Creationist Wisdom #847: School Violence

We’ve only used the graphic above this post once before, back in 2010, but we were reminded of it by today’s letter-to-the-editor which appears in the Hiawatha World, a weekly newspaper in Hiawatha, Kansas (population 3,172).

The letter is titled Causes for school violence. The newspaper has a comments section, but there aren’t any comments yet.

Because the writer isn’t a politician, preacher, or other public figure, we won’t embarrass or promote him by using his full name. His first name is Bill. Excerpts from his letter will be enhanced with our Curmudgeonly commentary and some bold font for emphasis. Here we go!

I would like to commend the high school students for organizing and expressing their opinions against school violence. However, I would encourage the students and their parents to look deeper into the causes, and the answers to those causes. Are the media correct when they imply that the problem is only guns and mental health, or has there been a change in our culture?

What’s the answer? Bill has looked deeper than you, dear reader, and he says:

Are you no longer taught that there is a supernatural God that we are accountable to (such as “In God we trust”) or are we just here by random chance and have no definite purpose?

Wow — Bill may be on to something! Perhaps he’s reviewed Wikipedia’s List of school shootings in the United States, which goes back to 1840 (not counting some Indian violence in colonial days). He tells us:

Other questions we can ask are:

1. Is Darwinian evolution based on observed evidence or on blind faith?

2. Has the national education establishment been infiltrated by some individuals who have an agenda that is not in the best interests of America?

3. Are stronger locks and doors and armed guards the answer?

I am sure that you probably have other questions. How do we find answers?

Tell us Bill! How do we find the answers? He continues:

To help start a community discussion, there will be a three week series of speakers on video at the Morrill Public Library meeting room at 7 p.m. on Thursdays, April 5, 12, and 19. I would encourage students, parents, teachers, pastors and others to come and listen and see what we can learn.

Ooooooooooooh! A three week series of speakers! It sounds wonderful! Let’s read on:

Topics will be:

1. Evolution vs. God

2. God’s word vs. man’s word – does it matter?

3. Whose agenda are we following?

That sounds fantastic! The rest of Bill’s letter is a phone number you can call to get more information, but you’ll have to click over there to get it.

There’s nothing even remotely that great where you live, is there, dear reader? You probably thought the people of Kansas led boring lives, but now you know better.

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6 responses to “Creationist Wisdom #847: School Violence

  1. Ironically, in that picture I count 5 (if not 6) things that Christians have been proficient at participating in throughout history…..

  2. Dave Luckett

    There’s also the old aphorism: “When all you’ve got is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.” If all you’ve got is authoritarian religion, then everything that is not authoritarian religion – science, the media, the state, the schools, society at large – looks like something to hit with it.

    It’s wearisome, but how many times must it be said? Evolution is not opposed to God. The theory says nothing whatsoever about God. It is not even opposed to reading the Bible as the Word of God. It says nothing about that, either. What evolution says is that a literal reading of Genesis is not possible in the face of the physical evidence. But it has never been essential to Christian (or Jewish) belief that Genesis must be taken literally.

    So there is no “versus” between the theory of evolution and God. They are not opposed.

    There is a “versus” between reading the Bible as God’s word or man’s, but the theory of evolution says nothing about that either. It’s simply irrelevant to the question. Nobody can use the theory of evolution to argue for either one.

    Which leaves “Whose agenda are we following?” Manifestly, whatever other authorities he claims, this writer is following his own agenda. He wants religion taught in the public schools, but only his religion. That is in flat, plain defiance of the First Amendment to the Constitution – but he apparently don’t care about that. He wants the organs of the state to become agents of his religion. That is, he wants to replace secular democracy with theocracy.

    Well, be damned to him.

  3. “2. Has the national education establishment been infiltrated by some individuals who have an agenda that is not in the best interests of America?”
    I think Bill is aiming for a creationist based educational establishment. Ah, but then what is Betsy DeVos doing besides promoting private schools with taxpayer funding where they do freely discriminate and teach creationism.

  4. Our dear SC produces a grave propagandandistic lie:

    “not counting some Indian violence in colonial days”
    Rather violence against Indians, committed and justified by the spiritual forefathers of Billy (and of many other white Americans).

    “1. Is Darwinian evolution based on observed evidence or on blind faith?
    2. Has the national education establishment been infiltrated by some individuals who have an agenda that is not in the best interests of America?
    3. Are stronger locks and doors and armed guards the answer?”

    1. Observed evidence in the form of the fossils, mutations and speciation.
    2. Yes, the clown currently residing in The White House being the most prominent one (which suits me as a non-American just fine, as long as he doesn’t start a nuclear war – that risk has increased with the appointment of John Bolton, who is not a clown).
    3. To some extent (in the end we cannot do without). Disarmament also seems to help, though given Norway and Switzerland things are a bit complicated here.

    “There’s nothing even remotely that great where you live, is there, dear reader?”
    Don’t underestimate the activity of those noble Dutch creacrappers from Logos.nl. Four weeks from now there is a real creacrap congress! Theme: belief is the key to knowledge.

    https://logos.nl/evenement/tweedaags-logoscongres/#popup-maker-close-popup-12381

    With a special guest from …… Tasmania!
    The questions asked are no less thrilling.

    “VIolence in the OT, a justified atheist accusation?”
    “Whales – designed or evolved?”
    “Where did language come from? An evolutionary riddle investigated.”
    “Parasites in God’s good creation?”

    It’s held in the scenic municipality of

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardinxveld-Giessendam

    and costs only 30 Euro for two days. What’s more, it’s only ten kilometer away from Dordrecht, famous for the Real Ark of Noah!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johan%27s_Ark

    I’m sure many regulars here, including our dear SC, will immediately overhaul their plans for the holidays.
    Yeah, our own Dutch creacrappers know how to organize such events.

  5. @mnb0
    I see that Johan’s Ark has a giraffe. Every ark that I recall has a giraffe sticking its head up. But isn’t it confining and lonesome for a herd animal?

  6. The MAN written BS called the “insert your holey book o’BS”,that claims (with no evidence) to be gawd’s words of hate and bigotry teaches less love and peace than any other book of ethics than any written by people.