Creationist Wisdom #730: Plato, DNA, & the Bible

Today’s letter-to-the-editor appears in the Idaho Statesman of Boise, Idaho. It’s titled Matthews letter: End of democracy, and the newspaper has a comments section.

Unless the letter-writer is a politician, preacher, or other public figure, we won’t embarrass or promote him by using his full name, but today we’ve got a preacher — at least we think we do. Because the newspaper used the writer’s name in the title of his letter, without otherwise describing him, we suspect it’s Mark Matthews, a pastor of the Cole Community Church in Boise. We’ll give you a few excerpts from rev’s letter, enhanced with our Curmudgeonly commentary, and some bold font for emphasis. Okay, here we go:

The father of democracy, Plato, said, “The end of democracy is anarchy.” He recognized man’s natural tendency for moral decay and the temptation for political leaders to compromise common sense morality for destructive fleshly pleasures.

Plato is the father of democracy? Really? See Plato’s rejection of Athenian democracy. Besides, the bible doesn’t advocate democracy — it’s all about theocratic monarchy, “on Earth as it is in Heaven.” The rev is off to a great start! Then he tells us:

George Washington said, “The pillars of a free society are grounded in religion (biblical Christianity). Tear down the pillars and the nation will crumble.”

George Washington said that? We can’t find the rev’s quote anywhere. Washington, like many of the Founders, said the proper things in public, but he was probably a deist — see Religious views of George Washington. After that, the rev describes the horrible condition of today’s society:

Today, those American pillars are barely noticeable. What happened? Out of control greed, excesses and glorification of sexual immorality, drug addiction, devaluation of marriage and growing disrespect for law and order verify the wisdom of Plato and Washington.

Verily, sin is out of control! The rev issues a warning:

Americans have trashed the only source of sanity that keeps the pillars in place: the Holy Bible. The immoral majority have decided to do what is right in their own eyes. There is a price to pay.

Yes, dear reader — you have abandoned the only source of sanity, and will pay the price. Let’s read on:

However you respond to this letter, do not take time to examine how the discovery of DNA totally dismantled Darwin’s myth of evolution.

Huh? What? BWAHAHAHAHAHA! And now we come to the end:

Without question, just accept what social media expects you to believe. Don’t take the time to read and reflect upon the clear teaching of God’s word (the Bible). What you read might change your life and help to strengthen the pillars.

Heed the rev’s words of wisdom, dear reader. Change your ways before it’s too late!

Copyright © 2016. The Sensuous Curmudgeon. All rights reserved.

add to del.icio.usAdd to Blinkslistadd to furlDigg itadd to ma.gnoliaStumble It!add to simpyseed the vineTailRankpost to facebook

. AddThis Social Bookmark Button . Permalink for this article

14 responses to “Creationist Wisdom #730: Plato, DNA, & the Bible

  1. I found this partial citation:
    “Religion and morality are the essential pillars of civil society.”
    George Washington: Writings, March 3, 1797

  2. Eddie Janssen

    I don’t think the rev has read Plato’s Politeia. And if he has read it and still came to the conclusion that Plato is the father of democracy his reading skills leave much to be desired.

  3. michaelfugate

    This is one of the most common screed techniques around. 1) Claim things are bad now. 2) Claim therefore things must have been better in the past. (Notice that 2 doesn’t necessarily follow from 1; things were different in the past, but need not better. 3) Claim that the reason things were better was Christianity.

    Let’s look at Mark’s concerns and see if they existed in the past. Greed, check. Sex, check. Drug addiction, check. All there at the time of Plato and George Washington. It is as if Christianity has no influence on morality at all.

    As expected, Mark is an older, straight, white male. He worships a past that privileged him for things he had no control over. As Jim Hightower once quipped about George Bush, “He was born on third base and thinks he hit a triple.”

  4. @DavidK
    Is that source reliable?

  5. Sorry rev but you are full of BS!!! All your complaints are CAUSED by religion!!! Example drug addiction…because religion tries to force others into their mold most drugs are illegal…THAT’S THE PROBLEM!!! In places where this has been changed (Portugal) drug addition is way down and the returns to drugs is almost non existent!!
    When was the last time you left your house with the AK47 to your solder looking for all those criminals trying to harm you????

  6. It is well known that Plato hated the Ancient Greek version of democracy because it killed Socrates.
    Of course Matthew Marks has something better than facts: he has faith.

  7. Dunno. Did a search on your initial comment and got that page.

  8. Whoops, sorry, bible page. Not reliable.

  9. @Eddie Janssen: Not only has the dear reverend not read Plato, he apparently hasn’t read much in the bible about the moral examples of his favorite favorite sky fairy. Or perhaps, as you point out also, his reading skills are close to none.

  10. I can’t find the entire quote in an easily copyable fashion, however that’s one clause taken out of a much larger quote in which he talks about Protestant, Catholic, Jewish and Muslim leaders and how much he likes seeing them all working together in the U.S.

    So, did he say it? Yes, but in a context that clearly isn’t a reference solely to Christianity, and well within our understanding of Washington’s deism.

  11. Found a large portion of the quote:
    Believing, as I do, that Religion and Morality are the essential pillars of civil society, I view, with unspeakable pleasure, that harmony and Brotherly Love which characterizes the clergy of different denominations—as well in this as in other parts of the United States; exhibiting to the world a new and interesting spectacle, at once the pride of our Country and the surest basis of universal Harmony.

  12. However you respond to this letter, do not take time to examine how the discovery of DNA totally dismantled Darwin’s myth of evolution.

    What can one say I reply but ***WTF!?***

  13. Since 83% of US folks identify as Christians, it’s amazing that those 17% cause all of the problems.