Creationist Wisdom #797: Evolution Is a Curse

Today’s letter-to-the-editor appears in The Guardian of Charlottetown, in the Canadian province of Prince Edward Island. It’s titled The evolution lie is a curse against the Bible, and the newspaper has a comments section.

Because the writer isn’t a politician, preacher, or other public figure, we won’t embarrass or promote him by using his full name. His first name is Ron. At the end of his letter we’re told that Ron “has read the Bible from cover to cover 87 times and spent 30 to 60 minutes every day for 29 years studying the Bible. He calls himself a defender of God’s holy word.” Very impressive! Excerpts from his letter will be enhanced with our Curmudgeonly commentary and some bold font for emphasis. Here we go!

On July 24, Doug Perry’s letter to the editor of The Guardian called the universal flood of the Bible a myth and that there was no evidence, so no argument.

This is probably the letter Ron is complaining about: No evidence, no argument. It’s the sort of thing that would infuriate a creationist. Ron is infuriated, so his letter is basically a defense of the Flood. He says:

I am not surprised since most so-called Christian churches only believe parts of the Bible, so why would anyone believe the Bible when the Christian Church questions it? The belief that the Bible is not God’s Holy Word is widespread and is under attack from all fronts, even the so-called Christian Churches. The evolution lie is a curse against the Bible.

It’s a curse! After that he tells us:

To profess to be a Christian means to believe all of God’s Holy Word. When a Christian believes evolution over creation then I believe them not to be a Christian. Throw out Creation and Genesis collapses. The foundation of our faith becomes null and void.

In for a penny, in for a pound. Ron continues:

My job entails giving out tickets and people lie so they will not receive one. Repeating a lie over and over will not make it true.

Ron seems to be a traffic cop, so he must know what he’s talking about. Let’s read on:

The Devil is the father of lies. He is gleeful when people believe evolution and that there was no global flood. When evolution is taught in schools as science and a fact, our children lose self-esteem, morals and purpose. The Bible use [sic] to be a big part of our school system but is pretty much banned. The Devil has taken over.

Egad — the Devil has taken over! Another excerpt:

The nation of Israel is proof positive that the Bible is true. Creation 4004 BC; Global flood 2348 BC; Tower of Babel 2242 BC; Call of Abraham 1921 BC; Time of the Judges 1491 BC; Time of King Saul 1095 BC; Split Kingdom 975 BC; Christ was born 5 BC. I was in Israel when they celebrated King David’s 3,000th year birthday. These are real events, real people and real History. God told Noah to build an ark, which took 100 years to build.

That’s a lot of evidence! Here’s more

World population in 2000 BC was 27 million; 1800 AD 1 billion; and 2012 AD, 7 billion. Noah lived 350 years after the Flood and they had big families. King Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines. No problem for 8 people to grow to 7 billion.

Whoa — hold on! In Answers in Genesis — The Ice Age, AIG said that eight generations passed from the Flood to Abraham’s birth. Bible scholars estimate the time of Abraham to be approximately 2,000 BC. We made some population calculations, starting with the survivors of the Flood, and concluded that by the 8th generation — when AIG says Abraham was alive — there were 6,561 human families. That’s roughly 13,000 married adults plus their kids, plus any of the adults’ aged parents who were still alive. That was the entire human population of the world in the days of Abraham — slightly less than Ron’s estimate of 27 million.

Anyway, let’s read on:

The Bible is the written word of Almighty God and the uncut history of the universe. Our beginning and our end. God used His chosen writers to write it and if you have any sense at all, read it, believe it and follow it. Listen to God who always existed and will always exist.

Are you paying attention, dear reader? If you have any sense at all, you’ll believe! And now we come to the end:

The Bible is my evidence and the source of my Christian faith. The Bible and the Christian faith are under attack as never before. BC use [sic] to mean before Christ and AD in the year of our Lord. Now Bible haters want BC to mean before the common era and AD changed to CE, the common era.

That was a bit anticlimactic. Nevertheless, Ron’s letter is a great addition to our collection.

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19 responses to “Creationist Wisdom #797: Evolution Is a Curse

  1. Whoa, just a minute. “Christ was born 5 BC.”
    Now that’s truly a miracle unless he was hanging out somewhere incognito for 5 years before his first appearance on the stage!

    And I like these statements he made:

    “Noah lived 350 years after the Flood and they had big families.”
    Must have kept the diaper industry thriving.

    “King Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines.”
    So much for the argument for biblical monogamy. I think David had eight wives and other featured biblical personalities followed suit.

  2. Some years ago I was teaching mathematics to adults who I had been told included some creationists. When we got on to exponential growth we estimated how many people built the pyramids, assuming the population started with Noah and a constant growth since then. We guessed the proportion of the population in Egypt, how many were male of suitable age and not farming or in the military, etc. IIRC we came up with 78. One of the students looked concerned so I just said that presumably at least one of the assumptions were wrong and left it at that. With luck, at least one student will think a little more critically.

