drooling fans how he triumphed over Nye yet again.

This is another example of what we’ve been saying for a long time: Debating Creationists is Dumber Than Creationism, and we’re about to see, once more, how foolish it is for anyone to debate — or even appear — in the same forum with a creationist. Here are some excerpts from Hambo’s account of the event, with bold font added by us:

After his Ark tour, Bill made many public statements about his visit. He reportedly said that the Ark was “much more troubling or disturbing than I thought it would be.” NBC News reported, “Nye said the exhibit encourages visitors to trust faith over science and thereby undercuts their ability to engage in critical thinking.”

But here’s what is really disturbing and troubling. Nye wants to convince all children to believe that they are just animals who arose by natural processes — and that there’s no God! The implications of this belief on the question of the meaning and purpose of life are beyond serious!

See? Debates don’t matter. Hambo always gets the last word. Then he says:

Nye also claims that the exhibits inside the Ark encourage visitors to “trust faith over science.” Actually, our exhibits show quite conclusively that observational science in the fields of geology, genetics, and anthropology confirm biblical history concerning man, animals, and the Flood of Noah’s day.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA! Science is on Hambo’s side. Let’s read on:

In reality, it’s Bill Nye who has the blind faith to believe that somehow life arose by natural processes. And his evidence? That DNA, including its information and language system, arising by natural processes, came about to the fact that “we’re here.” And Nye, who claims creationists are undercutting people’s “ability to engage in critical thinking,” wants to stop all children from being able to think critically about science. Instead, we are just to accept his word and his religion that life arose by natural processes. And Nye calls this “science!”

Nye is crazed by his faith. You have Hambo’s word for it. He continues:

And then Bill Nye has the gall to speak negatively about the parents of a girl who challenged him, saying, “The parents were feeding her word for word.” You see, Bill Nye doesn’t want parents to be allowed to teach their children about God. He wants to brainwash kids, to indoctrinate them in his naturalistic (atheistic) religion of meaninglessness and hopelessness.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA! Nye wants to “indoctrinate” kids. Hambo would never expose kids to indoctrination!

Oh — this is where the “bananas” in Hambo’s title comes from:

Watch the following video segment, where the following conversation happened:

[Hambo’s quote from the video, with brackets (after these) supplied by Hambo:] Ken Ham [KH]: So we’re related to a banana?

Bill Nye [BN]: Yes. . . . What makes you think we’re not related to bananas?

KH: Can you testify to how information [in DNA that is the building block for life] arose by natural processes?

BN: Here we are.

Not a very memorable exchange. Here’s more:

NBC News also quoted Bill Nye as saying the following: “On the third deck [of the ark], every single science exhibit is absolutely wrong. . . . Not just misleading, but wrong.”

Once again, Hambo gets the final word:

This quote just goes to illustrate how irrational Nye can be when he makes many of his statements. Yes, Ark exhibits do have signs on them offering interpretations based on a biblical worldview, and understandably Bill Nye disagrees with them. … . Mr. Nye can disagree with our biblical worldview, but to claim “every single science exhibit is absolutely wrong” is just plain silly.

Okay, that’s enough. Never imagine that merely because reality and reason are on your side, you can ever change the mind of a creationist.

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8 responses to “Ken Ham Says Bill Nye Is Irrational

  1. The ENTIRE ARK concept is just plain WRONG!!!!

  2. The thing in Kentucky demonstrates that the concept of a big wooden sea-worthy vessel which accommodates large numbers of animals is unworkable.
    And that design is not enough to bypass the limits of matter.

  3. Look who’s talking about being irrational!

  4. Eric Lipps

    But here’s what is really disturbing and troubling. Nye wants to convince all children to believe that they are just animals who arose by natural processes — and that there’s no God! The implications of this belief on the question of the meaning and purpose of life are beyond serious!

    But Nye doesn’t say people are just animals; very obviously, we have transcended “mere” animal status due to our self-awareness and intelligence. God, however, isn’t necessary for that.

    Come to that, as far as I’m aware Nye doesn’t say there’s no God, either, only that supernatural causation isn’t required to explain the natural world. But a few centuries ago, that would have gotten him tortured to death, and one can’t help suspecting creationists wish it still could.

    And then Bill Nye has the gall to speak negatively about the parents of a girl who challenged him, saying, “The parents were feeding her word for word.” You see, Bill Nye doesn’t want parents to be allowed to teach their children about God. He wants to brainwash kids, to indoctrinate them in his naturalistic (atheistic) religion of meaninglessness and hopelessness.

    But who says atheists “preach” a “religion of meaninglessness and hopelessness”? Evidently the Hamster doesn’t believe human beings are capable of investing existence with meaning and hope on their own, but where’s his proof?

  5. LA> Evolutionists themselves KNOW that it is as a “religiou” that most evolutionists accept Darwin’s ideas. Those who try to dodge what their own experts have stated can be regarded only at “TWADD;E” talkers!

  6. What is interesting to me is that humans all over the world, of different religions or no religion, can lead similarly meaningful lives, or can waste their lives in similar ways. The specific religion doesn’t seem to matter one way or another as far as I can tell. Peoples are peoples.

    Ham found his meaning in life by lying for Jesus, and making a good living while doing it. I’m sure he’s proud of it.

  7. Dave Luckett

    I’m sure he is, Ed. I’m in fact quite sure that the principal driving motivation of Ham’s life and work is pride. He split from his original sect, builds monuments to himself, soaks up the reverence of acolytes, delivers himself of diktats, cannot ever be wrong, rearranges reality, and lives in a little bubble of self-congratulation solely to assuage the demands of a pride swollen to monstrous proportions.

    But pride comes to a fall, and in Ham’s monument to himself, the structure he has built, the fall is coming. There is simply no way that it will pull enough visitors to pay for itself. Sure, Ham has sequestered his own money from it, and when it all falls in the toilet, he’ll have severed all links, because he’ll have seen it coming, and he’ll be far far away when it happens. Con-men do that, and Ham’s a con-man, notwithstanding the fact that he has come to believe the scam himself, at least in one portion of his fractured mind.

    That won’t save him, though. His ever-loving disciples, the county, and the State, will be left holding the bag, and they won’t care for it one bit. There probably won’t be a legal way for it to cost Ham his shirt, but he’ll stink forever after.

    Somehow or other, he will turn this into another source of pride. He will become the saintly, persecuted, martyred holy man, in the only part of reality that has any influence over him – the theater of his own mind.

    In that, he will be in interesting company. Jim Bakker is still spruiking his form of snake oil on the internet. Swaggert still operates, hookers and all. Peter Popoff still recycles crutches and wheelchairs, and Rekers still preaches anti-gay sermons and hires rent boys. When Ham’s Folly bites it, Ham will act surprised for a while, but the Lord will call him to other witness. Sure as shooting.

  8. Frankly I only would start worrying if Ol’ Hambo called me rational. But yeah, his reaction shows that Nye’s public visit was a mistake and very possibly such a big one that in the end it will annihilate the benefits from the debate.