Creationist Wisdom #738: Lake of Fire

Today’s letter-to-the-editor appears in The Forum of Fargo-Moorhead, published in Fargo, North Dakota. It’s titled The lake of fire awaits, and the newspaper has no comments section.

Because the writer isn’t a politician, preacher, or other public figure, we won’t embarrass or promote him by using his full name. His first name is Richard. Excerpts from his letter will be enhanced with our Curmudgeonly commentary and some bold font for emphasis. Here we go!

When I was in grade school back in the 1940s we were taught to be proud of America and the first thing we did at the beginning of the school day was to say the pledge of allegiance. We could pray in school and at Christmas time we put on a Christmas play portraying the birth of Jesus Christ in school. The divorce rate less than 10 percent.

Those were the days! But then everything changed. Richard says:

Then prayer was taken out of the schools in the ’60s and since then religion eroded at a faster rate. Since then we have killed millions of babies in the name of freedom of choice for women. We have consumed more illegal drugs than all the rest of the world put together. We have one of the highest divorce rates in the world. We have burdened future generations with trillions of dollars of debt. We host 60 percent of all the internet porn sites in the world. We have legalized sexual perversion and same sex marriage. The list could go on and on.

Depressing, isn’t it? What happened to us? Richard explains:

Evolution has also become popular over the last 70 years and we are brainwashing our kids from grade school through college that evolution is a scientific fact. What do we expect our children to believe? I would challenge them to make a list of these scientific facts so we all could see them.

Is anyone willing to accept Richard’s challenge? We didn’t think so. He continues:

Evolution teaches that there is no God, therefore we are here by some freak accident and we do not have to answer to God for the way we live. But in reality science has also proved that evolution is impossible and can’t happen. This means that those who are taught evolution is a scientific fact, will teach their children the same and when they die they will live forever in what is called “the lake of fire and brimstone.”

Are you paying attention, dear reader? You won’t like what comes next:

They are not serving God, but their father which is called Satan.

While you’re pondering that, here’s another excerpt:

Because of this they will not allow any classes in any public schools to teach an alternate course on how God created all things. What they really are doing is not giving our children a choice in what direction they should go and what they should believe in. The evolutionists do not want any competition, because they know that if they did, they would lose the battle between evolution and creationism. What they are doing is taking the glory of God and giving to themselves and to evolution.

And now we come to the end:

The one thing we need to remember is this: We all will face God and every knee will bow before Christ, and proclaim Him God. All those who do not believe by faith and trust in Christ for their salvation, will face Him at the judgment. Your future will not look very bright then and will last for all eternity. I urge each one of you to seek out God to find out what God has done for you.

That was a perfect letter for Christmas. Thanks, Richard.

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19 responses to “Creationist Wisdom #738: Lake of Fire

  1. And how do you think Dick would feel if the schools indoctrinated his kiddies with one of thousands of other religious myths rather than the one he prefers. Personally, I think the North Dakota kids would benefit from tales of Ganesh. And, among the many things about evolution that Dick doesn’t know, is the fact that is says nothing about his god or anyone else’s. Public schools are not for teaching about sky fairies, but you’re certainly free to indoctrinate anyone in your own home or church about any sky fairy you like.

  2. That’s quite a laundry list of ills blamed on evilution (sic), but surely not comprehensive. Oh, and the poor children whose thoughts are totally controlled by those teachers! Praying silently to their sky deity has no effect, for it must be an audible prayer and all must participate, willingly or not.
    “I urge each one of you to seek out God to find out what God has done for you.”
    Interesting challenge. How does one determine exactly what the sky deity has done for a person, or rather hasn’t done. How many prayers have been answered versus not answered?
    “This means that those who are taught evolution is a scientific fact, will teach their children the same and when they die they will live forever in what is called “the lake of fire and brimstone.”
    Another unproveable life eternal theme propagated by religion. When you die you will live forever? And does the bible actually reference this locale, “the lake of fire and brimstone?”

