Presidential Election Free Fire Zone

In the US, tomorrow is election day. In order to vote, we will be emerging from the CITADEL — the fabled Curmudgeonly Institute for Tactics, Advocacy, and Defense of the Enlightenment Legacy — the secret global nerve center for monitoring events throughout the Creosphere which threaten the values of Western Civilization. That’s where your Curmudgeon is headquartered in his luxurious underground control room.

We suspect that there won’t be any news tomorrow about The Controversy between evolution and creationism, so this post may have to sustain us until the election activity has subsided and the results are known. Whoever wins, your Curmudgeon won’t gloat or rant, but we’ll understand if you feel like being more expressive.

This is an Intellectual Free Fire Zone, so you don’t have to talk about the election. We’re open for the discussion of pretty much anything — science, politics, economics, whatever — as long as it’s tasteful and interesting. Banter, babble, bicker, bluster, blubber, blather, blab, blurt, burble, boast — say what you will. But avoid flame-wars and beware of the profanity filters.

We now throw open the comments to you, dear reader. Have at it.

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23 responses to “Presidential Election Free Fire Zone

  1. OK. This Britisher sure hopes you will not vote Trump.

    If it helps, Ken Ham and Mark Looy are today on the AiG website urging Christians as follows: “We need to vote for candidates who we believe will protect our religious liberties (or stop their erosion)…” (there has been NO evidence from Ham’s recent facebook comments etc that he thinks Hillary would do that so he must be tilting towards the lying sociopath with fascist tendencies instead).

  2. I’m thrilled it will be all over soon. Then we can get back to what matters. Congressional investigations.

  3. Charles Deetz ;)

    Could one suggest that all those saying the election is rigged, are intelligent design types who see controlling interests, while those amazed at the voice of the people are evolutionists, letting thousands of small decisions make the better choice available.

  4. Ok. Well here is some Citadel trivia then. Pat Conroy, a graduate of The Citadel,recently passed away. Among other novels, he wrote “The Boo”, “Prince of Tides”. “Conrack”, “Beach Music” and “The Great Santini”.
    Of creationists, what percentage support Trump?mI’m biased. However, it is my opinion that there are very few Clinton supporters at AIG and the discovertute.

  5. The NYT is giving free access to its site from now through Wednesday. Of the articles I read today, I especially liked the Krugman one:

    It terrifies me that some polling stations are apparently, at Trump’s instigation, going to be “monitored” by militia groups, Neo-Nazis and the KKK — his core audience, in other words. According to the SPLC, there’s a pretty notorious white-supremacist group based locally, so when we go to the polls my wife and I will be taking the cellphone and a couple of extra cameras.

    Kind of shameful that, in the modern USA, we should be reduced to such measures.

  6. Incidentally, Trump Campaign advisor Alex Jones has recently delivered a pellucid piece of political analysis that we all should applaud:

    Hillary Clinton is a total and complete wanton power-tripping self-worshiping devil worshiper. Secret Service that work around her want away from her. They do not want to be near her. She acts like Linda Blair. She flops around on the ground. She spits at them. She hits them. She screams. She flips out. She trances out. She stinks. They start having nightmares. London Guardian, headline: “The FBI believes she is the Antichrist incarnate. They fear she wants to destroy the earth.”

    The FBI doesn’t talk like that, they’ve been near the entity. She is an entity. Remember I told you this a month ago, I told you it was going to come out in the WikiLeaks. Not because I even know what’s in the WikiLeaks, I know what the government knows and what the FBI and the Secret Service knows, and they’re scared. They’re scared and they should be. Because she wants to destroy the planet. She is a Satanist, committed to evil. And the ultimate evil isn’t just pouring blood on yourself and having lesbian orgies and eating women’s milk and sperm and a bunch of filth at these blood sex rituals that Podesta reportedly goes to. It’s war, it’s death, its destruction, it’s all a big, stinking ritual.

  7. I really liked the first comment on the Alex Jones screed: “This is how far Alex Jones has to go to make Hillary look worse than Trump. Think about that for a while.”

    BTW The Alex Jones show is hosted by the “Genesis Communication Network.” Despite the name GCN doesn’t say much about creationism according to Wikipedia

  8. A comic for the day:


  9. Biggest loser today will be rational conservatism, even if the Republicans win. In fact, especially if Trump wins.

    Not long ago, I would have said Hillary Clinton was the last person I would want to see as President. But that was before Trump became the GOP candidate.

    Corruption is indeed a threat to democracy, but a demagogue is a far graver one IMHO. This really should have been the election that the Republicans couldn’t lose; if they do, it won’t be because of ‘rigging’ or ‘media bias’ or ‘the free-stuff army’, it will be because they ran an appalling clown for the office instead of presenting a meaningful programme of reform for the country.

    And I’m not even that worried about the damage Trump would do in office– for most of his bat-sh*t crazy proposals will fail at the first challenge in the courts–but I am deeply concerned by the mindless, populist rancour he has enabled. There is indeed real need for reform in the USA, but that substantial body of Americans who have paid the highest price for government follies are not well served by a moronic Mussolini spouting meaningless promises to ‘Make America Great Again.’

  10. Megalonyx,

    I think that’s the best comment I’ve seen regarding this election.

  11. It’s going to be SO REFRESHING to end Obama Derangement Syndrome and transition to Clinton Derangement Syndrome!

    Combining Obama’s slogan with CDS you’d get, “Yes we can, lock her up!”

    I can see the memes already. Literally. Started this morning. There’s going to be a whole lot of unfollowing going on, I can tell you!

  12. Megalonyx, Our family feels that Trump is indeed a demagogue who might be capable of permanent damage to the USA by inciting his followers to engage in anti democracy behaviors. Its pretty scary actually.

  13. I voted at mid-day. No lines at all. Many empty voting booths. It took only a few minutes. I imagine things will get crowded later in the day and into the evening.

  14. My wife voted at about 9.30 and the place was fuller than we’ve ever seen it.

  15. Polls close in Florida (except for the western panhandle) and some other states in the Eastern US at 7:00, which is an hour and a half from now. The tension is mounting.

  16. @Megalonyx: Things are not looking good here at 11:00 PM EST. Trump was just projected as the winner in Florida, and he’s leading in other key states.

    By the way, I could have written your comment verbatim. My feelings and thoughts exactly.

  17. Nate Silver at 538 has Trump at 71% win.

    Looks like there won’t be a Clinton Derangement Syndrome after all.

  18. [*Curmudgeon wakes up, turns on TV, learns election results*] Okay, that was interesting. Now what else shall we talk about?

  19. Our Curmudgeon asks

    Now what else shall we talk about?

    How about The Megalonyx Plan for Transatlantic Peace and Harmony?

    It works like this: the UK sends the 52% of our population that voted for Brexit to the USA, while the USA sends us the 50% of its population that didn’t vote for The Donald, each portion to be immediately granted citizenship of their new homes.

    The UK would then be free to remain in the EU, and the USA would be free to pull up the drawbridge and build all the walls it wishes. Result: in place of two nations which are each deeply polarised, we’d have two harmonious and happy nations.

    I await my Nobel Peace Prize.

  20. Full disclosure: the above plan does mean you end up with all the Creationists…

  21. Megalonyx: I like both your analysis and your plan. For the first time in my 73 years (the 8th was my birthday — as Lesley Gore sang “oh, what a birthday surprise!”) I really wish I lived somewhere else. Canada’s a bit close (unless they build a wall, but I did work with some scientists at University College a long time ago, and the the UK would be fine.