Ken Ham Has Proof of the Flood

You may have heard of the Channeled Scablands, about which Wikipedia says:

The Channeled Scablands are a relatively barren and soil-free landscape on the eastern side of the U.S. state of Washington that was scoured by a single cataclysmic flood which was unleashed when a large glacial lake drained. … Geologist J Harlen Bretz coined the term “channeled scablands” in a series of papers written in the 1920s. The debate on the origin of the Scablands that ensued for four decades became one of the great controversies in the history of earth science. …

Bretz conducted research and published many papers during the 1920s describing the Channeled Scablands. His theories of how they were formed required short but immense floods -500 cubic miles (2,100 km3) – for which Bretz had no explanation. Bretz’s theories met with vehement opposition from geologists of the day, who tried to explain the features with uniformitarian theories.

J.T. Pardee first suggested in 1925 to Bretz that the draining of a glacial lake could account for flows of the magnitude needed. Pardee continued his research over the next 30 years, collecting and analyzing evidence that eventually identified Lake Missoula as the source of the Missoula Floods and creator of the Channeled Scablands.

Pardee’s and Bretz’s theories were accepted only after decades of painstaking work and fierce scientific debate. Research on open-channel hydraulics in the 1970s put Bretz’s theories on solid scientific ground. In 1979 Bretz received the highest medal of the Geological Society of America, the Penrose Medal, to recognize that he had developed one of the great ideas in the earth sciences.

It’s a great example how a scientific hypothesis, although initially greeted with skepticism, can eventually be accepted as a well supported theory. Another example is the long struggle of Alfred Wegener to establish the theory of Continental drift.

Creationists like to delude their drooling followers by claiming that one day they too will be vindicated. Unfortunately, they use what we call the Creationist Scientific Method:

1. Select a conclusion which you hope is true.
2. Find one piece of evidence that possibly might fit.
3. Ignore all other evidence.
4. That’s it.

We see a good example today from Ken Ham (ol’ Hambo) — the ayatollah of Appalachia, the world’s holiest man who knows more about religion and science than everyone else. He just posted Mega Floods Are No Longer “Geological Heresy” to Science. Here are some excerpts, with bold font added by us for emphasis:

National Geographic recently ran an interesting story about the scablands in Washington State. The subtitle reads, “Geologists couldn’t account for the strange landforms of eastern Washington State. Then a high school teacher dared to question the scientific dogma of his day.”

In 1909, high-school-teacher-turned-geologist J. Harlen Bretz noticed that the features of the scablands couldn’t be the result of slow and gradual processes over millions of years as was commonly believed at the time. He proposed that a massive flood carved out these startling features. But this “was geological heresy,” and his ideas were dismissed. And it wasn’t because he didn’t have evidence — he did, and what he proposed is accepted as fact today (with a few modifications).

Here’s the magazine article that inspired Hambo: Formed by Megafloods, This Place Fooled Scientists for Decades. You know where Hambo is going with this. He says:

The geologists of his [Bretz] day rejected his proposal because they were locked into the mindset of millions of years of slow processes and didn’t want to consider anything that sounded like it could have been related to the biblical Flood of Noah’s day. It’s the same sort of bias we currently see secularists exhibiting.

This is so predictable. Hambo tells us:

From a biblical perspective, what we see in Washington State, and other places, makes sense. There was a global Flood [Hee hee!] that ripped up miles of sediment and redeposited it in layers.

He continues:

Geologists today miss the overwhelming evidence of a global Flood (that’s staring at them all across the earth) because they are blinded by the idea of millions of years of slow and gradual processes. Many geologists won’t even consider the history in the Bible because of their naturalistic assumptions about the history of the earth. But it’s the Bible that provides the true history of the universe, and this has been confirmed over and over again as we study the world around us.

Those geologists are fools! Here’s the end of Hambo’s post:

Why won’t secular geologists consider the Bible’s history? Because if the Bible is right in its history, then they would be challenged to consider the Bible’s morality — and the gospel message that is based on that history!