  3. Richard claims

    Evolution has also become popular over the last 70 years

    Actually, evolution has been popular on earth for the last 3.8 billion years.

  4. DavidK asks

    And does the bible actually reference this locale, “the lake of fire and brimstone?”

    Revelation 20:10:

    nd the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

    But GPS co-ordinates are not provided…

  5. Hmm. I guess the f&b reference is very common in the sky deity’s book:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_and_brimstone

  6. at Christmas time we put on a Christmas play portraying the birth of Jesus Christ in school

    Damn! And I always thought he was born in a lowly cattleshed . . .

  7. In the King James version, “fire and brimstone” appears 6 times.

  8. Richard is a typical dimwit xtian who listens to the LIAR4jesus at the front of the church instead of being educated. NO BABIES have been killed for women’s body rights. And drugs are uselessly illegal because of racist political aholes and kept illegal so that corporate prisons keep fleecing the public. His 2nd paragraph shows he is too stoopid to waste time on!

  9. James Bolton Theuer

    That letter was excellent. I don’t think that I could have trolled any better than Richard (inadvertently?) did.

  10. When I was in grade school back in the 1940s… The divorce rate less than 10 percent.

    And then when those children raised on the pledge of allegiance and school prayer and Christmas plays grew up, the divorce rate skyrocketed to 50%. What exactly is he arguing for here?

  11. Eddie Janssen

    I guess Richard is very certain he is one of the chosen few.

  12. Ceteris Paribus

    Richard is disturbed about dead babies caused by not following the sacred instructions he finds in his Holy Bible? Richard states he was in grade school in the 1940’s. The US Census of 1940 was the first census since the Civil War that did not ask citizens if they were Civil War vets. The last vet didn’t die until 1956, meaning Richard could have actually had a chance to meet one and shake his hand.

    Something over 600,000 combatants were were killed during the four years of that war. More than all the US causalities combined in all of the the wars the United States has been involved in since then.

    The US civil war was predicated exactly on a difference of what the two sides found written inside the pages of their Holy Bibles. A total of maybe a million people, including combatants, civilians, and slaves, were killed as a result of the Civil War. And still, now, we have people like Richard, reading his Holy Bible, maybe hoping for still another reason to fight for a personal belief.

  13. Be scared of God the Boogeyman! Boooooohhhh!

  14. The appalling thing is that this gentleman’s “facts” (“But in reality science has also proved that evolution is impossible and can’t happen.” etc. ) have been provided by ignorant clergymen and ignorant/lying apologists.

    Re “I would challenge them to make a list of these scientific facts so we all could see them.” All of the facts have been published along with myriad books. I suspect the gentleman has read none of it or them. Just like the claim that there are no transitional fossils, a simple Google search would find lists of hundreds of them. But whereas science invites inquiry, in fact requires it, people who know The Truth™ do not recommend the practice because they already know everything.

  15. When I was in grade school back in the 1940s we were taught to be proud of America and the first thing we did at the beginning of the school day was to say the pledge of allegiance. We could pray in school and at Christmas time we put on a Christmas play portraying the birth of Jesus Christ in school. The divorce rate less than 10 percent.

    Of course, it wasn’t until the 1950s that the words “under God” were added to the Pledge of Allegiance as part of a Cold War effort to distinguish America from the atheistic USSR..

  16. It is highly irresponsible of newspapers to allow this garbage to see the light of day.

  17. “divorce rate was less than 10% back then” Clearly, it was much better back then because forcing people to stay together through religious/societal pressure is better for everyone.

  18. I am old enough to remember that there were people who would not vote for the U.S. presidential candidate Adlai Stevenson because he was divorced (although he did not remarry).

  19. His comment on the divorce rate is an interesting and highly deceptive one – he’s using one statistic for the 1940s (how many first-time marriages were annulled or divorced) and a different one for now (how many marriage in total were annulled or divorced). If you use the same statistic for each, the total rate still shows a significant increase, but not nearly the same one.

    (That said, he probably doesn’t know that he’s doing this and is just quoting a book or a pastor.)