Creationist Wisdom #840: Science in the Bible

Today’s letter-to-the-editor appears in the Southwest Times Record of Fort Smith, Arkansas, on the Arkansas-Oklahoma border. The letter is titled Trying to explain away God is a waste of time, and the newspaper has a comments feature.

Because the writer isn’t a politician, preacher, or other public figure, we won’t embarrass or promote him by using his full name. His first name is Bill. Excerpts from his letter will be enhanced with our Curmudgeonly commentary and some bold font for emphasis. Here we go!

Most religions have books they refer to as sacred writings, but neither the Mormons’, nor Buddhists’, nor Muslims’ holy books contain prophecy.

We have no expertise in such matters, but we find it difficult to believe that only the bible contains prophecy. Anyway, Bill says:

Christianity has a book called the Holy Bible which has almost 4,000 references of prophecy; most when written were still future events, but occurred as predicted.

Wowie — 4,000 prophecies occurred as predicted! After that he tells us the source of his information:

Several of the points listed below are from Ray Comfort’s book, “Scientific Facts In The Bible.”

BWAHAHAHAHAHA! As you know, Ray Comfort is famous for his starring role in Ray Comfort’s “Banana video”. Bill continues:

The Bible, was written over a period of 1600 years by more than 40 authors, all in agreement. That is miraculous. I will list a few facts which the Bible presents but took mankind ages to discover.

He lists several “facts” in the bible that mankind only recently discovered. Here they are, with very little rebuttal from us. We started to provide links for his scripture references — King James version, of course — but that’s too much work. Here are Bill’s bible “facts”:

• Science has discovered that everything we see is composed of things we cannot see: invisible atoms (Heb. 11:3).

• Science believed for thousands of years that the world was flat, but the Bible told us about the circle of the Earth in Isa. 40:22. [We discussed that in The Earth Is Flat!]

• Environmentalists think we can save the Earth, but the Bible indicates that the heavens and Earth are wearing out. (Isa 51:6, Ps. 102:25, 26 and Heb 1:10-12.) Al Gore, your crowd is totally wrong.

• Eccl 1:6 tells about air currents 2000 years before science discovered them. The water cycle was revealed in Eccl 11:3 and Amos 9:6, but not fully realized until the 17th century.

• God gave Noah the blueprint for shipbuilding and man decided to use it in Holland in 1609, revolutionizing shipbuilding.

Impressive huh? Oh, regarding that last item, we found this reference, which says:

A pious shipbuilder in Holland by the name of Peter Jansen reasoned that the basic design for the ark as revealed by God to Noah should be an ideal blueprint for such vessels. So he built a smaller ship of the same proportions – six times as long as wide, and the height one-tenth of the length. Disregarding the ridicule heaped upon him in the course of the construction, like Noah himself, Jansen found that the completed ship could carry one-third more freight, would sail faster, and was safer than the old type ship. Today, with minimum variations, this design is used for almost all modern freighters.

That was overwhelming, so it’s a good thing the letter now comes to its conclusion:

Atheists, non-scientific scientists and others have tried to explain how everything began. I’m wondering if they can explain how no two people have the same fingerprints or DNA? Trying to explain away an all-loving, all-knowing creative God is a waste of time and according to the Bible, those who do will have an eternity of regrets.

Heed Bill’s warning, dear reader, or you too will suffer an eternity of regrets.

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14 responses to “Creationist Wisdom #840: Science in the Bible

  1. This guy is refuted by his own words. He says “Christianity has a book called the Holy Bible which has almost 4,000 references of prophecy; most when written were still future events, but occurred as predicted.” The words “most when written were still future events” a re telling. This means he is admitting that some (the result of subtracting “most” from “all”) were written after the events they predicted.

    I will bet you, cash money, this guy is a biblical inerrancy guy, that he believes the Bible is perfect and contains no errors. Well, no errors but quite a few deceptions, including prophecies made about events that have already occurred!

  2. Michael Fugate

    Democritus 400BCE Hebrews 60CE

  3. That’s really too much to handle for one post.
    “Non-scientific scientists” stood out for me and needs some unpacking.

    When it comes to “more than 40 authors, all in agreement” one could stop right in Genesis with the two contradicting creation stories.
    But be careful! Don’t use that argument on an experienced creationist. He will blow you away with his rebuttal. Do your homework first.

  4. Michael Fugate

    40 students could work together on a problem and all get the same answer and still be wrong.

  5. Googled Quran prophecies – About 362,000 results.
    Didn’t the Dutch ark crash or something?

  6. “40 students could work together on a problem and all get the same answer and still be wrong.”
    But they don’t get the same answer. That’s the point.

  7. That Dutch “ship” was built on top of a steel barge, and that barge base was presumably made of “gopher steel”. Creationists just can’t seem to get anything right, due to the obvious hazards of their willful ignorance.

  8. I accidentally left out the URL link:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johan%27s_Ark

  9. “God gave Noah the blueprint for shipbuilding and man decided to use it in Holland in 1609, revolutionizing shipbuilding.”
    We Dutch have a few things to be chauvinistic about (though using those ships to commit genocide on the Banda Islands for the monopoly of nutmeg isn’t one of them) but honesty requires to admit that 200 years before some very non-Biblical Chinese already build ships that were at least three times as large as anything any European produced.

  10. Mark Germano

    “non-scientific scientists”

    While we’re on “non-x x,” I think it’s safe to assume that Bill is a non-biblical scholarly biblical scholar.

  11. Trying to explain away an all-loving, all-knowing creative God is a waste of time and according to the Bible, those who do will have an eternity of regrets.

    My only regret is reading portions of Bill’s letter.

  12. Atheists, non-scientific scientists and others have tried to explain how everything began. I’m wondering if they can explain how no two people have the same fingerprints or DNA? Trying to explain away an all-loving, all-knowing creative God is a waste of time and according to the Bible, those who do will have an eternity of regrets.

    Groan. It’s easy enough to explain why no two people have the same fingerprints: prenatal influences affect development even in identical twins. But about DNA/; identical twins do have identical DNA–that’s what makes them identical twins.

    But if you try to “explain away” such things, we’re told, we’ll have “an eternity of regrets”–presumably in the Lake of Fire, where a loving, all-benevolent God will put us for not just believing.