Yes, that’s the reason. It’s all about avoiding morality. Hambo is so wise!

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11 responses to “Ken Ham Has Proof of the Flood

  1. Steve Watson

    So why doesn’t the whole freaking world look like that, Kenny? The fact that we can tell the difference between fast and slow processes, and that the landscape contains examples of both, puts paid to AIG-style global catastrophism.

  2. Ken Phelps

    @Steve Watson – Well of course there’s no answer to that. He’d simply hoped you wouldn’t raise that particular objection. /Python

  3. Derek Freyberg

    And Kenny conveniently forgets to mention that the National Geographic story says that current wisdom on the formation of the scablands is that there were a series of floods: “In fact, subsequent research indicates that 80 or more floods ravaged the scablands near the end of the last ice age”, with possibly more in earlier ice ages. A bit difficult to reconcile that with an ark in around 3000 BCE.

  4. “Geologists today miss the overwhelming evidence of a global Flood”
    And what would that evidence be? Some quotes from a badly outdated book?

  5. A subject dear to my heart. When I moved to Oregon in 1982 and drove through the Columbia Gorge a few times, I chanced upon a geological info board that referred to the Missoula floods. After several years of investigation I realized that these floods were incontrovertible proof against Noah’s Flood.

    The ICR has published a thick booklet on the Missoula flood by Michael Oard. It claims there was only ONE flood, a few hundred years after Noah’s Flood. It’s full of bogus claims and arguments, and deliberately ignores or explains away every bit of evidence that there were 40+ floods about 12-15 thousand years ago.

    Their “explanation” of the Missoula floods is a perfect illustration of the gross scholastic dishonesty of creationists, especially the young-earth kind.

  6. The Curmudgeon says of the creationist “science” method;
    “1. Select a conclusion which you hope is true.
    2. Find one piece of evidence that possibly might fit.
    3. Ignore all other evidence.
    4. That’s it.”
    When we are so mesmerized by our beliefs that we are incapable of examining the facts and evidence we become the kind of “scientist” Ken Ham is. I’m thinking Ken, that the Geological Society of America(GSA) is better at geology than you are. Why are you such a liar? Did God tell you to lie? Or is this just your ego at work?

  7. I did a few field trips into the Scablands in graduate school, and a MA thesis there as well.

    Ham should be avoiding making any claims about that series of floods because we can date the events, we know their origin and mostly their routes, and none of this matches the mythical flood.

    One particular telling fact: these floods are 3 to 4 times older than the mythical flood, but we can tell a lot about them from the evidence left behind. That’s just the evidence that’s missing for a global flood much more recently.

  8. Sometimes a surprise occurs. After contacting state representative mack butler of alabama regarding his backing of a new creationism bill I learned about on the curmudgeon’s site, I received this email from his iPhone “Thank you for your email. You sent info and not insults. Thanks! Mack”
    So, in this case, perhaps we can classify Butler as simply uninformed rather than intentionally and willfully ignorant. I’m watching to see what happens there.

  9. Ross Cameron

    Typical modus operandi for a creationist.Just as they pick ‘n choose their way through the bible, taking what they like and ignoring the commands to kill, maim,oppress, they pick ‘n choose what can be slanted to support their beliefs and ignore the rest.

  10. Ham likes to ask “Were you there?” We should respond with “Where’s the Flood?” If one lake of water (Lake Missoula) could tear up 16,000 square miles of eastern Washington into “scablands” then Noah’s Flood should have turned the whole world into super scablands. But it didn’t. No evidence, no Flood!

  11. 16,000 square miles of eastern Washington is so small compared to the total area of the USA, less than 4,000,000 sq. mi. (less than 1/2 %). Where is the suggestion that there is remnants of that same flood in Florida, Ohio and Kansas? Let alone the 16,000,000 sq. mi. of the Americas, or 57,000,000 sq.mi. of total land mass.