Hambo Says Bacteria Don’t Evolve

Creationists are always claiming that there’s no evidence for evolution — and as they do so, they are totally oblivious to the lack of evidence for creationism. One of their claims is that no one has ever seen one species evolve into another. Well, duh! — that can take thousands of generations for a large, long-lived, slow-breeding species. When changes are demonstrated with rapidly-breeding species like bacteria or fruit flies, they always respond that they’re still bacteria — or fruit flies, or whatever.

Creationists also claim that the fossil record isn’t sufficient to demonstrate anything; and besides, it’s all fraud, like Piltdown Man. They also waive away the evidence of common ancestry shown by DNA — even though DNA evidence good enough to force a father to pay child support. They’re always screaming that no one has literally seen a monkey evolve into a man. Well, duh! Of course we haven’t seen that happen. We don’t live long enough.

Written history goes back only 5,000 years or so. That’s about 250 human generations, at 20 years per generation, and we haven’t evolved at all in that time. However, E. coli can reproduce 2 or 3 times per hour. That’s at least 50 generations per day. Experiments extending over 50,000 E. coli generations that demonstrate genetic changes have been conducted — see E. coli long-term evolution experiment.

That many human generations would require a million years. In all that time, some human groups have developed lactose tolerance, blond hair and lighter skin, but not much else. We’re all still human. For a long-lived species like ours, evolution requires time. Lots of time. That’s why creationists cling to the fiction that Earth is only 6,000 years old.

We’re all familiar with the phenomenon of antibiotic resistance, the ability of microbes to resist the effects of medication previously used to treat them. That sort of thing really bothers creationists. Even though they can’t deny that it happens, they deny that it’s evolution.

This tradition of reality-denial is demonstrated today by Ken Ham (ol’ Hambo), the ayatollah of Appalachia, the world’s holiest man who knows more about religion and science than everyone else. Hambo’s article is Did Scientists Watch Bacteria Evolve? Here are some excerpts, with bold font added by us for emphasis:

Antibiotic resistance in bacteria is one of the biggest problems facing modern medicine, and it’s also often lauded as evidence for evolution. Bacteria have the ability to survive when introduced to an antibiotic that would normally kill them. Recently a popular video claimed that scientists were able to watch evolution happen in just 11 days as bacteria “evolved” resistance. But did they really see molecules-to-man evolution in action?

BWAHAHAHAHAHA! In those 11 days of bacterial evolution, did the scientists see “molecules-to-man evolution”? Probably not. Then he says:

Well, we’ve written about antibiotic resistance many times, and this new study offers no new support for evolution.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA! Why not? Hambo explains:

Evolution involves the addition of brand-new genetic information to create novel features that allow one kind of organism to evolve into a completely different kind of organism. These drug-resistant bacteria didn’t get any new genetic information of this type — there is no known process that can add this new information.

[*Begin Drool Mode*] Ooooooooooooh! [*End Drool Mode*] See Phlogiston, Vitalism, and Information. The first time we saw Hambo embrace that Discoveroid doctrine we wrote Ken Ham: Natural Selection Is Not Evolution. Hambo tells us why the experiment didn’t produce new “information” (i.e., magic pixie dust):

According to the video, mutations caused the bacteria to become drug-resistant. But mutations don’t add the information required for molecules-to-man evolution! They actually do the opposite and cause a decrease (or alteration) in information. The bacteria may be more fit to survive in the artificial environment of the petri dish filled with antibiotics, but, released into their natural environment, they will likely diminish and die out because they are actually less fit than the other bacteria. It’s not evolution — it’s bacteria producing more bacteria.

Yeah, okay. He continues:

What this study does teach us is the incredible speed at which bacteria can become resistant to antibiotics. It really is a neat video, and, stripped of its evolutionary assumptions, is great observational science that will hopefully help scientists as they struggle to deal with superbugs, a sad reality in our sin-cursed world.

Whatever it was, it wasn’t evolution! Why? Because evolution doesn’t happen! One last excerpt:

Actually, if scientists gave up their evolutionary paradigm, they would be better researchers, and I predict they would make some startling scientific and medical advances.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA! We’re waiting for Hambo’s collection of creation scientists to produce some of those startling advances. What’s holding them back?

