Rev. David Rives — New Stars Are Never Seen

We’re getting worried about David Rives, the brilliant and articulate leader of David Rives Ministries. Our concern began when the Drool-o-tron™ called to us with its sirens and flashing lights. The blinking letters of its wall display said WorldNetDaily (WND). The Drool-o-tron™ had found the rev’s latest video.

Our computer was locked onto this headline at WND: How behavior of gases proves existence of God. Sounds interesting! The actual title of the rev’s video is “Gas in a Vacuum.”

We clicked on it and that’s when we became worried. Why? There are three reasons. First, the rev seems to be speaking very rapidly. And second, the video is only one minute long. The third reason is the subject matter.

The rev breathlessly tells us that according to “cosmic evolution,” stars formed after the Big Bang. But he says there has never been a sighting of a new star forming. The reason, he explains, is that gas always expands in a vacuum, it doesn’t contract to form stars. The bible, on the other hand, says God created the stars and everything else.

Something seemed very wrong. We took a look at PhysOrg and quickly found this: Protostar blazes bright, reshaping its stellar nursery, which says:

A massive protostar, deeply nestled in its dust-filled stellar nursery, recently roared to life, shining nearly 100 times brighter than before. This outburst, apparently triggered by an avalanche of star-forming gas crashing onto the surface of the star, supports the theory that young stars can undergo intense growth spurts that reshape their surroundings.


In 2008, before the era of ALMA [the Atacama Large Millimeter/submillimeter Array], Hunter [Todd Hunter, an astronomer at the National Radio Astronomy Observatory (NRAO) in Charlottesville, Va.] and his colleagues used the SMA to observe a small but active portion of the Cat’s Paw Nebula (also known as NGC 6334), a star-forming complex located about 5,500 light-years from Earth in the direction of the southern constellation Scorpius. This nebula is similar in many respects to its more northern cousin, the Orion Nebula, which is also brimming with young stars, star clusters, and dense cores of gas that are on the verge of becoming stars. The Cat’s Paw Nebula, however, is forming stars at a faster rate.

How could the rev be so wrong? Or — gasp! — maybe those astronomers are lying to us.

Anyway, the rev is still wearing the same gray bible-boy suit with a dark blue shirt that he wore for the last two videos we wrote about. But who cares? He’s the cutest rev you’ve ever seen! As we said, the video is only one minutes long before the commercial at the end. Go ahead, click over to WND and watch it.

As we always do with the rev’s videos, we dedicate the comments section for your use as an Intellectual Free Fire Zone. You know the rules. Okay, the comments are open. Go for it!

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15 responses to “Rev. David Rives — New Stars Are Never Seen

  1. Ah, sounds like he’s been listening to creo-tard “Dr.” Jason Lisle for that one.

  2. How does he know that gas expands in a vacuum? Has he seen that happening, on a stellar scale? Name one nebula which has been seen to expand over the course of the centuries. It seems to be that there are naked-eye nebulas which have been mentioned ever since antiquity – the famous Orion nebula, for example – which have not disappeared or diminished.
    Or, tell us about the theory of gases in a vacuum, which the astronomers have missed. This must be treated in the professional literature. Unless this is a cover-up!

    This is must be a novel creationist claim – that a contemporary phenomenon need constant divine intervention contrary to the ordinary working of nature!

  3. Michael Fugate

    Robert George and Cornel West has produced a petition suggesting people should listen to those of opposing views rather than silence them.

    The DI thinks this is relevant to their cause – it’s all about us, they shout – missing the point again.

  4. It just occurred to me, that he could make a better case for the formation of the galaxies. Solid, consensus astronomy confirms that the motion of a spiral galaxy is not accounted for our knowledge of the physical properties. Most astronomers assume that there is something unseen which is making the galaxies stick together. The materialist assumptions of the secularist astronomers lead them to assume that there is something other than the supernatural that is the cause.

  5. If gas always expands in a vacuum, then how is it possible for planets like earth to have an atmosphere of gas that resists expanding into the vastness of space?

    It’s almost as if there were another force capable of making matter, including gases, become more concentrated.

  6. Ross Cameron

    Interesting, isn`t it, that people whose religion stresses honesty and integrity, produce so many who exhibit the opposite? Must be a delusion gene at work in their brain.

  7. Actually quite a while I have been worrying about The Good Rev for completely different reasons: not enough foolishness and way too long videos. In this one he has refound his former brilliancy. The Good Rev never has observed a gas forming a star in a vacuum created on Earth hence it can’t be done in Space hence Goddiddid, the Ultimate Helpmate of Gravity (which was created by that same god of cource). Who else can formulate an argument like that?
    At least for now I’m his biggest fan again.

  8. Ceteris Paribus

    I watched the Rev’s video. But the only thing I could personally observe is that apparently the good Rev has recently been getting his hair dyed. Or maybe it’s a toupe. But in the spirit of what the Rev was proclaiming — “Gas in a vacuum expands. It doesn’t form stars.” — I will be charitable and pretend not to notice. After all, hairs in a vacuum expand. They don’t form wigs.

  9. I’ve been saying that the good Rev should forget about evolution, where his ignorance is encyclopedic, and go back to astronomy. That was ill-considered. He knows as little about astronomy as he does about biology.

  10. BTW, the standard explanation of the gravitational collapse of a gas cloud in interstellar space, known as the Jeans instability, was done by Sir James Jeans (1877-1946).

  11. Please would the good Rev explain to us why our own atmosphere doesn’t quickly disappear off into space.

  12. I’m curious as to why the Intelligent Designers, or whatever supernatural agency responsible, are competent when it comes to such a task as making an entire universe with parameters fined tuned to making human life possible, why were they were driven to micro-managing individual stars. Trillions of them. Most of them would never be of any importance, never detected by humans. When it came to stars that were so pointless that the designers discovered that they hadn’t planned in advance for them, that they didn’t just say, forget it, nobody will ever miss them? We’ve got more unfinished tasks, like privileging Earth fit for life, and then redoing life again when that is not turning out.

  13. Warren Johnson

    “Gas in a Vacuum” by David Rives Ministry should have broken the Drool-o-tron so bad, that a new one will need to be built out of titanium and diamond. Even the most ignorant viewer of WND must know that gravity still works in a vacuum. After all, David Rives brain still works in a vacuum, so that proves it.

  14. Michael Fugate says: “Robert George and Cornel West has produced a petition suggesting people should listen to those of opposing views rather than silence them.”

    I’m working on that now.

  15. Michael Fugate