Discoveroids: Free Speech for Creationism

This is an old story the Discovery Institute is promoting. We’ve written about some of their earlier posts — see, for example Discoveroids Explain “Darwinist” Incivility, and also Discoveroid Language Abuse. They’re at it again with the latest post at their creationist blog: Kevin Williamson and All That: Missing the Big Story on Free Speech, written by Klinghoffer. Here are some excerpts, with bold font added by us for emphasis:

People who care about defending freedom of expression are grateful for just about any attention the issue receives from the media. That is the case even as the big story, a most egregious and longstanding abuse of power in hindering open inquiry, goes unnoticed.

The “big story,” of course, is all the “abuse” that the Discoveroids encounter when they try to promote their version of creationism at genuine universities and in pubic schools. Then he says:

NPR’s All Things Considered reports, “Professors Are Targets In Online Culture Wars; Some Fight Back.” [Link omitted.] Who are these “targets”? One is Professor George Ciccariello-Maher of Drexel University, who saw his career spoiled after he tweeted that “all I want for Christmas is white genocide,” a sentiment he later explained as being “satirical.” He ultimately chose to resign amid “unrelenting harassment and death threats.”

We’re not going to get into that mess. After two more tales like that one, Klinghoffer tells us:

No one should be harassed, threatened, or intimidated, or treated unfairly by a new (or old) employer. Yet I’m not crying too many tears for [those people]. All suffered consequences for speech that was purely obnoxious.

So what’s Klinghoffer’s point? He explains:

And it’s in remarkable contrast with the real “thought criminals” around here. I mean, literally, around here. Every day we deal with, advocate for, and seek to protect scientists and scholars who fear for their jobs and livelihoods. They are Darwin doubters and proponents of intelligent design … . And their plight goes unnoticed by the media. You can acquaint yourself with some of their stories at the website Free Science.

You already know about that website. If not, see Discoveroids Announce a New Website. Let’s read on:

The scientists whose situations are highlighted at Free Science include people whose names we can’t safely discuss in public, because they are so vulnerable to harassment and career repercussions. What is their crime? Only the very worst: seeking to objectively explore evidence of design in biology and cosmology.

Verily, it’s an outrage! Here’s more:

Free speech is a serious issue, but so is something equally precious: the answers to ultimate questions, questions that have intrigued human beings for millennia. The censored scientists at Free Science want to pursue their careers free of fear. But it’s not only their private interests that they care about. They want to know what’s true about the origins of life and of the universe, so that they can share what they find with the rest of us.

Yes, oh yes! Their crime is that they want to know The Truth. And now we come to the end:

Their thought crime is to seek the scientific truth [Hee hee!] about subjects that should matter intensely to every thoughtful adult. We are the voice in the wilderness that speaks for them. We’ll go on doing so, but having some company in the undertaking would be welcome.

The Discoveroids are suffering because of the cruelty and intolerance of Darwinists. They need your help, dear reader. Perhaps you can offer some suggestions.

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20 responses to “Discoveroids: Free Speech for Creationism

  1. Klinghoofer is confusing the constitutionally guaranteed freedom of speech with the “freedom” from being called out for spreading misinformation.

  2. docbill1351

    Of course, Klankerwanker got his knickers in a twist when he was an undergraduate at Brown by writing an obnoxious column in the school newspaper and subsequently lost his position as hall monitor or whatever. And he got bounced from the National Review by writing obnoxious columns. And we have long experienced how twisted and obnoxious Klankerwanker has been at the Disco Tute. Yet, after all this time nobody has ever suppressed Klankerwanker’s right to free speech as evidenced by his lifelong production of bile, rather he has suffered the consequences of being a disgrace to the human species.

  3. Michael Fugate

    If only the DI had anything other than intuition to back their beliefs.

  4. Oh, poor KlingerKlanger, he cries because scientists generally ignore ideas that are contradicted by all available evidence. Poor baby.

