Creationist Wisdom #769: Science Confirms Bible

Today’s letter-to-the-editor (it’s actually a guest column) appears in the Christian Post, which describes itself as “the nation’s most comprehensive Christian news website.” They don’t have a comments feature. The title is Does Science Confirm the Bible?

Unless the letter-writer is a politician, preacher, or other public figure, we won’t embarrass or promote him by using his full name — but today we’ve got a preacher. It’s Shane Idleman, founder and pastor of the Westside Christian Fellowship in Lancaster, California. We’ll give you a few excerpts from rev’s column, enhanced with our Curmudgeonly commentary, and some bold font for emphasis. Okay, here we go:

The uniformity, the consistency, the stability, and the harmony of the universe declares that there is a Creator.

Yeah. Galaxies are colliding, stars are exploding, and the surface of every planet and moon we can see is covered with impact craters. Very harmonious. Great beginning. Then the rev says:

“In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth” (Genesis 1:1). Science teaches that time, space, and matter must occur simultaneously — Genesis confirms it.

We’ll let that pass without comment. In fact, there’s no need to comment about anything the rev says. Here’s more:

The fine tuning of the universe is impossible without a Creator — from the perfect distance of the sun from the earth at 93-million miles, to the atmospheres perfect balance, we see that only a Designer could design such a complex structure to produce and sustain life.

Yes, the designer got at least one planet right — out of billions that exist out there. The rev continues:

Evolution is not a fact; it’s a theory. Charles Darwin, the main proponent for evolution, basically said, “I think this is what happened,” when he wrote, On The Origin of Species. Even though there is no fossil support, DNA confirmation, or any physical evidence anywhere, it is taught in our school system as fact and creation is viewed as a myth. How ironic — a theory without evidence is taught as fact, and an explanation of creation (backed by science) is taught as a myth.

This guy is amazing! Let’s read on:

It actually takes more “faith” to believe that everything came from nothing. Additionally, the science of Biogenesis [Huh?] discredits evolution. It says that living things come from other living things, thus answering the age old question: “What came first, the chicken or the egg?” According to the science of Biogenesis and God’s Word, the chicken did.

If you’re curious about the so-called Law of Biogenesis, which the rev has promoted to a “science,” we discuss it in Common Creationist Claims Confuted. Another excerpt from the rev’s column:

This is why many scientists from NASA Langley research center, as well as PhDs from Harvard, Princeton, Yale, and so on, all signed a statement that said the following, “We are skeptical of claims for the ability of random mutations and natural selection to account for the complexity of life. Careful examination of the evidence for the Darwinian theory should be encouraged.”

He’s referring to the Scientific Dissent From Darwinism. We’ve discussed it a few times — see Discoveroids’ “Scientific Dissent from Darwinism”.

Whoa — we just noticed that we’re only halfway through this thing, so we’ll have to be very selective from now on. Ah, we couldn’t leave this out:

Christianity looks at the evidence, compares it with science, and confirms it with God’s truth. Job said that the earth free floats in space. Isaiah declared that the earth is a sphere. Hebrews talks about tiny unseen particles that appear in the creation of life. Leviticus encourages us to wash with running water to prevent disease and that the life of the body is in the blood. Job knew that springs were at the bottom of the ocean. Genesis disclosed that our bodies are made from the earth (28 base and trace elements). Psalms mentions the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics — “The universe will perish; they will all wear out like a garment.” Jeremiah said that stars are innumerable but scientists as early as 1600 said that there are about 1,005.

What an ark-load! And there’s so much more! We gotta stop somewhere, so here’s one last excerpt:

So yes, science confirms, verifies, and supports the Bible. But how can people look at the exact same evidence and come to different conclusions? It’s an issue of the heart. Many “worship the creature rather than the Creator” (cf. Romans 1). To say that we evolved from primordial ooze gives us an “out” that there is no God.

Okay, that’s enough. Click over there and read it all. The rev thinks it’s a real mind-changer. If you read it and your mind is changed, let us know.

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17 responses to “Creationist Wisdom #769: Science Confirms Bible

  1. The uniformity, the consistency, the stability, and the harmony of the universe declares that there is a Creator.
    And that means uniformism, that the basic parameters of the natural world are reliable over time. Rates of radioactive decay, the speed of light, speeds of chemical reactions, are stable and consistent. Even if were weren’t there, we know because their harmony comes from their Creator.

  2. Pastor makes a compelling case for universal basic science education for everyone.

  3. One doesn’t need much understanding of science. What is needed is the ability to detect baloney.

  4. Ross Cameron

    I`m waiting for a pharmaceutical break-through drug that cures delusion

  5. Eric Lipps

    Reading science from the Bible is like reading history from the quatrains of Nostradamus: if you stare at the text long enough, you can see anything you want. That doesn’t make it real.

  6. Christianity looks at the evidence, compares it with science, and confirms it with God’s truth.

    In other words, they are biblical apologists from beginning to end.

    That’s the exact opposite of science.

  7. “What is needed is the ability to detect baloney.”

    Uhhh, that really strong distinct odor coming from the pastor’s claims isn’t anything like baloney. Surely I’m not the only one to notice that there is absolutely *NO* quality control required for becoming a religious leader.

  8. Does science confirm the bible? Yes, indeed, science can say there is a book written long ago called the bible, well, actually written by many people and highly edited by various groups in its earlier days and translated over and over since that time into many versions. As for the content that’s a totally different story, and science does not nor can not confirm any of the content.

  9. How many ribs do women have again? According to science and according to the Bible?

  10. A bulb dimmer than Davies!! How do you find them? You would think they are so dim they can’t be seen!

  11. “Evolution can be mean, there is no dumbass vaccine.” Jimmy Buffett

  12. @mnbo
    Of course, the Bible doesn’t say that men have one less rib. It says that Adam had one rib removed, from which Eve was formed. It does not say anything about what happened to the Y chromosome, or anything about the inherited sex-based differences of their children. It does not say how many ribs Adam had before the operation, or how many ribs Eve had when she was formed.
    Of course, we have good reason to think that the authors of the Bible accepted common folk-lore about inheritance, just as about other things about nature. Things which are more explicitly stated, like the firmament.

  13. The title of this blog post appears to have been truncated:

    Science Confirms Bible_____________…is what? Do we get to fill in the blank ourselves, viz.:

    (a) Is Just one of Many Ancient Mythological Texts, Such as The Gita, The Vedas, The Egyptian Book of the Dead, The Upanishads, &c. &c.

    (b) Is a Human Artefact

    (c) Is Literature, Not a Science Textbook

    (d) Combusts at 451 Degrees Farhenheit

  14. Megalonyx observes: “The title of this blog post appears to have been truncated”

    Correct. Early in the history of this humble blog, I developed a strong preference for short titles that would fit on one line, so sometimes I’m compelled to be a bit ambiguous.

  15. techreseller

    Has the rev changed my mind. Thinking. Thinking, Thinking. Nope.

  16. jimroberts

    Imagine yourself as a moderately intelligent and curious 17-year-old creationist. You read the pastor’s column and think, “Does this represent the best arguments for our position that we Christians have? I must look into this.” You are, possibly irrevocably, on the slippery slope to atheism. Your mind has not been changed: but it will change.

  17. Ross Cameron

    I`d settle for knowing who screwed who when A and E`s sons reached maturity and wanted to mate. I know blah, blah, blah–mysterious ways.

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