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12 responses to “Hambo Says Bacteria Don’t Evolve

  1. According to the video, mutations caused the bacteria to become drug-resistant. But mutations don’t add the information required for molecules-to-man evolution! They actually do the opposite and cause a decrease (or alteration) in information. The bacteria may be more fit to survive in the artificial environment of the petri dish filled with antibiotics, but, released into their natural environment, they will likely diminish and die out because they are actually less fit than the other bacteria. It’s not evolution — it’s bacteria producing more bacteria.

    *Snicker* Evidently the Hamster hasn’t been reading all the articles which have been coming out about the emergence of ever more drug-resistant bacteria in the “natural environment” which are already causing problems for hospitals needing to treat, for instance, staph infections, and which doctors warn may lead to an era in which disease bacteria are immune to allknown antibiotics. (I guess those beady little rodent eyes make such reading too difficult.)

    So much for antibiotic-resistant bacteria being “less fit.” As usual, Ham doesn’t have a clue. And also as usual, that doesn’t stop him.

  2. There’s much talk of present day intellectual devolution. I won’t believe it until Hambo turns into a bacterium.

  3. Creationists also claim that the fossil record isn’t sufficient to demonstrate anything; and besides, it’s all fraud, like Piltdown Man.

    But they all went gaga over Piltdown Man, their giant from the bible come true, until it was divulged that it was a fake.

  4. Mike Elzinga

    One of Ham’s staff (staph?) members, Georgia Purdom thinks that bacteria became “bad” after the Fall.

    And just why does Ham think that “brand-new genetic information” is required. Different permutations of already existing molecular arrangements can “solve” all sorts of “problems.”

    And, by the way, nothing would have happened in that mega petri dish if the temperature were lowered to about zero degrees Celsius. Soft matter evolves; it has to.

  5. “It’s not evolution — it’s bacteria producing more bacteria.”

    In other words, a chicken didn’t give birth to a monkey, therefore evolution is false.

  6. There are three domains of life, the Eukaryotes (humans, all other animals, plants, fungi, and a whole lot of others), Bacteria (also called Eubacteria, to distinguish them from the next), and Archaea. To dismiss an example of evolution with “they are still bacteria” is as if one were to observe that giraffes and sponges are both animals – or rather that animals and amoebas are still eukaryotes.
    That birds are just dinosaurs, or that mammals are just a minor variation on vertebrates … let alone that humans are primates …

  7. According to the video, mutations caused the bacteria to become drug-resistant. But mutations don’t add the information required for molecules-to-man evolution! They actually do the opposite and cause a decrease (or alteration) in information.

    Mutations in bacteria don’t have to add the information for “molecules-to-man evolution” in order to become drug-resistant. Duh!

    All they have to do is add the information for drug-resistant evolution, and this is exactly what they do.

    And throwing in the notion of a “fall” is ridiculous–that has absolutely nothing to do with science. It is strictly a religious belief that has been repeatedly disproved by science.

    And, as I have noted before, the “fall” and original sin are about the most disgusting and evil ideas ever cooked up by our shaman class. Ayn Rand got it right when she wrote:

    http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/original_sin.html

  8. Charles Deetz ;)

    The bacteria may be more fit to survive in the artificial environment of the petri dish filled with antibiotics, but, released into their natural environment, they will likely diminish and die out because they are actually less fit than the other bacteria.

    Huh, what? Is this science, is it fact, is it assumption? Seems like it is just hand-waving to solve inconvenient truths for the creationist.

  9. In the Hambo world his converts don’t know [edited out] from Shinola nor do they.

    We’re talking about the most ignorant of the ignorant. Total B Ark people.

    Let Hambo yammer and the rest of us move on and drop these people. They aren’t worth dealing with.

  10. SC:
    “We’re waiting for Hambo’s collection of creation scientists to produce some of those startling advances. What’s holding them back?”

    What’s holding them back? The belief that superbugs are created by God as punishment for a “sin-cursed world,” that’s what. They figure that if God wants to punish us, He’s going to do it no matter what kind of “startling advances” they come up with, so what’s the use?

    Just another example of how Ham’s medieval thinking will put us back to medieval times.

  11. Yeah, I know now it’s spelled “medieval”.

    [*Voice from above*] All is well.

  12. Ham is lying about the Lenski experiment. I already posted this elswhere but it’s more relevant here.