  5. There are several real cases in which people have lost their jobs at institutions promoting Young Earth Creationism.
    There is well-known case of Dembski who felt that his position was threatened because of his perceived stance on Noah’s Flood. There should be a reliable source for the story, which I don’t have an address.
    There are uncounted numbers of people who are not even considered because they do not meet belief standards, even though their work does not depend on belief.

  6. Teach the Controversy is not for religious institutions, TomS – when will you learn?!

  7. I must admit Klinkleclapper and co disappoint me a bit. An article in Dutch newspaper Trouw provides more “evidence” for IDiocy and other creacrap:

    https://www.trouw.nl/home/met-gezakte-wenkbrauwen-kon-de-mens-de-wereld-veroveren~ace9b858/

    Homo Sapiens can move his/her eyebrows, while apes cannot! So Klinkleclapper ain’t no kin of no monkey!

  8. It isn’t only to teach that it applies. It is also speak, even outside the classroom, off the campus, or anywhere. It is also think,
    insofar as the authorities can determine. And it also applies to non-teaching employees, and amusement parks.

  9. To show their commitment to free speech your local churches are inviting atheists to give the sermons. Oh wait….

  10. TomS – “There is well-known case of Dembski who felt that his position was threatened because of his perceived stance on Noah’s Flood. There should be a reliable source for the story, which I don’t have an address.”
    Here is an interview with Dembski from 2016:
    http://seanmcdowell.org/blog/how-is-the-intelligent-design-movement-doing-interview-with-william-dembski

  11. Michael Fugate

    Now that the DI has gone to bed with Westminster Theological Seminary over theistic evolution, aren’t they being a tad bit hypocritical given the ouster of Peter Enns from WTS over how to interpret the Bible?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Enns

  12. Lovely link, Hans. Especially this:

    “We continue to push the research frontiers forward on both sides.”
    Now only if they would publish, even if in their own journals. I mean, this is the entire output of 2017:

    http://bio-complexity.org/ojs/index.php/main/issue/view/31

    And here is another gem:

    “I think ID finds itself in a similar environment that democratically minded people behind the iron curtain found themselves in during the 1970s and 1980s.”
    Yeah, I always figured that Obama and The Donald were like Khrustsjev and Brezjnjev.

  13. Michael Fugate

    They are so accomplished at playing the victim -“if it weren’t for all those people opposing us our ideas, we would win”. Never ever take responsibility for your failure – always blame someone else.

  14. Hans, thanks.

    There must be some place where one can get a list of people who have lost their jobs because they did not satisfy rules about Young Earth Creationism.
    Of course, we will never knw about the people who are silently suffering.

    On the other hand, I know that some Christian Universities in the USA have faculty in theology or religious studies etc. who are not in the school’s denomination. Even faculty who are not Christians (Jewish, Muslim, and even non-theist).

  15. The next one to leave a sinking ship will be Michael Behe. He is already seen as an heretic with his acceptance of common descent.

  16. Eric Lipps

    TomS | 9-April-2018 at 12:33 pm |
    There are several real cases in which people have lost their jobs at institutions promoting Young Earth Creationism.
    There is well-known case of Dembski who felt that his position was threatened because of his perceived stance on Noah’s Flood. There should be a reliable source for the story, which I don’t have an address.

    Let’s see now: you count as a real instance of outright repression Michael Dembski, who felt that his position was threatened because of his beliefs. Did he have any evidence? Do you?

    There are uncounted numbers of people who are not even considered because they do not meet belief standards, even though their work does not depend on belief.

    How can we know, when they’re both “uncounted” and nameless?

  17. As far as Demski, I asked for reliable sources.
    As far as the uncounted and unnamed, there are the cases in which there are public statements about criteria for hiring. Those who are excluded are uncounted and unnamed.

  18. Another interview with Dembski from 2016 in which he recounts how he was pushed out of the South Western Seminary: http://thebestschools.org/features/william-dembski-interview/
    The contentious point was that he didn’t take Noah’s Flood literally. One feels almost sorry for him.

  19. hans435, I wrote about Dembski’s problem once, years ago, in Battling Baptists: Young or Old Earth?