  3. @Bwbach
    Wouldn’t it nice to have an app which could present the mathematical problems of YEC? One could let the user change the assumptions, and discover that there is no change which would work.
    The Bible gives some exact figures:
    The number of Noah’s family on the Ark.
    The number of Jacob’s family which moved to Egypt.
    The number of Israelites fit for warriors at the Exodus.
    Of course, there is always the “and here a miracle happens”, but it undercuts the old YEC argument of the population growth “proves” that mankind could not be older than 10,000 years.

  4. @DavidK
    Jesus was born in the reign of Herod the Great, who died in 4BC.
    This was well known, but not at the time of Dionysius Exiguus, who set up the chronology of the Common Era (“A.D.”). BTW, Archbishop James Ussher was aware of the mistake of Dionysius and took account of that in his chronology, which accounts for his dating of the creation at 2004 before the common era = 2000 exactly before the before the birth of Jesus.

  5. Interesting.there was a worldwide flood, and a reduction of the total human population to 8, right in the middle of the Egyptian Old Kingdom era, and the silly Egyptians didn’t even notice.

  6. When a dimwit starts any argument with “& the buyBull…” that can be instantly translated to “I’m stoopid as a pile of dog poop, and I like it here!”

  7. Paul Braterman: and neither did any of the other civilizations that left written records around that time. Always a problem for the alleged great flood!

  8. Dave Luckett

    Yes, no doubt about it, Ron’s a fruitloop with spangles and extra frosting. They’re everywhere. So?

  9. “neither did any of the other civilizations that left written records around that time”
    Written records! Pthah! Obvious forgeries by Satan.

  10. @TomS: “Jesus was born in the reign of Herod the Great, who died in 4BC.
    This was well known …”
    To whom was it well known? The earliest known claim of this is in the anonymous “Gospel according to Matthew”, written a (long) lifetime after the alleged event. Moreover, “Matthew”‘s account was contradicted in almost all particulars, including the date, by “Luke”‘s. written a few years later.

  11. I@jimroberts
    I meant the date of Herod’s death.

  12. Ross Cameron

    The only fact from Ron ‘Throw out Creation and Genesis collapses. The foundation of our faith becomes null and void.’

  13. Dave Luckett

    I know, I know, theology is bootless. But “Throw out Creation and Genesis collapses. The foundation of our faith becomes null and void” is such tendentious nonsense. No Christian, no theist, is throwing out Creation. God remains the Creator, and the means of His creation is as He chooses, by the natural course of the Universe as He designed it. Genesis becomes what it always was, a collection of traditional tales: myth, legend, parable and fable, always with truth and often great wisdom within them. Nowhere does scripture say that Genesis is anything else. Jesus didn’t, either.

    “The foundation of our (Christian) faith” is that Christ redeemed all who believe in Him, and made it possible to forgive all sin – that which is acknowledged, and that which is not; that which we know about, and that which we don’t; that which comes simply from being human, and that which is individual. All sin. Before that awesome idea, quibbling about the precise nature of “original sin” is just silly. All sin consists essentially of disobedience to God. All humanity eats that forbidden fruit every day, every hour. The redemption offered by the sacrifice of Jesus Christ is every bit as desperately needed if Genesis is what it clearly is, and not a literal account of the history of the Earth and early humanity.

    I really don’t mind Christians who can actually follow the immense ideas behind their faith, who know it is a faith. I admire those who actually practice its precepts: charity, kindliness, benevolence, forgiveness, mercy, compassion. I don’t believe what they believe, but that’s almost picayune. I do mind it when idiots like this small-minded loon write utter tosh in the newspapers to advertise their intolerance and ignorance.

  14. TomS; yes, it would be nice but under the circumstances I did not want to draw particular attention to biblical inconsistencies, although as a biologist rather than a mathematician I would have been far more comfortable discussing evolution rather than calculus!
    I don’t think many people appreciate exponential growth – at another community, a fly-in place in northern Canada, we estimated that well before the end of the century, at current rates of growth, the community would overtake the population of most Canadian cities. They thought it was funny but, as far as I could tell, did not consider the implications.

  15. @TomS: I meant the date of Herod’s death.
    Sorry, I took you to mean that the whole package, including “Jesus was born in …”, was well known.

  16. Michael Fugate

    Wouldn’t it have been prescient of Ham to have built his boat in Houston? Just think if it could be used to shelter flood victims.

  17. Retired Prof

    Yes, Michael Fugate, and Ham would not have closed his ark replica the way Joel Osteen locked people out of his huge church. Ham would have welcomed the refugees aboard. Of course, as a savvy businessman, he would have tripled the admission price.

  18. I wish I’d seen Ron’s letter so I could answer it. I’m Australian, you see: 60,000+ years of continuous human civilisation.

    I think that’s why Ken Ham had to leave home. The facts didn’t suit his theory and he saw reminders of it every damn day. Hard to preach young earth creationism with a straight face when people in the congregation are Aboriginals.